I've long heard this story as well, but I'll confess that I've always been a bit skeptical of it. We've had the arrowhead since Day One in KC.

The only way I'd believe it is if Bartle suggested it as an inside joke or something.

Eh, he was a big big deal in kc back in the day. He helped put together a group of influential businessmen in kc at the time to help attract the team (my great grandpa who ran the now gone Chevy plant was among them) and did a lot of great for Kansas City.

Admittedly, I have never lived in the KC area. It always seemed to me like it was a great story to deflect criticism, but I'll defer to those of you who are more knowledgeable.

As I wasn’t there, it’s quite possible it’s apocryphal. I also know other cities did the same thing bartle did, so it’s not impossible to believe it was a fact retconned in.

who cares? words are just words. they only bother you if you let them.

the fact is we are pretty stupid if we let are emotions and health be altered by a word.
but thats why they call it - spelling.. speaking casts spells.

why else would telling a kid he's stupid or evil ,over and over, then help psychologically f up his life? repeating these stupid racist arguments makes people believe them. they are unproven, unnecessary and untrue.

all political propaganda.

Ah, well kudos for having an open mind about it.

I definitely would have thought you to be in the "don't give them an inch because they'll take a mile" camp.

If I was rebranding, I would go with the KC Spirit. Team colors would be navy blue and gunmetal gray. Matte navy colored helmets. Team logo would be the B-2 bomber. Cheerleaders would wear blue berets. Our receiving corps would be called the air force. Fans would wave blue camo flags in the stadium. There are all sorts of things you could do with military motif. Having a passing attack like ours is just the perfect match for the bomber.

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I just don't get the exclusive nature to the arrowhead and Native Americans. The earliest known users of the bow and arrow were 3000 BC Egyptians. Most likely was used 20000 BC stone age we just haven't recovered the evidence yet.

As for H. Roe "The Chief" Bartle I can remember that story being told by Bill Grigsby a dear friend of Mr Bartle. That man must of made an impression on many people. Bartle got the nickname of Chief by founding The Tribe of the Mic-O-Say BSA. I believe it real how the name was chosen. As this was after first sb and before the IV. I doubt there was much Indian protesting those days.

The drum that is more recent so if I recall American Indian nations gave it a blessing and had a agreement in its use.

If they change the name, I will pump money into a start up. What will this startup do exactly you ask?

Well LET ME TELL YOU.

This startup will take game tape and super impose the Chiefs logo back on to everything, we will then take audio and super impose that ton the broadcast so the analyst are saying "Chiefs" etc.

I will host it through multiple shell companies and host downloads from Russia/Czech.

We will work really hard to make these downloads available at reasonable rates, and as soon as the games are done. In the future with DEEP FAKE technologies (They are good right now) we might be able to do real time.

How many orders do you think I can get.

This leaves the chop. This I wish would go I never partook because of its blatant ripoff of the Florida Seminole. it was never used at Municipal or early Arrowhead till the noles became a powerhouse. Then like the wave one day it appeared during the Peterson Shottenheimer regime and never died out. I hated it for its non-originality but didn't fault those who did. We are stuck with it now as how could you police that up in a crowd of 80,000.

If we are going to change the name...lets make it the Kings. Because I have a ton of vintage Kings merch.

I wouldn't change anything else, but the chop sucks, for the reasons you noted. It's unoriginal and boring.

These are all outstanding ideas.