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Chiefer89 10-25-2021 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MightyMouse (Post 15913795)
How do you some of you keep saying it’s 1 bad game. They haven’t been a good team most of the season. What part of the defense makes you think they are on the verge of being good? The offense hasn’t adapted to the Tampa 2 and even though they see it every week. The team isn’t focused and they lack talent outside of the few stars. Moving Jones to the outside was always stupid. Failure across the board for the Chiefs. Andy is a HOF coach. I enjoyed his time in KC but I’m ready to go another direction. We need an aggressive coach and one willing to get rid of coaches that fail. He makes so many bonehead decisions to not go for it on 4th down or on big plays he runs it and takes the ball out of his star QB hands.
And who is his replacement?

You don't fire a HOF coach that just took you to three straight title games. Including a SB win.

wachashi 10-25-2021 02:49 PM
It clearly frustrated Kelce yesterday. He was begging an official to come over the sideline after a failed third-down conversion. Defenses are going to keep pushing that rule until it's called. That clip above is an example of a defender "maintaining contact" well beyond the allowable 5 yards. Those calls dictate to a certain extent how well our offense runs - there's no question about that.

mr. tegu 10-25-2021 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15913466)
Ah yes, but still elite at moving the ball. Which should destroy this notion of MUH SCREENS.

We aren’t a good enough team to just be elite at moving the ball. We have always had dumb penalties and longer drives are making it worst. Also if we aren’t scoring in more devastating fashion and continue basically getting what defenses are comfortable giving us simply moving the ball isn’t the win you think it is.

It doesn’t force teams to change their defense and instead just be happy that despite what we are doing moving the ball, the defenses are winning. And more importantly it doesn’t force them to change their offense at all. They don’t rush, press, or need to take chances knowing our offense will just get what their defense plays to and allows and nothing more.

Hammock Parties 10-25-2021 02:59 PM
That's a nice word salad that means nothing.

The Chiefs still have an elite offense. One game doesn't change that fact.

Nor does it change the fact that yes, offenses DO change their attack based on the fact they are playing us. Hence all the fourth downs teams repeatedly go for.

mr. tegu 10-25-2021 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15914067)
That's a nice word salad that means nothing.

The Chiefs still have an elite offense. One game doesn't change that fact.

Nor does it change the fact that yes, offenses DO change their attack based on the fact they are playing us. Hence all the fourth downs teams repeatedly go for.

Despite our offense moving the ball, the opponents have been in control of almost every game we’ve played aside from maybe two. We dictate nothing on offense or defense right now.

Hammock Parties 10-25-2021 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15914076)
Despite our offense moving the ball, the opponents have been in control of almost every game we’ve played aside from maybe two. We dictate nothing on offense or defense right now.
The potency of our offense dictates that teams are more aggressive on offense.

Easy 6 10-25-2021 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 15914050)
It clearly frustrated Kelce yesterday. He was begging an official to come over the sideline after a failed third-down conversion. Defenses are going to keep pushing that rule until it's called. That clip above is an example of a defender "maintaining contact" well beyond the allowable 5 yards. Those calls dictate to a certain extent how well our offense runs - there's no question about that.
Stuff like this falls squarely on Hunt, Veach and Reid to contact the league office and raise hell

mr. tegu 10-25-2021 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15914085)
The potency of our offense dictates that teams are more aggressive on offense.

I would much rather our offense dictate something to the opposing defenses.

Papi 10-25-2021 03:17 PM
Watching the Chefs sh*t show is so bad they actually killed an official. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-71-on-sunday/

RunKC 10-25-2021 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15914067)
That's a nice word salad that means nothing.

The Chiefs still have an elite offense. One game doesn't change that fact.

Nor does it change the fact that yes, offenses DO change their attack based on the fact they are playing us. Hence all the fourth downs teams repeatedly go for.
You can’t be an elite offense when you’re turning the ball over as much as they are

wachashi 10-25-2021 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15914091)
Stuff like this falls squarely on Hunt, Veach and Reid to contact the league office and raise hell
That's exactly right. And Mahomes and Kelce both need to be in the officials' ears before and during every game about it if that's how defenses are going to play Kelce. The rule is the rule.

FlaChief58 10-25-2021 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 15912742)
What. The. ****. Is. This. Post. Saying?!?!??
We're calling about your cars warranty

Hammock Parties 10-25-2021 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15914100)
You can’t be an elite offense when you’re turning the ball over as much as they are
I would say the WFT game is proof otherwise.

Hammock Parties 10-25-2021 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15914094)
I would much rather our offense dictate something to the opposing defenses.
It dictates they stay in Cover 2. And the Chiefs have taken advantage of that this year.

excessive 10-25-2021 03:32 PM
Mahomes' 20 and 0 comment is coming back hard on him. He didn't take much, if any, criticism when he said it, but now it seems revealing of an entitled attitude, despite the usual proclamations of "having to work for it."


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