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the Talking Can 02-03-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6502816)
Ad RB2 to that list, and maybe TE.

i added RB in my edit, and you're right about TE, i just forgot...that would make 15

Nightfyre 02-03-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6502826)
Oh contraire mon frere. Okung would upgrade the LT spot and the LG spot, thus allowing us to utilize that extra pick that we saved on a guard to be a center. (Pouncey with 2a would be entirely acceptable, though Tennant in round three/four would also be dandy.) At that point, we could turn our attention to the RT spot in the end of round 2, beginning of round 3. In a single draft, our entire offensive line would be substantially upgraded and allow us to utilize our fourth and fifth round picks (four in all) to pick up two safeties and two new linebackers - perhaps Rolle and Johnson as the safeties and AJ Edds and Micah Johnson. It's a win-win for everyone. I don't see how you could possibly complain about that. Look at it again:

1. Russell Okung
2. Maurkice Pouncey
2. Mike Johnson
3. Kyle Calloway
4. Koa Misi
5. Micah Johnson
5. Robert Johnson
5. Myron Rolle

Absolute ****ing gold of a draft.

He went full reerun while quoting mel brooks. How sinful. I don't see how drafting three olineman makes it a gold draft. Fact is, you have three people acclimating to the nfl and one person learning a new position while not upgrading his old position.
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BossChief 02-03-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6502826)
Oh contraire mon frere. Okung would upgrade the LT spot and the LG spot, thus allowing us to utilize that extra pick that we saved on a guard to be a center. (Pouncey with 2a would be entirely acceptable, though Tennant in round three/four would also be dandy.) At that point, we could turn our attention to the RT spot in the end of round 2, beginning of round 3. In a single draft, our entire offensive line would be substantially upgraded and allow us to utilize our fourth and fifth round picks (four in all) to pick up two safeties and two new linebackers - perhaps Rolle and Johnson as the safeties and AJ Edds and Micah Johnson. It's a win-win for everyone. I don't see how you could possibly complain about that. Look at it again:

1. Russell Okung
2. Maurkice Pouncey
2. Mike Johnson
3. Kyle Calloway
4. Koa Misi
5. Micah Johnson
5. Robert Johnson
5. Myron Rolle

Absolute ****ing gold of a draft.

"This post makes the baby jesus weep"

This is one of the times I wish ROR was still here, he would have a field day with this thread and it would be fun to watch.

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 6502870)
He went full reerun while quoting mel brooks. How sinful. I don't see how drafting three olineman makes it a gold draft. Fact is, you have three people acclimating to the nfl and one person learning a new position while not upgrading his old position.
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Four linemen. We are completely revitalizing and upgrading the single worst position as a group in this theoretical draft. At the same time, we are upgrading and improving our linebacking corps and safeties. I don't see how there can be a single complaint with this proposed draft by anyone. Everybody gets what they want, and the Chiefs get immensely better immediately. We get our WR in 2011. We get the best LT, G, C and one of the best RT prospects, along with a quality pass rusher and big thumper in the middle, and two new, athletic, fundamentally sound safeties.

I think it's absolutely brilliant.

Mecca 02-03-2010 05:35 PM

I'm still enjoying this thread because I think the Chiefs will have Charles Brown as their top OT.

Nightfyre 02-03-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6502937)
Four linemen. We are completely revitalizing and upgrading the single worst position as a group in this theoretical draft. At the same time, we are upgrading and improving our linebacking corps and safeties. I don't see how there can be a single complaint with this proposed draft by anyone. Everybody gets what they want, and the Chiefs get immensely better immediately. We get our WR in 2011. We get the best LT, G, C and one of the best RT prospects, along with a quality pass rusher and big thumper in the middle, and two new, athletic, fundamentally sound safeties.

I think it's absolutely brilliant.

How dense can one person be? Do you have uranium for a skull?
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Mecca 02-03-2010 05:37 PM

Also Kyle Calloway will be lucky to go in the 3rd at this point.

Nightfyre 02-03-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6502954)
I'm still enjoying this thread because I think the Chiefs will have Charles Brown as their top OT.

