You finally posted something respectful (not ignorant) and worth responding too.

Yes... it's social norm to accept that blacks can call each other that word and hearing it from a white person would mean that you're racist. Stop beating the dead horse.

And please show me where there isn't rage everywhere concerning the video and comments by Jackson. His own son issued a statement condemning him. What more do you want? A protest and freedom march?

FWIW: I hate some of the marches and things that aren't justifiable.
Like I've been in numerous debates about the Sean Bell shootings with my own people.

There wouldn't have been a reason for the shooting if Sean Bell wouldn't have been in the wrong initially? At what point does the responsibility fall on him? The first officer to fire a shot was black so how in the hell can you claim racism, etc? Another one was latino or whatever. Also Bell had some gun charges before and his friends did too.

At what point do you stop defending ignorance and take responsibility and let bygones be bygones?

I'm with you guys on a lot of your issues but AA is needed.

I never said you wanted a hand out as I do not know you. The only thing I brought up was the 95% statement and the it is a black thing. As far as me and you meeting you are nails on. I throw darts at a local bar and there is a guy that hangs out and plays pool there and for a long time we never spoke. He wears hip hop style clothing (I guess that is the term) well you can most likely guess I dont dress like that. One time he was playing the juke box and it was rap music, I walked up and smiled and told him sorry man but I am going to redneck it up a bit. He laughed and said thats cool.

Later I was over playing darts and the waitress brought me a beer I did not order. I asked her why and she said Tyrone bought it for you, I asked who that was and she pointed to the hip hop guy. I walked over and thanked him and ordered him one we struck up a conversation. We talked about several things and the topic of race came up.

I told him there was a time I would have sent the beer back. He looked at me and asked why, I told him when in school we used to have riots all the time and it was white on black. I told him for a long time I hated blacks. I also said it took me a long time to put that silly shit behind me. He laughed and told me how he had grown up feeling the same way about whites. He paused and looked at me and said I was the first white guy that had ever been that honest about racism to him.

We have become pretty good friends and if he was in a scrape I would back him in a heartbeat as I am sure he would me. Yes I think most people have some level of racism and am pretty sure always will. That said as a white guy it gets a little old feeling I have to walk on egg shells and be real careful what I say or I might offend someone because of things I had nothing to do with.

It just wears on me to read crap like the thread topic and it just seems to happen so often. I believe in my heart at this point in time everyone has a chance to do well if they make good choices and work hard. I think it is time to get over it and move on and that can be a easy as buying a stranger a beer.

Blacks demean each other constantly but its a black thing only.

Now look who the ignorant one is.

Trust me. We feel the exact same way.
Why can't we all just get alone? :thumb:

From the blog:

LMAO

Well, here's where I have to draw the line.

Initially, I thought that you were implying that it's extremely difficult for non-whites to rise to the level of CEO, CFO, COB, etc. of huge multi-national corporations (that, being the "Good Ol' Boy" network). To that, I would agree (though I've stated that's true for almost anyone, regardless of race).

But if you're lowering the bar to include upper management and director level, we couldn't be in further disagreement. I know PLENTY of non-whites that are in upper management - too many to count. Countless. Hell, everyone of my wife's college friends (Chinese, Korean, Black, White, Hispanic) ALL make over $250k per year, regardless of skin color. Now granted, these are people who had extremely high grade point averages, one of the girls got her Master's from London School of Business and they live in Los Angeles, Phoenix and/or San Francisco.

If you're encountering a "glass ceiling", I think it's probably due more to the conservative nature of the area in which you live because I can assure that those types of hiring practices (the exclusion of non-whites in management positions) do not occur in the West Coast or Northeast business centers.

There's a video too:

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Williams Aide Resigns in Language Dispute

By Yolanda Woodlee
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 27, 1999; Page B1

The director of D.C. Mayor Anthony A. Williams's constituent services office resigned after being accused of using a racial slur, the mayor's office said yesterday.

David Howard, head of the Office of Public Advocate, said he used the word "*****rdly" in a Jan. 15 conversation about funding with two employees.

"I used the word '*****rdly' in reference to my administration of a fund," Howard said in a written statement yesterday. "Although the word, which is defined as miserly, does not have any racial connotations, I realize that staff members present were offended by the word.

