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Jakemall 04-28-2014 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10519416)
He had a big day. That'll push him up a couple rounds...


BTW, he played against Dennard and looked good...that's impressive.

More on Cody...

http://www.fieldgulls.com/nfl-draft/...report-indiana

OldSchool 04-28-2014 01:46 AM

Hmm . . . didn't know that he didn't start playing organized football until Junior Year in HS. Gosh damn I wish we had multiple picks in the top 2 rounds.

OldSchool 04-28-2014 01:53 AM

http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_...gif?1398281749

Those are some great wheels.

Saccopoo 04-28-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10590184)

I agree. Missouri FS Braylon Webb does an excellent job of catching Latimer from behind and making a touchdown saving tackle.

Personally, I don't think Latimer fits well with the Chiefs offensive system.

When watching him, the first word that came to my mind was "stiff." He's not very fluid on his breaks (and really doesn't make many breaks anyway as the Hoosier seemed to use him exclusively on deep and fade corner routes because of this). He doesn't create very good separation off the line and doesn't have very good open field agility.

Single speed receiver that doesn't seem to have a great feel for the game.

I think he's getting overvalued because of his strength/straight line speed combination. Teams are looking at his base parameters, his basketball first background and thinking that they can coach him up.

He doesn't have the explosiveness of guys like Watkins, Beckham, Moncrief or Cooks and he doesn't have the instincts/naturalness of a Matthews or Robinson.

I'd easily take Clemson's Martavis Bryant over him. (Yet another guy running a Combine official 4.42 with a 39" vertical at 6'4", 211 lbs. - Jesus this draft is ****ing absolutely loaded with WR's.)

I think that Latimer going to be overdrafted by someone.

ForeverChiefs58 05-04-2014 10:52 PM

Gil Brandt of NFL.com, reports Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin recently blew off a private workout with an NFL coach who had made a special trip to work him out...Benjamins excuse was that he was too tired.

kccrow 05-04-2014 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 10602663)
Gil Brandt of NFL.com, reports Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin recently blew off a private workout with an NFL coach who had made a special trip to work him out...Benjamins excuse was that he was too tired.

I've felt he's been overrated by at least 3 rounds through the entire process. He's not very good. He's tall, big whoop. Lot's of tall guys have failed, ask Mr. Baldwin. I don't think Benjamin is as good as Baldwin was coming out, which makes it even more laughable that draft people consider him a 1st round talent.

OldSchool 05-04-2014 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 10602669)
I've felt he's been overrated by at least 3 rounds through the entire process. He's not very good. He's tall, big whoop. Lot's of tall guys have failed, ask Mr. Baldwin. I don't think Benjamin is as good as Baldwin was coming out, which makes it even more laughable that draft people consider him a 1st round talent.

I think Coleman is every bit as good as Benjamin and he could probably be had in the 4th.

planetdoc 05-05-2014 04:50 PM

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Mort on ESPN's best show (NFL Insiders): Andy Reid likes Brandin Cooks; GM John Dorsey likes bigger WRs. No 2nd rd pick. Tough spot for KC
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/5...hiefs-at-no-23

jd1020 05-05-2014 05:50 PM

We got another GM that wont listen to his coach?

planetdoc 05-05-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10603695)
We got another GM that wont listen to his coach?

I think Dorsey is correct on this. The majority of the top wr in the nfl are tall. They can vetically seperate and contest for balls.

I dont think its a simple as size, but likely has to do with explosive ability (the ability to move a lot of weight quickly).

jd1020 05-05-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10603742)
I think Dorsey is correct on this. The majority of the top wr in the nfl are tall. They can vetically seperate and contest for balls.

I dont think its a simple as size, but likely has to do with explosive ability (the ability to move a lot of weight quickly).

I'm not sold on Cooks becoming the next Steve Smith, but **** this noise about size. Plenty of smaller guys that make it work.

OldSchool 05-05-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10603749)
I'm not sold on Cooks becoming the next Steve Smith, but **** this noise about size. Plenty of smaller guys that make it work.

Make it work, sure, if that's all you're looking for in a WR. If you want guys who just "make it work", take them in the 3rd or later rounds, not the 1st or second. That should be reserved for guys who can dominate at all areas of the field.

jd1020 05-05-2014 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10603756)
Make it work, sure, if that's all you're looking for in a WR. If you want guys who just "make it work", take them in the 3rd or later rounds, not the 1st or second. That should be reserved for guys who can dominate at all areas of the field.

There's like 4 guys in the entire league that dominate all areas on the field... shitty argument.

You go with your gut and pick the one you think is the best. If you've got a problem with a 5'9 WR making 100+ catches a year because you could have got a 6'4 guy that makes a living on a catch that didn't count then you've got ****ing issues.

planetdoc 05-05-2014 07:30 PM

reposting since its relevant.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...d-b286b23bbb55

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Ferrin: What is your overall evaluation of the entire 2014 NFL Draft Class?

Dorsey: "It’s another sign of the times, larger receivers, who will display the unique ability to have size and speed to play this game. We’ve always believed that size matters and I think this class is no different from the classes of the last couple years."
Size & Speed
https://i.imgur.com/E7qWb3P.png

Here is a list of the top 20 regular season WR of 2013 by receiving yrds:
http://i.imgur.com/UrLOY6S.png

only 4 are under 6' tall. I am sure Dorsey noticed that too.

OldSchool 05-05-2014 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10603760)
There's like 4 guys in the entire league that dominate all areas on the field... shitty argument.

You go with your gut and pick the one you think is the best. If you've got a problem with a 5'9 WR making 100+ catches a year because you could have got a 6'4 guy that makes a living on a catch that didn't count then you've got ****ing issues.

Calvin Johnson
Andre Johnson
AJ Green
Julio Jones
Brandon Marshall
Alshon Jeffrey
Josh Gordon
Larry Fitzgerald
Dez Bryant
Demaryius Thomas
Vincent Jackson

These guys all have the ability to dominate in the red zone, short, intermediate, or deep because of their size, strength, flexibility, focus, and great catch radius.

Small guys like Desean Jackson and Mike Wallace, who have all of the speed and quickness in the world, might as well not be on the field in the Red Zone. I'd rather have a slower Alshon Jeffrey/Brandon Marshall who can catch everything thrown their way over a tiny guy who would be virtually useless in the red zone and actually limits what you can do down there if they are on the field.


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