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BossChief 03-16-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6608978)
Weigmann will be 37 when the season starts.

:shake:

Reports, eh? So, a two-time Pro Bowl guard that's only 28 years old is available, yet the only teams interested were a 4-12 team, a 5-11 team and the Texans?

Wow, how did his agent stand all that heat?

a 40 year old Weigman is better than a Niswanger at any age IMHO.

Its no doubt that he has had serious knee issues in the past, I just have hope that he will continue to be healthy enough to contribute like he did in starting 19 games last year (yeah, that means the whole year including the superbowl)

Lilja never made a probowl.

Titty Meat 03-16-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6609071)
Wasn't pretty much 90%+ of the FA class of '10 over 30? Just a question.

With you, the Chiefs can't win. Ever.

Best RB in FA. check
Best G in FA. check
Best C in FA. check
Dane's approval. useless

LOL you're ****ing clueless.

SAUTO 03-16-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609144)
LOL you're ****ing clueless.

what about his post do you disagree with?
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Chiefaholic 03-16-2010 06:02 PM

Then, Mike Chappell at the Indy Star got this quote from Lilja's agent:

"[The Colts] said they want to go bigger, and they let him go,’’ Domann said. "Ryan was disappointed, but I know he’ll land on his feet.’’

Titty Meat 03-16-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6609153)
what about his post do you disagree with?
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If those guys were the best at those position they would have been signed or had offers from teams. I posted the stats Weigmann was worse than Niswanger in pass protection. So saying he's an upgrade isn't true.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6609074)
you can't prove otherwise either. Either of you. You are speculating. Your speculation is no more fact than mine.
You can't PROVE no other teams were interested.

Are you really this obtuse?

If Thomas Jones had been offered a contract by a winning football organization, he'd have taken it.

The problem for TJ is that there is rarely, if ever, an opportunity for a 32 year-old running back to be signed as a starter, let alone a contract that's worth more than the veteran minimum.

TJ signed a nice contract with the Chiefs and if he could have gotten something more or equal elsewhere, he would have.

It's pretty goddammed simple.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6609110)
a 40 year old Weigman is better than a Niswanger at any age IMHO.

I'd agree. But if the Chiefs stand pat at the center position and do nothing in the draft, they're most likely looking at signing yet another veteran next year and spending a draft choice in 2011.

Time will tell.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6609110)
Its no doubt that he has had serious knee issues in the past, I just have hope that he will continue to be healthy enough to contribute like he did in starting 19 games last year (yeah, that means the whole year including the superbowl)

Lilja never made a probowl.

Hope is all Chiefs fan have these days.

aturnis 03-16-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609178)
If those guys were the best at those position they would have been signed or had offers from teams. I posted the stats Weigmann was worse than Niswanger in pass protection. So saying he's an upgrade isn't true.

Are you really this arrogant? Hasn't the point been hammered home yet? Weigmann play last year in a power blocking system. Not his cup of tea. He will be playing in our new zone blocking system, which is his cup of tea. Get it? Look at how Weigmann had performed over his entire career in comparison to last year. You are a total ****ing doucher. Now go fetch your daddy his paper lapdog.

Marcellus 03-16-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6609190)
Are you really this obtuse?

If Thomas Jones had been offered a contract by a winning football organization, he'd have taken it.

The problem for TJ is that there is rarely, if ever, an opportunity for a 32 year-old running back to be signed as a starter, let alone a contract that's worth more than the veteran minimum.

TJ signed a nice contract with the Chiefs and if he could have gotten something more or equal elsewhere, he would have.

It's pretty goddammed simple.

Regardless of you opinion, the general consensus in the media and with Jets fans and pretty much everybody but you is that TJ being released by the Jets and then the Jets signing LT, who's production has been less than TJ's the last few years makes no sense.

TJ signs here because he has no other options yet the Jets sign LT who had multiple visits and much interest but it made no sense for the Jets to replace a more productive back with a less productive one.

So who was worth what according to who?

It' not that goddamn simple. If I was a Jets fan I would be pissed. I am KC fan so I am fine with getting TJ because I would rather have him than LT.

To say TJ had no other options is ridiculous when broke down ass LT had options.

I know LT was much better in his prime but right now there is no doubt who is a better back.

And by the way, LJ's contract with Washington contradicts your comment about rare contracts above the veteran minimum for RB's
over 30. You think Washington would rather have LJ than Jones?

Oh yea Oakland wanted LJ too. Think they weren't interested in TJ?

aturnis 03-16-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609144)
LOL you're ****ing clueless.

Yeah, defend him, yeah...he'll like that. Maybe later, he'll spank you. Ooooh yeah.

SAUTO 03-16-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609178)
If those guys were the best at those position they would have been signed or had offers from teams. I posted the stats Weigmann was worse than Niswanger in pass protection. So saying he's an upgrade isn't true.

ok then name the better fas this year at those positions?
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Marcellus 03-16-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609178)
If those guys were the best at those position they would have been signed or had offers from teams. I posted the stats Weigmann was worse than Niswanger in pass protection. So saying he's an upgrade isn't true.

People bitch we don't act fast in free agency then state when we sign guys quickly they had no other options.

Priceless.

Bill Lundberg 03-16-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6609331)
ok then name the better fas this year at those positions?
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This

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6609313)
Regardless of you opinion, the general consensus in the media and with Jets fans and pretty much everybody but you is that TJ being released by the Jets and then the Jets signing LT, who's production has been less than TJ's the last few years makes no sense.

TJ signs here because he has no other options yet the Jets sign LT who had multiple visits and much interest but it made no sense for the Jets to replace a more productive back with a less productive one.

So who was worth what according to who?

It' not that goddamn simple. If I was a Jets fan I would be pissed. I am KC fan so I am fine with getting TJ because I would rather have him than LT.

To say TJ had no other options is ridiculous when broke down ass LT had options.

I know LT was much better in his prime but right now there is no doubt who is a better back.

And by the way, LJ's contract with Washington contradicts your comment about rare contracts above the veteran minimum for RB's
over 30. You think Washington would rather have LJ than Jones?

Oh yea Oakland wanted LJ too. Think they weren't interested in TJ?

Again, how about providing some actual proof, instead of nonstop speculation.

dirk digler 03-16-2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6609178)
If those guys were the best at those position they would have been signed or had offers from teams. I posted the stats Weigmann was worse than Niswanger in pass protection. So saying he's an upgrade isn't true.

This same argument has been peddled on CP for the longest time. If the Chiefs sign a FA they either suck, the FO sucks, the Chiefs are cheap, or the Chiefs suck and are stupid. But if another team signs a FA then they are smart, winners and don't suck.

The fact is everyone around the NFL is laughing at the Jets for signing LT when they could had a better player in Thomas Jones. But hey the Chiefs suck and so does Thomas Jones so what's new?


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