"I immediately apologized," Howard said. " . . . I would never think of making a racist remark. I regret that the word I did use offended anyone."

When Howard, who is white, noticed the reaction to his use of the word, he apologized to his three-member staff, which is made up of two blacks and another white. It is unclear which two employees he was addressing when he used the word.

Soon after the remark was uttered, the rumor mill started churning that Howard had used the word "******."

Howard said he has received numerous telephone calls since Jan. 15 from people in the community who had heard "I had made a racist remark . . . [which is] in fact unquotable here."

The Barnhard Dictionary of Etymology traces the origins of "*****rdly" to the 1300s and the words nig and nigon, meaning miser, in Middle English. It also notes possible earlier origins in languages including Old Icelandic, Old English and Middle High German. There is no mention of any racial connotation.

Howard said the rumor that he had used a racial slur "has severely compromised my effectiveness as the District's Public Advocate and in the best interest of my office, I resigned," effective Monday.

Howard is the second mayoral appointee in two weeks to quit, and his resignation comes at a time when Williams's administration is being bombarded with questions regarding race relations -- his "loyalty" to his race as well as the diversity of his staff. Williams (D) is black; Howard was one of four white men Williams appointed on the first official business day of his administration.

Five days after Williams named the senior policy advisers, a group of residents from east of the Anacostia River -- many of whom had been part of the Draft Williams Committee -- complained that the mayor had "missed a unique opportunity" to name someone who lives in Southeast Washington to his personal staff. And they questioned whether Williams would be responsive to the predominantly black and working-class communities of the city.

The issue of race continued to dog the mayor the next week, when a D.C. resident wrote an opinion piece in the Jan. 17 Washington Post questioning whether Williams is "black enough."

Williams said that he was "confused" by the opinion piece and that he had a track record of helping minorities. Williams said he recognized during his campaign that race was creating a "great divide in the city." He said his campaign was a diverse coalition that represented people across the District.

"While I'm troubled by recent news stories concerning race -- questions about whether I'm black enough or have too many advisers who are not -- I understand that they reflect a great hurt within our city," Williams said in a written statement last night. "I am committed to representing all of the people of our city and making sure my administration truly reflects the city's diversity.

"I am particularly sensitive to the need to include people that have felt excluded from the political process and governance of the city, such as residents east of the Anacostia River.

"One thing I've learned, we will never relieve the pain or heal a hurt if we refuse to talk about the cause," Williams said. "We need to get issues around race relations out in the open."

Williams said yesterday that he accepted Howard's resignation after reports that Howard had made an "inappropriate racial comment."

Howard's resignation follows that of scheduler James Day, who left after a salary dispute.

Howard served as the volunteer coordinator and office manager during Williams's mayoral campaign, overseeing 1,600 volunteers. When Howard was appointed to head the office that responds to residents' complaints about services such as trash pickup, welfare benefits and police protection, the mayor's office put out a brief biography that said Howard was "often referred to as the 'glue' that bonded everyone together." He was to be paid $58,148 a year.

According to the biography, Howard graduated from the University of Florida with a degree in economics and has managed several top restaurants in the city.

© Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company

that is supposed to say n-i-g-g-a-r-d-l-y

I'll stop on this page--don't need to read further, because the usual suspects have shown up, and given the usual responses. I totally agree with you wut. At one time I believed otherwise and had a long conversation with a black friend about this subject. We both worked for the same company, but he challenged me that this Company, this branch based in good-ole-boy Columbia SC, would've EVER hired a black for sales, had it not been for AA ( and this guy was good). Add the impetus given by the progressive Sara Lee Corp who had purchased this Regional Distributor, and things were starting to change, but it took a catalyst. I know it hasn't been a perfect solution, but the way you must hear it portrayed by many Cracks, must really be an azz-chapper.

Hey wutamess,
Here is one of your "I have a black friend" droppers. What do you think?

right on cue.

Do you have a point n00b? Who are you?

I'm so sick of race that I wish I were transparent.

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:LOL:

The guy should have said ' Yea, I'm sorry............sorry your parents didn't have any children with common sense".


What a fugging joke. My money says the offended individual is trying to Sharpton his way to the top.