2013 was a very good defense too. Houston and Hali getting injured is what ****ed it up.
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Really, Eric Berry and Earl Thomas might be illustrations of how coaching affects careers.

Thomas thrives in a scheme that puts him in position to succeed.
Berry excels in a scheme that puts him in position to fail.

Game changing players certainly exist.

Just like the QB that has numerous 4th quarter comebacks, there are defensive players that have made plays to win or seal victories multiple times as well.

Earl Thomas would have been the best regardless.

Your opinion, which I disagree with, and which can not be proven either way.

Based on last year's performance, I'm not sure that Berry's presence would make a difference.

I also believe that the Chiefs defense is elite, without Berry, and there would be very, very few teams that wouldn't swap for their talent and coaching.

Spend it on Weed for Dwayne Bowe

So you think Berry is better than Earl Thomas and Earl Thomas is only good/better because of coaching/scheme?

He was good in college and was a Texas prospect no different than Derrick Johnson or Jamaal Charles. And people think both of those guys are some of the best at their position. If you take off the Chiefs homer glasses, the guy is the better player.

When Earl Thomas first got to Seattle they were TERRIBLE and he carried that crappy defense his rookie season. He was playing next to a washed up Lawyer Milloy, an old Marcus Trufant, a bunch of other nobodies. Lofa Tatupu, Aaron Curry and David Hawthorne were the LBers. Absolute bums.

He was literally the only good player on defense for them that year.

Again?

Yep

No. I am not saying that Earl Thomas is only good because of coaching scheme.

I am saying that Berry, in a role that allowed him to take advantage of his ability and talent would be viewed as equal, at the least.

I would also say that if their roles were reversed, there is no way that Earl Thomas performs at the evel that Berry has.

Game changing players isn't what you typed.

so you don't think if the Chiefs had Earl Thomas instead of Kendrick Lewis and a Scrub SS alongside him and Seattle at ???? FS + Eric Berry during those crappy Chiefs years that Thomas wouldnt be better?

I still think he would be better even here.

Eric Berry was a playmaking safety his first 2 years at Tennessee and showed the ability to not only consistently take the ball away, but to also take it to the house on big returns.

He tested off the charts at the combine and earned his draft position by showing he could do everything.

The guy should have been used like Brian Dawkins was in Philly. By utilizing him the way the team has, they minimized his ability to impact the passing game.

No. I'm saying that if you dropped Earl Thomas in the box, he would be a bust.