HOLY SHIT!LMAOLMAO

Let me ask you this - who would you rather have as your RB, if you could draft either one to an expansion team - Barry Sanders or Emmitt Smith?

You'd think that.

I'm done.

its still apples and oranges IMO - Roth has only been playing for, what, 4 years? All the other QBs have had an entire career of ups and down to judge by.

And Roth is being judged PURELY on the rings, nothing else. "He has rings", "He led them on that one drive in the SB". (Nevermind the dominant team that carried him into that position)

Hey, I put Kurt Warner in the category of "surrounded by talent, nothing special", before he did what he did in Arizona last year.

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If that doesn't explain what a ****ing reerun you are, nothing will.

The guy was only a SBMVP before getting to Arizona...

So anyone could have done it? Roethlisberger was carried?

Smoke more crack

Emmitt Smith, hands down.

So Rothlisberger (sp?) wins 15 games as a rookie and Thigpen wins 1. Yet Rothlisberger sucks and Thigpen is good?

He's a Beaker; it's all about the "Honk For Hemp" with those ****ing hippies.

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Welcome to Chiefs Nation!

Dude, you're exaggerating. Few people on CP that I've seen of say he's a "can't miss veteran." Most people like him and like his potential, but know that he's got a lot to prove. But is he further along in his progression than Sanchez? How can you claim otherwise? You know he has everything between the ears and that's a huge advantage over a guy like Sanchez or Stafford, who you have no idea what to expect. Who knows if they'll have the work ethic to get better when you throw gobs of money and publicity in their direction.

No, the point is that if you can't see that Super Bowls are generally run with balanced teams, then there is something wrong with you. I think Big Ben is one of the best QBs in the NFL. But there is NO WAY he could carry the 2003 Chiefs to the Super Bowl. How many playoff games could Big Ben win where the defense doesn't force A SINGLE PUNT?

Big Ben has had a top 5 defense almost every year he's played. That includes a top 5 defense in scoring as well as forcing turnovers. How can you be so blind to realize that a top 5 defense makes a QB's job 100 times easier?

To answer your question, of course I'd rather have a 3,000 yard passer because that implies that you have a dominant defense that allows you to win games. But stop pretending that Big Ben can win on a 3,000 yard season on a bottom 5 defense. For christ sake, his defense gave up 13.9 points per game. That's 2 TDs less per game than the Chiefs gave up. Do you realize that in 2003, there wasn't one single game where the Chiefs scored less than 13.9 points?

"I'm Chiefzilla, and I want assurances".


I know exactly what to expect:

Cassel will look epic this year compared to so many floundering Chiefs QB's-past, while Sanchez looks less polished and struggles.

Here's the bummer; Sanchez matches or surpasses Cassel's numbers while appearing to struggle. You see, Cassel's going to have to hop and skip down to the end zone while Sanchez, when faced with 3rd down conversions of the long nature, is going to do EXACTLY the kind of shit you saw with the 50-yard bomb and the precisely placed long-yarder to Washington against the Ravens.

Oh, other bummer:

Two years from now when Cassel is still hopping and skipping, Sanchez has polished his long game to a science while making those short passes in tight coverage look like child's play.

Question asked, question answered. On with the show.

Here's another scenario. As most scouts predicted, Sanchez was underprepared for the NFL. Like most first-year rookie QBs thrown immediately into the starting position, he struggles as he learns to read complex blitz packages (which he has not yet seen in the preseason).

After the third game, the boo birds come out. And in New York, it's not just the fans, it's the media, the national TV coverage, everything. His face is plastered on every NY newspaper and he's surrounded by cameras that insult him for not being a star right away. How do you respond to that? In Leaf's case, you get angry and you stop listening to your coaches. In Harrington's case, your confidence gets rattled and you never recover. Or in Matt Leinart's case, you start living off your unearned money and don't commit to the game as you should. Or in Jamarcus Russel's case, you learn that the work ethic was never there. Or in Leftwich and Alex Smith's case, you learn that their skills don't translate on the NFL level.

These are things that New York will learn in a hurry about their QB.