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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5415696)

How the **** can you be a great leader when your team doesn't win games? The only leading that is, is leading them to the slaughter. Herm is a putz and his head coaching skills are awful. Good riddance to him and all his excuse-making supporters.

No excuses, just passionate about the game I love.:D

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 5415712)

SCHEFTER: SHANAHAN WON’T LAND IN KANSAS CITY
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2009, 12:25 p.m.
In response to rapidly-spreading rumors (we might have had something to do with that) regarding the possibility of a former Broncos and Raiders coach landing with their common rivals in Kansas City, Adam Schefter of NFLN says that there’s no truth whatsoever to the reports/rumors/rumblings/scuttlebutt that Mike Shanahan will be the next coach of the Chiefs.

Per Schefter, the Chiefs and Shanahan have had no contact as of mid-day Thursday.

Of course, it doesn’t mean that there won’t be contact if/when Herm Edwards is fired. We assume that the Chiefs are spending more time deciding whether to keep Herm than they are lining up his potential replacement.

Especially in light of the Rooney Rule.

Unless Shanahan’s spray tan falls within the scope of the Soul Man exception, he can’t be hired until after Edwards is fired and at least one minority candidate is interviewed.

Source http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

Makes more sense. Where there's smoke there may be fire, but I don't expect any replacement to be named until probably right before or right after the Super Bowl.

Let's just get rid of Herm first...

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415679)

Tony G. came out in support for Herm in a big way and from what I understand about Tony is that he tells it like it truly is. Herm has the full support of his players and to me that's all that matters.

I've been trying to explain this to the board in recent weeks.

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415718)

No excuses, just passionate about the game I love.:D

That's not passion, that's reerunation. Supporting a man who has SIX wins out of 32 games in the past two seasons is like supporting Charles Manson to run a daycare. He's not a good coach and I could give a **** if the players like the coach-it isn't up to them. I want WINS and Herm has a grand TOTAL of 15 wins as the Head Coach of the Chiefs. That's an average of 5 wins per season and you want him back? Sorry, but anybody that supports a losing record doesn't have the Chiefs best interest in mind, yourself included.

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 5415712)

Yeah because Schefter has been right SOOOOOOOO many times before. This ****er has no clue what's going on.

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5415719)

Makes more sense. Where there's smoke there may be fire, but I don't expect any replacement to be named until probably right before or right after the Super Bowl.

Let's just get rid of Herm first...

There was a post that quoted Mort on saying that we'll know by Friday. Tomorrow will be a day of little work my friends.

Here it is officially from Schefter:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/22/chie...cted-shanahan/

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Nearly a month after the season, the Chiefs still have not made a coaching change. Mike Shanahan still does not have a job.

Thus, in the past 24 hours, like a virus that has spread, some have concluded that Kansas City is pursuing Shanahan and he could be the Chiefs next head coach.

Time to squash that rumor. As of mid-day Thursday, the Chiefs and Shanahan have not had any contact. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

And yet within the past hour, I’ve gotten a half-dozen calls and emails from various Kansas City and Denver media outlets, asking if there is any truth to the rumor that the Chiefs and Shanahan are talking.

No, there is not. There is no truth to the rumor. Chiefs officials are at the Senior Bowl and Shanahan just finished a morning run on the treadmill.

The Chiefs coaching mystery continues — minus Shanahan.

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415679)

If memory serves me right, Chad Pennington was a young impressionable QB when he took over the Jets and the best trait Herm has is that he is a great leader, the man has a niche for leading young and old. That's why he gets the label of a players coach. Name me one team that lost badly last year where the players were all in favor of their coach returning. One thing struck me by surprise when Tony G. came out in support for Herm in a big way and from what I understand about Tony is that he tells it like it truly is. Herm has the full support of his players and to me that's all that matters.

I think it was said that Col. Custard was a soldiers man, he and Herm have had similar results. It is a great thing that the players love the coach, but it is another if the coach cannot turn that respect into wins.

I do not think I have ever heard the words muttered, "Belichick is a players coach", or "Parcells is a players coach," yet their players love them. The ones that don't are typically the 'me-first' type of guys, the ones that aren't tolerated by either of them, and thus they are ignored in the lockeroom as well as on the field until they can be traded or cut.

I don't want a bumbeling nice guy as a HC. It may sound cheesy, but football and war are similar in their power structure. You wouldn't want a slow to react/evolve, but lovable general to lead your military into battle, so why would you want something similar as a head coach. Herm is a Col. Custard type of guy (Custard probably had more dickheadedness and self assurance than Herm, though arguable), not a Patton type of guy.

More than coaches, and sometimes more than money, players love to win. If you win, the players will respect the coach that is leading them to those wins. These young guys know nothing but losing as KC Chiefs. I all but guarantee that the KC players will love/respect any coach that comes in here and gets them on the winning track.

I want a Patton, a Bellichick/Parcells type. I will leave you with possibly one of the greatest quotes in human histroy:

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The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.

-Gen. G.S. Patton

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5415720)

I've been trying to explain this to the board in recent weeks.

Herm doesn't need to have the full support of his players though. He needs to have the full support of Holy Pioli.

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 5415744)

I'd say the Chiefs past two seasons are very similar to the Battle of Little Bighorn. Unsuccessful.

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5415741)

Here it is officially from Schefter:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/22/chie...cted-shanahan/

Well, he's definitely put his ass out there. He's gonna look really bad if the Rat suddenly gets hired, although I guess he could cover himself by saying "It all came together AFTER I posted that ..."

Pretty definitive, though. Do we believe Schefter with his Denver connection, or Garcia Bronco with his alleged Kyle Shanahan encounter?

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5415741)

Here it is officially from Schefter:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/22/chie...cted-shanahan/

Because Pioli is going to let Schefter or anyone else know what he is doing. Just like some of the current coaches have stated they have been told they would be fired if they leaked anything maybe Pioli told the Rat that if he leaked anything the deal was off.

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5415734)

I havn't read you saying one fact other than blowing your mouth about how this sucks and that sucks, come with some facts other than a win/loss record for a coach who was under the reign of King Carl.

Yeah your right, nobody wants a coach the players playing the game have total respect for and will do anything to win for him and the fans. Please remember just how young of a group we truly have, I'm telling you nobody went into this season (maybe you) thinking we were even going to get close to competing and now everbody wants to act suprised and blow it up again!