I have to think they are pleased with alberts improvement, versatility, and maleability. If they take brown, it will be for depth and they can't reach for depth, imo.
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Mecca 02-03-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 6502973)
I have to think they are pleased with alberts improvement, versatility, and maleability. If they take brown, it will be for depth and they can't reach for depth, imo.
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I'm not putting anything past these guys, they've already shown they really could careless about the players they inherited.

Coogs 02-03-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6502937)
Everybody gets what they want



:shake:

The Franchise 02-03-2010 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6502826)
Oh contraire mon frere. Okung would upgrade the LT spot and the LG spot, thus allowing us to utilize that extra pick that we saved on a guard to be a center. (Pouncey with 2a would be entirely acceptable, though Tennant in round three/four would also be dandy.) At that point, we could turn our attention to the RT spot in the end of round 2, beginning of round 3. In a single draft, our entire offensive line would be substantially upgraded and allow us to utilize our fourth and fifth round picks (four in all) to pick up two safeties and two new linebackers - perhaps Rolle and Johnson as the safeties and AJ Edds and Micah Johnson. It's a win-win for everyone. I don't see how you could possibly complain about that. Look at it again:

1. Russell Okung
2. Maurkice Pouncey
2. Mike Johnson
3. Kyle Calloway
4. Koa Misi
5. Micah Johnson
5. Robert Johnson
5. Myron Rolle

Absolute ****ing gold of a draft.

Holy ****.

:shake:

Nightfyre 02-03-2010 05:49 PM

I think the biggest problem with our oline is cassel. He got put on his back more than 40 times behind the pats oline. Meanwhile, charles was the best back in the league for half a season. Hmmm.
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ToxSocks 02-03-2010 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6502826)
Oh contraire mon frere. Okung would upgrade the LT spot and the LG spot, thus allowing us to utilize that extra pick that we saved on a guard to be a center. (Pouncey with 2a would be entirely acceptable, though Tennant in round three/four would also be dandy.) At that point, we could turn our attention to the RT spot in the end of round 2, beginning of round 3. In a single draft, our entire offensive line would be substantially upgraded and allow us to utilize our fourth and fifth round picks (four in all) to pick up two safeties and two new linebackers - perhaps Rolle and Johnson as the safeties and AJ Edds and Micah Johnson. It's a win-win for everyone. I don't see how you could possibly complain about that. Look at it again:

1. Russell Okung
2. Maurkice Pouncey
2. Mike Johnson
3. Kyle Calloway
4. Koa Misi
5. Micah Johnson
5. Robert Johnson
5. Myron Rolle

Absolute ****ing gold of a draft.

Eeewwwww. That's not good, dude. At all. The O-line play improved sooooo much by the end of the year. Albert is not the problem. Cassel is. The lack of playmakers is also the problem.

Even when Cassel had time to throw the ball he still couldn't find a target. A better QB will make that line look ass-loads better. Just look at what JC did for the o-line.

I want Clausen. But that won't happen. So fix the D. Gimme Berry of McClain in the 1st. Another playmaker at 2a, and a Center in 2b.

ToxSocks 02-03-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 6502999)
I think the biggest problem with our oline is cassel. He got put on his back more than 40 times behind the pats oline. Meanwhile, charles was the best back in the league for half a season. Hmmm.
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This. Cassel Sucks. Hopefully Wies drafts his boy and starts him right away.

Clausen may be a rook, but at least he can hit a wide open target.....

keg in kc 02-03-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 6502999)
I think the biggest problem with our oline is cassel. He got put on his back more than 40 times behind the pats oline. Meanwhile, charles was the best back in the league for half a season. Hmmm.
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I would say that's debatable. He was only sacked 15 times in the last 8 games, as opposed to 27 in the first 7. And he was dropping back a bit per game more the second half of the year than the first. I'd say a lot of factors played into the first half of the year, ranging from problems with the blocking scheme, installing a new offensive system, total lack of a running game, and so on.

I would also go on to say that while the line did improve to a degree, it was not as drastic as Charles' performance would seem to indicate. Because much of the time he was making yards on his own (in a way I don't think anybody expected him to, at his size; he showed an amazing capacity for running through contact). In the passing game, even in the second half of the year, the "protection" was often a turnstile, especially in the middle. The play of the center and guards was not very good a lot of the time.

Which is separate from the fact that Cassel was making mistakes on his own late in the year, even on the occasions when the blocking was there...


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