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Hammock Parties 10-26-2009 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6210864)
I think your opinion is incorrect but time will tell who's right and who's wrong.

I see more Elvis Grbac in this guy than Joe Montana.

Elvis was never this bad.

His problem always seemed to be a brain fart at the wrong time + shitty attitude/asshole tendencies.

The weird thing about Cassel is he has all the "intangibles" and I think he's a really smart guy.

He just...blows it.

DaneMcCloud 10-26-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6211027)
Elvis was never this bad.

His problem always seemed to be a brain fart at the wrong time + shitty attitude/asshole tendencies.

The weird thing about Cassel is he has all the "intangibles" and I think he's a really smart guy.

He just...blows it.

Wow, a new perspective.

I'm speechless.

Hammock Parties 10-26-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6211035)
Wow, a new perspective.

I'm speechless.

If anyone can change their opinion it's me.

I like Cassel but he needs to improve a lot over the last 9 games.

I call it like I see it and Sunday that might as well have been Thigpen.

BossChief 10-26-2009 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6211038)
If anyone can change their opinion it's me.

I like Cassel but he needs to improve a lot over the last 9 games.

I call it like I see it and Sunday that might as well have been Thigpen.

Im glad you are starting to look at the situation OBJECTIVELY.

No, Thigpen would be forcing defenses to respect his ability to run the ball himself.

Cassel is a taller, slower version of Thigpen that takes a sack instead of gaining positive yards.

If Cassel would just take off running when protection breaks down, teams would respect that and keep a couple defenders back to defend it, sadly enough though, he just goes in his "fetal position drills".

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-27-2009 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6210893)
You're wrong.

But that's nothing new.

It's "give Thiggy a line, and SUPERBOWL ELEVENTY BILLION!!!!11111" all over again, and it's ****ing disgusting.

I honestly hate half of the fan base of this team, I really ****ing do.

chiefzilla1501 10-27-2009 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6211050)
Im glad you are starting to look at the situation OBJECTIVELY.

No, Thigpen would be forcing defenses to respect his ability to run the ball himself.

Cassel is a taller, slower version of Thigpen that takes a sack instead of gaining positive yards.

If Cassel would just take off running when protection breaks down, teams would respect that and keep a couple defenders back to defend it, sadly enough though, he just goes in his "fetal position drills".

I don't know how you can even compare the two. Thigpen operated in an extremely QB friendly, gimmick spread and he had the ultimate safety valve in Tony Gonzalez. I liked Thigpen, but the situations aren't even remotely similar.

chiefzilla1501 10-27-2009 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6211038)
If anyone can change their opinion it's me.

I like Cassel but he needs to improve a lot over the last 9 games.

I call it like I see it and Sunday that might as well have been Thigpen.

I agree with you there. Last Sunday was the first game where the accuracy issue really became an issue for me.

He has to improve. But until he gets consistently decent protection, it's still tough to make that call. Albert also needs to improve. And Haley has to get a clue and keep Wade Smith at Center and get Goff the **** out of the RG position. Frankly, if today he went with Albert-Waters-Smith-Alleman-O'Callaghan (or with Ndukwe replacing Alleman), I think within a few games, while that offensive line would suck, it would be good enough that we can start to fairly evaluate Cassel's ability.

BossChief 10-27-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6211225)
I agree with you there. Last Sunday was the first game where the accuracy issue really became an issue for me.

He has to improve. But until he gets consistently decent protection, it's still tough to make that call. Albert also needs to improve. And Haley has to get a clue and keep Wade Smith at Center and get Goff the **** out of the RG position. Frankly, if today he went with Albert-Waters-Smith-Alleman-O'Callaghan (or with Ndukwe replacing Alleman), I think within a few games, while that offensive line would suck, it would be good enough that we can start to fairly evaluate Cassel's ability.

I've got a question for you.

Do you remember when Bledsoe was the Dallas qb and how the line was getting crucified? Romo came in and all of a sudden the line wasnt a problem anymore because of his release and his ability to shake the pressure.

Bledsoe took 49 sacks in his last full season...Romo cut that figure more than in half in his first year starting.

If a qb doesnt get the ball out and have a quick release, defenses prey on it

I really hate to say it, but Cassel is playing like Bledsoe back then

Frankie 10-27-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6210595)
Please. On Bowe's TD pass he moved his head all the way from the right side of the field back to Bowe on the left sideline.

So you are saying the one time he had enough time to look the D off, he tossed a TD pass. Thanks for strengthening my point GoChiefs.

Frankie 10-27-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6211222)
I don't know how you can even compare the two. Thigpen operated in an extremely QB friendly, gimmick spread and he had the ultimate safety valve in Tony Gonzalez. I liked Thigpen, but the situations aren't even remotely similar.

Bingo.

BossChief 10-27-2009 08:45 AM

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Brock 10-27-2009 08:48 AM

His downfield accuracy reminds me of Thigpen for sure.

BossChief 10-27-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6211442)
His downfield accuracy reminds me of Thigpen for sure.

Ive never seen a QB overthrow any pass over 15 yards so consistently in the nfl. That includes Thigpen.

Chiefnj2 10-27-2009 09:05 AM

Horrible OL, no running game to take the pressure off, revolving door of starting receivers every week, no to to receiver/safety valve, no QB coach. I can't imagine why he isn't putting up better numbers.

MahiMike 10-27-2009 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6211330)
I've got a question for you.

Do you remember when Bledsoe was the Dallas qb and how the line was getting crucified? Romo came in and all of a sudden the line wasnt a problem anymore because of his release and his ability to shake the pressure.

Bledsoe took 49 sacks in his last full season...Romo cut that figure more than in half in his first year starting.

If a qb doesnt get the ball out and have a quick release, defenses prey on it

I really hate to say it, but Cassel is playing like Bledsoe back then

I agree with this and said something similar. Right now the combination of a pocket passer and weak OL isn't working. But I'm sure Haley and Pioli realize this and are working towards next year while getting Cassel more practice. Who really cares about 2009 anyway?


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