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L.A. Chieffan 03-30-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Damn I hate the thought of losing our best defensive player since DT!
****!

My sentiments exactly

crazycoffey 03-30-2007 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
The truth probably lies somewhere in between. Allen was leaning towards being PC, while his agent is leaning towards playing hardball.

I don't particularly relish the though of losing him either. But if we're going to lose him after next season anyway, I'd rather get it over with now and get some picks.



I can agree with this,

I just want to remain optimistic that this is all the fluff of negotiations and that it's not a sign you are right......

HemiEd 03-30-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan
I'm sorry I still don't get it.
What will happen?

Pretty simple really. He has ran out of mulligans.
He is already going to get 4 games off without pay.
One more "out of bounds" and he is off for a year.

crazycoffey 03-30-2007 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Pretty simple really. He has ran out of mulligans.
He is already going to get 4 games off without pay.
One more "out of bounds" and he is off for a year.


I'm asking because I missed it, on this thread, another thread on the news, etc.....

do we know for sure the number (four games) he will miss or is it still a guess? (an educated one or not)

HemiEd 03-30-2007 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey
I'm asking because I missed it, on this thread, another thread on the news, etc.....

do we know for sure the number (four games) he will miss or is it still a guess? (an educated one or not)

I think it is pretty well set in stone. In fact, I think if you read 4th and Long's entire post, it is in there.

Stage 2 item b ;)

crazycoffey 03-30-2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
I think it is pretty well set in stone. In fact, I think if you read 4th and Long's entire post, it is in there.

Stage 2 item b ;)


I don't read much of 4th and long's posts normally, but like I said, I probably missed it in this thread.
:p


I was just curious, I was under the impression that maybe it was one of the stumbling blocks in the negotiations. therefore, how many games Allen misses would/could be a direct reflection on his contract offer. But it's only my thoughts and opinions, not anything else.

htismaqe 03-30-2007 12:42 PM

4th and Long's post was regarding the NFL substance abuse policy.

Allen, but getting CONVICTED of DUI, is also an offender under the NFL's CONDUCT policy.

In Eric Warfield's case, he wasn't enrolled in the substance abuse policy after his first offense, so he would have avoided the 4-game suspension on his 2nd offense, except that he was convicted of DUI. The NFL then got him under the conduct policy because of his conviction.

booger 03-30-2007 01:00 PM

Dang, Them coalition boys got the goods on Gwes Too.
 
Post from KCXfactor on the coalition regarding Greg Wesley.



He told me a couple weeks ago that he wouldn't be here this year that they were trading him but it was a much better deal for him. I said I hope that it isn't to a team that we have to play every year cause I don't want him getting 3 ints against us all the time and he said no you don't have to worry about that cause I'm going to a team that is really good and in the NFC. He then said that I would be seeing him though this year. So I said well that gives it away either Minnesota or the Bears and he said damn X you are good but wouldn't tell me which one. He told me that it was pretty much done they were just working out the final details and it would be done within a couple weeks. That was 2 weeks ago this coming Sunday so we should be hearing it shortly. I told him that it had been a pleaser working with him with various charities and he told me that he was going to miss me and all Chiefs fans. He said we are by far the best in the league and that the work that i do for the community symbolizes exactly what it means to being the best fans in the world period.

ct 03-30-2007 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by booger
Post from KCXfactor on the coalition regarding Greg Wesley.



He told me a couple weeks ago that he wouldn't be here this year that they were trading him but it was a much better deal for him. I said I hope that it isn't to a team that we have to play every year cause I don't want him getting 3 ints against us all the time and he said no you don't have to worry about that cause I'm going to a team that is really good and in the NFC. He then said that I would be seeing him though this year. So I said well that gives it away either Minnesota or the Bears and he said damn X you are good but wouldn't tell me which one. He told me that it was pretty much done they were just working out the final details and it would be done within a couple weeks. That was 2 weeks ago this coming Sunday so we should be hearing it shortly. I told him that it had been a pleaser working with him with various charities and he told me that he was going to miss me and all Chiefs fans. He said we are by far the best in the league and that the work that i do for the community symbolizes exactly what it means to being the best fans in the world period.

DaBears, for the 130th overall pick, in the 4th round, would good for me.

HemiEd 03-30-2007 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by booger
Post from KCXfactor on the coalition regarding Greg Wesley.



He told me a couple weeks ago that he wouldn't be here this year that they were trading him but it was a much better deal for him. I said I hope that it isn't to a team that we have to play every year cause I don't want him getting 3 ints against us all the time and he said no you don't have to worry about that cause I'm going to a team that is really good and in the NFC. He then said that I would be seeing him though this year. So I said well that gives it away either Minnesota or the Bears and he said damn X you are good but wouldn't tell me which one. He told me that it was pretty much done they were just working out the final details and it would be done within a couple weeks. That was 2 weeks ago this coming Sunday so we should be hearing it shortly. I told him that it had been a pleaser working with him with various charities and he told me that he was going to miss me and all Chiefs fans. He said we are by far the best in the league and that the work that i do for the community symbolizes exactly what it means to being the best fans in the world period.

This may be part of the "blockbuster" that Herm referred to?

booger 03-30-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by coryt
DaBears, for the 130th overall pick, in the 4th round, would good for me.

I'd say a 4th is just right, not too much to ask for.

I kinda wonder if the Bears would still be interested since they got Archaleta though?

booger 03-30-2007 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
This may be part of the "blockbuster" that Herm referred to?

When Mitch Holthus mentioned the potential blockbuster, I don't see how it wouldn't include LJ or Allen.

Green, Knight, and Wesley? I see these as more of the "might be unpopular descisions with some people" type of moves.

Natty_Light_Man 03-30-2007 01:24 PM

I think J.A. is such a key player of the Chiefs. He talks smact which excites the fans, media and teammates... So he is pain in the @$$...... So are so many other great atheletes. You have to remember, they are young and very rich. And for the record, at least in their opinion, their shit does not stink.

Natty_Light_Man 03-30-2007 01:42 PM

In case this link has not been posted. Info about all the arrests around the league...

http://www.nflcrimes.blogspot.com/

htismaqe 03-30-2007 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by booger
When Mitch Holthus mentioned the potential blockbuster, I don't see how it wouldn't include LJ or Allen.

Green, Knight, and Wesley? I see these as more of the "might be unpopular descisions with some people" type of moves.

Yeah, the "blockbuster" Holthus talked about was definitely someone of LJ or Allen's stature...


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