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bdeg 03-01-2009 05:53 PM

That's the problem. He has no practice at the most difficult aspect of the position, whereas guys like Everette Brown have been battling left tackles for years and have developed those skills.

tk13 03-01-2009 05:56 PM

I don't disagree that he's a bit raw in that regard. But he's strong, fast, physical, smart, produced in college, and considered a fairly intelligent guy that will be a good leader. Sounds exactly like a Patriots LB to me.

Mr. Krab 03-01-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5544479)
That's the problem. He has no practice at the most difficult aspect of the position, whereas guys like Everette Brown have been battling left tackles for years and have developed those skills.

It's true, but if Curry doesn't become a legit pass rusher he is still by all accounts going to be a very good traditional linebacker. That means he will be taken too high in the draft but not a total loss.

Moderate risk, Very high reward

bdeg 03-01-2009 05:57 PM

Oh ya, he's a perfect Patriots ILB. But the pats would never spend the #3 on an ilb.

HC_Chief 03-01-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5544479)
That's the problem. He has no practice at the most difficult aspect of the position, whereas guys like Everette Brown have been battling left tackles for years and have developed those skills.

Yes, but we would definitely need to trade down if we were considering him. At #3 he would be a HUGE reach.

tk13 03-01-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5544502)
Oh ya, he's a perfect Patriots ILB. But the pats would never spend the #3 on an ilb.

I know. But your other option is taking a DT which is also a risky proposition in the top 5, or taking a safer pick on the offensive line, which will cause half the board's brain to explode.

I guess my point is picking a top 5 DT is just about like picking a LB. You don't see it a lot. A lot of good DT's are taken in the 5-15 range, just like rush LB's.

bdeg 03-01-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 5544512)
Yes, but we would definitely need to trade down if we were considering him. At #3 he would be a HUGE reach.

Debatable. You woulda said the same thing last year with the pats taking Mayo at 10, no? He was considered a lower-mid 1st.

bdeg 03-01-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 5544519)
I know. But your other option is taking a DT which is also a risky proposition in the top 5, or taking a safer pick on the offensive line, which will cause half the board's brain to explode.

I guess my point is picking a top 5 DT is just about like picking a LB. You don't see it a lot. A lot of good DT's are taken in the 5-15 range, just like rush LB's.

OL is out of the question

Outside of QB, I don't really see any other positions more worthy of being taken in the top 5 than those 2.

LT, DT/NT, pass rusher are my top positions besides QB. Probably CB, WR next.

Mr. Krab 03-01-2009 06:07 PM

Pretty much our choices as they sit now.

Eugene Monroe
B.J. Raji
Aarron Curry
Trade down

tk13 03-01-2009 06:09 PM

I think trading down probably makes the most sense, but we do have to be prepared if that doesn't happen. I wouldn't take a lesser deal just to move down. And a lot of people say we can't take a LB at 3, that's too high. They are probably right. So we should take a DT. Which makes no sense cause that's the same thing. DT's go in the top 5 slightly more often, and most of them have bombed. The last decade of top 5 DT's include guys like Dorsey, Dewayne Robertson, Gerard Warren, Darrell Russell, Dan Wilkinson? Guys like that. That's no better than the group of LB's in the top 5. You have more success with those guys in the 5-15 range... that's where you find guys like Sapp, Henderson, Stroud, Merriman, Ware, etc. Vince Wilfork was taken in the 20's.

bdeg 03-01-2009 06:12 PM

I don't know think you can go by that... You just have to trust your scouting department to get the best guy in the class, ya know?

Yes I agree trading down is the best option, but you can't count on that. I don't think anyone i going to want the pick. If it happens great, if not it's either Raji or Brown. Neither one is perfect at this spot, we'll see what happens.

bdeg 03-01-2009 06:13 PM

And if all the best players are picked in the 10-15 range WHY would you not want to reach for Brown who is rated by many to be in that range?

HC_Chief 03-01-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5544557)
And if all the best players are picked in the 10-15 range WHY would you not want to reach for Brown who is rated by many to be in that range?

Orakpo would be the choice at #3.

And oh, the waiiilllllinngggggg......

bdeg 03-01-2009 06:18 PM

He is terrible. Compare the tapes. Orakpo runs through shitty blocks, Everette Brown sheds them with authority.

Cornstock 03-01-2009 06:18 PM

Draft the Tree of Crabs or the Roe of Mun


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