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Molitoth 09-22-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bshmerlie (Post 10009269)
Great.....just great....the NY Giants sucked badly today.

So even if KC wins next week....Alex still won't get any credit.

Winning and losing has nothing to do with evaluating Alex Smith properly.

The Chiefs Defense is playing good enough right now where almost any QB in this league would be put in a good enough situation to take advantage for a win.

Alex Smith has come through when it really matters (4th quarter drives), but the rest of the time him and the entire offense has been garbage.
Alex Smith is the leader of this offense, therefor he gets the blame.

When someone states that Eric Fisher sucks, I don't see everyone coming to his defense claiming "3-0!!!!". Shouldn't be the same for Alex Smith either. Winning is a TEAM goal, and the Defense is pulling most of the weight.

Alex Smith can Surely play much better and I hope he does, but just because this team is 3-0 doesn't relieve ANYONE on this team of criticism if they deserve it. Does anyone think Andy Reid is at the facilities right now saying to his offense, "it's okay guys, we are 3-0... no need to stop sucking ass."

duncan_idaho 09-22-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10009275)
Milk and Deez arw right. Smith looks brilliant for a few drives but most of the game he's pedestrian. I still think with improved oline play he can be a top 15 QB and with that defense that means playoffs.

And what happens once they're there?

I need to see more moments like the pivotal 3rd down throw from the shadow of his end zone on Thursday night to believe getting to the playoffs with Alex Smith at the helm means KC has a realistic chance to make some noise.

Brock 09-22-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bshmerlie (Post 10009269)
Great.....just great....the NY Giants sucked badly today.

So even if KC wins next week....Alex still won't get any credit.

Darn!

Titty Meat 09-22-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10009290)
And what happens once they're there?

I need to see more moments like the pivotal 3rd down throw from the shadow of his end zone on Thursday night to believe getting to the playoffs with Alex Smith at the helm means KC has a realistic chance to make some noise.

We lose. If we had any of the QB from this draft class we also lose.

Mav 09-22-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10009295)
We lose. If we had any of the QB from this draft class we also lose.

Other than maybe the Jets, and I don't believe they are going to make the playoffs, who could possibly in the AFC have a defense as good as the Chiefs?

Did you see what the Cowboys did to the Rams today?

The Chiefs defense is really good, and defense travels well. The run game will eventually will come around, and the passing game will improve.

Its silly to predict after 3 weeks that the Chiefs would roll over dead.

It wont happen. Defenses usually don't slump.

Ragged Robin 09-22-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 10009287)
Winning and losing has nothing to do with evaluating Alex Smith properly.

The Chiefs Defense is playing good enough right now where almost any QB in this league would be put in a good enough situation to take advantage for a win.

Alex Smith has come through when it really matters (4th quarter drives), but the rest of the time him and the entire offense has been garbage.
Alex Smith is the leader of this offense, therefor he gets the blame.

When someone states that Eric Fisher sucks, I don't see everyone coming to his defense claiming "3-0!!!!". Shouldn't be the same for Alex Smith either. Winning is a TEAM goal, and the Defense is pulling most of the weight.

Alex Smith can Surely play much better and I hope he does, but just because this team is 3-0 doesn't relieve ANYONE on this team of criticism if they deserve it. Does anyone think Andy Reid is at the facilities right now saying to his offense, "it's okay guys, we are 3-0... no need to stop sucking ass."

The team was perfect in the redzone for the first two games, both of which he walked out of 2 TDs 0 INT passing. That's the Alex Smith, as advertised, we're going to get. Even the best QBs in the league have bad games and if you want to call the Eagles game a "bad game" then I'll settle for "no critical mistakes, play well enough to stay competitive while making critical and sustaining drives when it matters the most" as his version of having a bad game.

Compare that with (who else?) Kaepernick:
At best, 400+ yards passing 3 TDs (week 1 win).
At worst, 6 turnovers, 0 TDs 139 YPG passing average (week 2+3 losses)

Alex may not ever have that high of a game but he won't have that low of a low.

Titty Meat 09-22-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10009313)
Other than maybe the Jets, and I don't believe they are going to make the playoffs, who could possibly in the AFC have a defense as good as the Chiefs?

