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Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First Round (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=226698)

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 6684433)

This place is going to be must see tv Thursday night.

The drafturbators should all get together and web cam their party/mass suicide./jk

PhilFree:arrow:

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 6684433)

This place is going to be must see tv Thursday night.

Careful, it will be like looking into the Sun.

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 6684433)

This place is going to be must see tv Thursday night.

I'll need my migraine meds in full supply depending on the results.

only and ONLY if Eric Berry is off the board. He's going to be an elite player and we better take him if he's there.

I just heard we're trading down to target Colt McCoy late in the first in exchange for an extra 2nd, 4th and 5th

I'm not gonna bitch about what they do in the draft. I just want the end result to make for a season of wins. If Thomas J. becomes a ****ing stud and J.Charles rips it up and Cassel looks good because of some OT we drafted then hell yea!

If the D line kicks ass and the corners look like savey vets because of a DT we draft then hell yea lets do it. So what I'm saying is show me in the season. Im done critiquing the choices made in the draft. I was all pumped when we got dorsey, flowers and albert but whoopty ****ing doo what a season.

SHOW ME THIS SEASON! that this team doesnt need 2-3 years not to suck ass. But I do seem to think that with the moves and rumors of this team that it will take a extended amount of time to become a solid contender! Like a ****ing 5 year plan is what I see.:mad:

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Originally Posted by kchero (Post 6683688)

I am high on S Earl Thomas,.....

You name your backyard plants?!

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6684111)

Don't get me wrong. I want Clausen first and if not him, I guess Berry.

My worry, though, is that if Berry comes in and doesn't capture bin Laden by Week 4, people will be on him like they've been on Dorsey. Expectations are way too high right now, in my opinion. And if they draft Clausen, some people will pounce on him every mistake he makes because we didn't draft Berry. And if god forbid they don't draft one of those two guys, he will never get a chance, kind of like Jackson has been treated. It's becoming a no-win situation for anyone that we draft, which is not good.

I may disagree with who we draft, but I will certainly have no ill will against them and will want them to succeed. If we draft Dez Bryant, I'll wince, but I'll root for Dez Bryant to do well. Same with Earl Thomas or Bulaga or Dan Williams or McClain or anybody.

Pioli's not going to do everything exactly the way we would. That may not necessarily mean it's wrong or that he won't be successful.

And I'm not preaching at you, OTW58. I'm preaching at the world.

Well said. I live and die with the chiefs every year. But it seems like a lot of people fancy themselves as expert talent evaluators and become personally invested in their opinions about certain players. So much so that it makes it difficult to carry on an objective conversation.

I have opinions but I still believe in giving something the the benefit of the doubt until proven one way or the other.

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 6684478)

I just heard we're trading down to target Colt McCoy late in the first in exchange for an extra 2nd, 4th and 5th

Did one of your hogs tell you this while you were giving him his happy ending?

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan93 (Post 6684477)

If you expected to see immediate results from the '08 draft, expecting to see wins immediately, then you're a ****ing idiot.

That was not going to be the case.

If Hunt had hired a new GM who stayed the course from that draft, and that GM, in turn, hired a HC with a clue, then this team would be well on it's way to becomong winners and true contenders.

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6684485)

Did one of your hogs tell you this while you were giving him his happy ending?

No. But it came from a reliable source.

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6683698)

This is pretty much where I stand, too. Trade-downs in my opinion are almost always a bad move.

Every year presents different good scenarios for a team. If we are one or two superstars away from a SB caliber team then I say stay pat. But if we need a bunch of talented players, you jump on any opportunity for a good trade down that gives you more draft choices. This way you do not bring an expensive superstar into a team that cannot help him. The guy will cost a lot and probably is used up faster than if he has a a good solid team around him. By the time the team is any good, he is no longer viable.

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6683766)

What would a team have to give up to move up? I am thinking a swap of 1st round picks and 2 extra picks at least.

Depends on the other team's position in the first round. You are talking about a long range.

Hey muffman if you would read my post, I just want to see it in the season and dont give a flip about the draft. So if you just assume a idea of what I was saying instead of reading then your just a complaining bitch,how original!;)

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 6683788)

09 Draft, Tyson Jackson ? I think we'll be happy in the foreseeable future with him.

I really hope so. I remember Neil Smith had bust written all over him in his first pro year.