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vailpass 07-16-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8744859)
Yeah, just seems like you guys have had more than others lately. We had Jared Allen and LJ a while back, but it seems like things have been relatively quiet lately unless I'm forgetting someone.

I hear you. It can happen to any team. Owners ought to have financial recourse at a high enough level to act as a deterrent that would actually make these idiots think before they roll around town with pistols tucked in their belts pretending they are Tony Montana.

SAY HELLO TO THE DUMB GUY!!!

vailpass 07-16-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8744910)

Harvey Steinberg makes a living off the Broncos. He gets so many black guys off he could be a Kardashian.

SAUTO 07-16-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8744910)

that would probably be WORSE. he had a permit for his gun right?

DaFace 07-16-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8744920)
I hear you. It can happen to any team. Owners ought to have financial recourse at a high enough level to act as a deterrent that would actually make these idiots think before they roll around town with pistols tucked in their belts pretending they are Tony Montana.

SAY HELLO TO THE DUMB GUY!!!

I had a post written that explained that I agreed with you, but I think it's a complicated issue. On the one hand, it sucks that teams suffer when a player goes out and act like an idiot, so it would indeed be nice if they could recoup some major dough for issues like this.

On the other hand, a system like that would reduce the risk teams face when picking up a player with character issues, and I don't necessarily want it to be easier for thugs to break into the game in the first place.

rockymtnchief 07-16-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8744910)

Big deal. I have, in my possession, a couple of my dads guns and a friends gun. If I use them in a crime, am I innocent because they don't belong to me?

alanm 07-16-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 8744886)
Yes...and people often think it's battery

There was assault on Dumervil's part.
I was trying to interject a little levity with the lace panties part.
I haven't actually heard what was thrown at the RR.
I thought it was a little over the top for 2 guys to jump out of their car and threaten a lady by showing their weapons.

Quesadilla Joe 07-16-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8744938)
that would probably be WORSE. he had a permit for his gun right?

Lindsay Jones mentioned Doom had a permit in a tweet yesterday.

Garcia Bronco 07-16-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 8744947)
There was assault on Dumervil's part.
I was trying to interject a little levity with the lace panties part.
I haven't actually heard what was thrown at the RR.
I thought it was a little over the top for 2 guys to jump out of their car and threaten a lady by showing their weapons.

It's a little more complicated than that, there was some third party involved, but the details are shakey at best

vailpass 07-16-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8744945)
I had a post written that explained that I agreed with you, but I think it's a complicated issue. On the one hand, it sucks that teams suffer when a player goes out and act like an idiot, so it would indeed be nice if they could recoup some major dough for issues like this.

On the other hand, a system like that would reduce the risk teams face when picking up a player with character issues, and I don't necessarily want it to be easier for thugs to break into the game in the first place.

Great point. Maybe part of the rule is that if a team pick's up a player that has incurred the Idiot Penalty within the past 12 months that team may only collect 50% of the penalty if the player re-offends any time during his first season.

Quesadilla Joe 07-16-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 8744946)
Big deal. I have, in my possession, a couple of my dads guns and a friends gun. If I use them in a crime, am I innocent because they don't belong to me?

Maybe Elvis didn't use the gun in a crime. Maybe one of the people he was with did and Elvis didn't know someone put it in the glove box.

This could be a scenario similar to the one Chumlee was in, where his friends beat up a guy while Chumlee just stood there. The only difference is Doom's buddies had guns and didn't harm anyone.

SAUTO 07-16-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8744959)
Lindsay Jones mentioned Doom had a permit in a tweet yesterday.

i understand that, but was the permit for THAT gun?

SAUTO 07-16-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8744990)
Maybe Elvis didn't use the gun in a crime. Maybe one of the people he was with did and Elvis didn't know someone put it in the glove box.

This could be a scenario similar to the one Chumlee was in, where his friends beat up a guy while Chumlee just stood there. The only difference is Doom's buddies had guns and didn't harm anyone.

well except for the PEOPLE that SAW dumb with a GUN

Quesadilla Joe 07-16-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8744995)
i understand that, but was the permit for THAT gun?

Not according to DMAC. That gun wasn't his it was one of his buddies'.

vailpass 07-16-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8744997)
well except for the PEOPLE that SAW dumb with a GUN

Yeah police report says Elvis lifted his shirt to show a gun in his waistband, says witness identified that it was Elvis.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/...t-miami/14278/

BigMeatballDave 07-16-2012 03:02 PM

Elvis may escape any legal issues, but the mere impropriety may get him 4-6 games off.


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