Did you see what the Cowboys did to the Rams today?

The Chiefs defense is really good, and defense travels well. The run game will eventually will come around, and the passing game will improve.

Its silly to predict after 3 weeks that the Chiefs would roll over dead.

It wont happen. Defenses usually don't slump.

Maybe they win a wild card game but they are comparable to the Bengals of last year with a worse offense.

Mav 09-22-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10009358)
Maybe they win a wild card game but they are comparable to the Bengals of last year with a worse offense.

Today yes. But that's assuming that the offense doesn't get better. I don't think that is possible.

Ragged Robin 09-22-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10009358)
Maybe they win a wild card game but they are comparable to the Bengals of last year with a worse offense.

How about the 2011 49ers? :evil:

DeezNutz 09-22-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10009184)
I don't think a guy with a PhD in English from Yale has the necessary reading comprehension to figure out what the hell you just composed.

I'd really like to respond to your post, but I simply have no idea where or what to respond to. It hurts my eyes. It befuddles my brain.

Go ahead and note the grammatical problems and inaccuracies, and I'll respond in kind.

The post is clear, but I'll accept the tap out if you'd like.

JENKINSWINS 09-22-2013 07:15 PM

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Saccopoo 09-22-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10009379)
Go ahead and note the grammatical problems and inaccuracies, and I'll respond in kind.

The post is clear, but I'll accept the tap out if you'd like.

To tell you the truth, I didn't even notice any grammatical errors as the entire post, from a comprehension standpoint, was a complete mishmash of inane blather.

Sure, Dostoevsky and Burroughs made their marks in literary history with cacophonous ramblings, but you've reached a whole new level of WTF?.

duncan_idaho 09-22-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10009295)
We lose. If we had any of the QB from this draft class we also lose.

I won't argue that... however...

How much is Alex Smith going to improve from this year to next year? Is he going to take the step - at age 30 - that makes him a QB who can CARRY an offense against elite teams? Or is he going to continue being an efficient guy who doesn't make mistakes but has to rely on his defense and run game to be successful?

As long as he's not the lock-stock-and-two-smoking-barrels "answer," and is replaced by the 2015 season, that isn't an issue (other than overpayment for him in the first place).

As long as a 2013 QB class guy isn't a "Star" type QB by the end of the 2014 season, I wouldn't even say it was an issue.

But if Geno Smith or Manuel or Matt Barkley, etc., is a star by that time? Yikes.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-22-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 10003696)
Smith is a huge upgrade. What used to be a crippling, team killing position for the Chiefs, is now at least competent. I appreciate that, and expect the offense to get better as they work together longer.

The big story is our D. They're just killin' it right now.

This. For reasons I can not fathom, Alex Smith is putting up yards from God knows where. I don't see it in the games, but there it is.
This offense produces an effect I can best describe as "nail-biting constipation", but Special Teams and Defense are ****ing spectacular this year.
A deep threat QB and another high-talent receiver put the Chiefs in contention for a Championship every year.

Ny is freaking me out though. They're due, and we've got extra time off. Not a good combination IMO.

Ragged Robin 09-22-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10009412)
I won't argue that... however...

How much is Alex Smith going to improve from this year to next year? Is he going to take the step - at age 30 - that makes him a QB who can CARRY an offense against elite teams? Or is he going to continue being an efficient guy who doesn't make mistakes but has to rely on his defense and run game to be successful?

As long as he's not the lock-stock-and-two-smoking-barrels "answer," and is replaced by the 2015 season, that isn't an issue (other than overpayment for him in the first place).

As long as a 2013 QB class guy isn't a "Star" type QB by the end of the 2014 season, I wouldn't even say it was an issue.

But if Geno Smith or Manuel or Matt Barkley, etc., is a star by that time? Yikes.

Brandon Weedon is older than Alex Smith and Browns fans are still holding out hope for him to develop ROFL Also, we weren't the only team to pass on any of those guys and nothing so far has indicated that they are special in any way, especially in respect to their draft position versus where we would have drafted them. IMO at best they'll be like Sam Bradford--a supposed household name yet trend in mediocrity even 3-4 years down the road and not really do anything.


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