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cabletech94 02-11-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8365059)
so are we gonna use most of this 64 million to get Manning?

old reliable manning-abso-effing-lutely!

unsure of the noodle armed wobbly launcher manning-big gamble (duh).

now, if he is damaged goods, he's still got the brain to win a few games. i don't know if i'd take the risk.
plus we still have a couple holes to fill/upgrade.

BoneKrusher 02-11-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 8365074)

now, if he is damaged goods, he's still got the brain to win a few games. i don't know if i'd take the risk.
plus we still have a couple holes to fill/upgrade.

well Pioli could sign Orton, fill the holes and still have lots of money saved.

prolly not too much saved after he resigns Bowe and Carr.

milkman 02-11-2012 08:30 AM

I've seen the 30% rule cited as a reason that the Chiefs can't negotiate with Carr at this point.

I don't fully understand this rule.

Can someone explain this to me?

cabletech94 02-11-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8365083)
well Pioli could sign Orton, fill the holes and still have lots of money saved.

yeah. i think orton is serviceable. a helluva lot more than cassle. i still think that orton was just picked up for the potential draft pick.
i agree with your statement. that'd make the most sense. but we are talking about the chiefs here my friend!

cabletech94 02-11-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8365085)
I've seen the 30% rule cited as a reason that the Chiefs can't negotiate with Carr at this point.

I don't fully understand this rule.

Can someone explain this to me?

far as i've understood, it's a calendar issue. something with the new collective bargaining i believe. stupid.

but i'm sure there's negotiations going onbehind closed doors. gotta be. right?

Coogs 02-11-2012 08:41 AM

I don't keep up with the Redskins much, but I find it a little hard to believe they are high on this list with all of the deals they have thrown out there over the past several years.

milkman 02-11-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8365091)
I don't keep up with the Redskins much, but I find it a little hard to believe they are high on this list with all of the deals they have thrown out there over the past several years.

They haven't really been spending money since the Haynesworth deal, and all of those bad contracts are off the books now for them.

Coogs 02-11-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8365097)
They haven't really been spending money since the Haynesworth deal, and all of those bad contracts are off the books now for them.

Apparently. Guess I haven't paid that much attention the past few years to them. Figured since the owner was pretty free to toss his cash around, that he was probably still doing that.

milkman 02-11-2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 8365089)
far as i've understood, it's a calendar issue. something with the new collective bargaining i believe. stupid.

but i'm sure there's negotiations going onbehind closed doors. gotta be. right?

I had never heard of the 30% rule until Parker mentioned it a few days ago.

After researching, as I understand it, a team can not extend a player's contract with more than a 30% increase.

So, in order for the Chiefs to pay Carr what he's worth, they have to let his contract expire.

Someone correct me if I have that wrong.

BoneKrusher 02-11-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8365107)
I had never heard of the 30% rule until Parker mentioned it a few days ago.

After researching, as I understand it, a team can not extend a player's contract with more than a 30% increase.

So, in order for the Chiefs to pay Carr what he's worth, they have to let his contract expire.

Someone correct me if I have that wrong.

that's ^^^ the way i understand it.

mrbiggz 02-11-2012 10:04 AM

Ok, we have to spend some money. Here is my proposal
Sign or tag Bowe
Sign or tag Carr
Sign Orton or trade up in the draft if possible for RG3. Even though it doesn't effect the cap we can still spend some cash to move up. Maybe 20 mil will do it.
Sign the best RT and a LG that money can buy and fits our system
Sign a NT that can clog up the middle
Sign a passrusher to go with Hali
Sign someone to play backup at safety
CUT MATT ****ING CASSEL

milkman 02-11-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbiggz (Post 8365164)
Ok, we have to spend some money. Here is my proposal
Sign or tag Bowe
Sign or tag Carr
Sign Orton or trade up in the draft if possible for RG3. Even though it doesn't effect the cap we can still spend some cash to move up. Maybe 20 mil will do it.
Sign the best RT and a LG that money can buy and fits our system
Sign a NT that can clog up the middle
Sign a passrusher to go with Hali
Sign someone to play backup at safety
CUT MATT ****ING CASSEL

Are you suggesting paying 20 mil to the Rams, along with other considerations, to move up to their spot?

O.city 02-11-2012 10:09 AM

Could that actually work?

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-11-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8365107)
I had never heard of the 30% rule until Parker mentioned it a few days ago.

After researching, as I understand it, a team can not extend a player's contract with more than a 30% increase.

So, in order for the Chiefs to pay Carr what he's worth, they have to let his contract expire.

Someone correct me if I have that wrong.

I said this like a month ago but i might be wrong the 30% rule only applies to a player after his rookie deal is up and for carr that was last year.So the chiefs can sign him whenever they want to now.



Carr was drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in the fifth round (140th overall) of the 2008 ... The Chiefs agreed to a three-year contract with Carr on June 11, 2008..Once carr signed that 1y 2m deal last offseason the 30% rule went bye-bye.

cabletech94 02-11-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8365107)
I had never heard of the 30% rule until Parker mentioned it a few days ago.

After researching, as I understand it, a team can not extend a player's contract with more than a 30% increase.

So, in order for the Chiefs to pay Carr what he's worth, they have to let his contract expire.

Someone correct me if I have that wrong.

that's the way i read into it also. but after reading ^^^ i'm even more confused.


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