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Rain Man 10-17-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 7096678)
Cassel threw an uncatchable ball with the game on the line. The Chiefs told him to go win it and he blew it.

And he just overthrew a wide open Horne.

and they weren't even close. that's what kills me.

and thanks to barry richardson for not playing on the final play. what was that about?
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chiefzilla1501 10-17-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by donkhater (Post 7097619)
Go back an look at the TD pass Bowe dropped last week. Could have called OPI on that if you think this was.

More often than not, when you're talking about a ball where either the receiver or the D-back has to stop, there's expected to be some incidental contact and borderline PI on both sides as the two jockey for position.

When you're talking about a guy running at full sprint, that's a totally different story. You're not supposed to shove a guy going at full sprint when the ball is in the air. Johnson knows that. He did it intentionally. And so there is no borderline. It should have been OPI and it wasn't. The team should move on, but at the same time, they shouldn't be forced to because the refs don't do their job.

bobbything 10-17-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7098218)
Overall, I agree with the above, but I ask you, like I've asked over and over again today.

How many thimes did the Texans stuff the Chiefs runs on third and short situations?

In all honesty, I don't remember. I do remember them stuffing us on 2nd and short a lot.

At worst, they stop us and are forced to use a timeout.

But, this is simply one area where we shit the bed today.

Lzen 10-18-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7097604)
If Javier Arenas makes a tackle on 3rd and 10 with a minute to go, instead of getting dragged for 5 yards, we hold Houston to a FG attempt and have some clock to work with.

Just one example.

The offense didn't make a play when they needed to.

Neither did the defense.

Plain and simple.

This sums it up pretty well. It was a team effort in the loss. And by team, I mean, offense, defense, special teams, and refs. ;)

ChiTown 10-18-2010 08:10 AM

This was the Offenses turn to WIN this game for the team. They have been riding the coattails of the D all season. This time, the offense needed to step up, get the first down and keep the ball moving. The fact that we ran the World's worst 3rd and 2 play only accentuates the FAIL of that series.

Was the Defense absolute shit yesterday? Yes, without a doubt. That only adds emphasis to my earlier point that you run it on 3rd down (clock), and if you don't get it, you run it again on 4th. I feel reasonably confident, given how we ran yesterday, that we could have picked up two yards in 2 plays. Worst case: You don't get the 1st down, the Texan's have a shorter field to score, and take less time doing it. We then have more time to execute a final drive of our own.

Anyway, a lot of 2nd guessing here, but that last offensive series made me want to puke.

Beef Supreme 10-18-2010 09:06 AM

I think everyone has summed up the numerous reasons we lost the game. But I think our guys played a damn good game against a very tough team. We should have won it, but we played hard and came up short in a few areas and were on the wrong end of at least one non-call by the refs.

We looked like a pretty well rounded football team yesterday. We converted third downs. We scored offensive touchdowns. The Texans defense may be a prime suspect, but we played well.

The coaches said they needed to work on converting third downs this week and we did. We should have won, and it sucks that we didn't, but there are quite a few positives to take away from this game. Now we need to work on getting it done in clutch situations.

This game is over, time to think about next week.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-18-2010 10:30 AM

The defense definitely lost this game.

FAX 10-18-2010 10:39 AM

Sometimes you "win" the game and sometimes the enemy "loses". And then, there are games you "lose" because the enemy "wins".

This one had a little of both.

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Mecca 10-18-2010 10:43 AM

Houston is what we use to be, all offense no defense. I don't think this game is an indictment on the Chiefs defense, Houston scores on most everyone. You just have to be able to consistently score and move the ball to beat that team.

FAX 10-18-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7099380)
Houston is what we use to be, all offense no defense. I don't think this game is an indictment on the Chiefs defense, Houston scores on most everyone. You just have to be able to consistently score and move the ball to beat that team.

I don't disagree with this.

It's interesting, though, how well their offense does in the second half of games. I wonder why.

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