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BryanBusby 12-21-2021 07:34 PM

Pump em full of Prestone, Viagra and Flinstones Vitamins and put em on the field!!!

Braincase 12-21-2021 07:40 PM

* your mileage may vary.

FringeNC 12-21-2021 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16027025)
It was weird to me Rogan did anything. He had talked about how it wasn't really a problem for people who took care of themselves/watched what they ate and were in good shape, but as soon as he got it he "threw" the kitchen sink at it.

Why is that weird? Why be sick, even if you're not worried about dying, if you don't have to be?

lewdog 12-21-2021 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 16027441)
Why is that weird? Why be sick, even if you're not worried about dying, if you don't have to be?

It's the reasoning that's faulty.

You don't want the vaccine because you're concerned about it's makeup but you'll take a cocktail mix of different medications that aren't normally used together without question? Medications have side effects and drug interactions are a huge concern in healthcare.

If you are asymptomatic though, I think the NFL should allow them to play. They've got to figure out something better than their current plan.

Braincase 12-21-2021 08:40 PM

One overriding fact.

No matter what measures are taken, the virus doesn't care. It's going to mutate, infect, mutate, and move on.

Follow the best course of control on your horizon. Some folks will go one way, others will go a different way with the benefit of reduced chances of ringworm.

Marcellus 12-21-2021 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16027507)
It's the reasoning that's faulty.

You don't want the vaccine because you're concerned about it's makeup but you'll take a cocktail mix of different medications that aren't normally used together without question? Medications have side effects and drug interactions are a huge concern in healthcare.

If you are asymptomatic though, I think the NFL should allow them to play. They've got to figure out something better than their current plan.

He got the information to use these drugs from Doctors who use these drugs.

My wife was positive a few weeks ago (along with me). Her doctor prescribed her monoclonal antibodies which are reserved for higher risk patients (she has high BP), ivermectin, z-pak, and dexamethasone. ( I incorrectly said prednisone earlier).

I doubt her Doctor is getting that regiment from Rogan.

tk13 12-21-2021 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16027507)
It's the reasoning that's faulty.

You don't want the vaccine because you're concerned about it's makeup but you'll take a cocktail mix of different medications that aren't normally used together without question? Medications have side effects and drug interactions are a huge concern in healthcare.

If you are asymptomatic though, I think the NFL should allow them to play. They've got to figure out something better than their current plan.

The silly part of it is people take these drugs because they don't trust pharmaceutical companies, which is understandable. I get it. But then by doing this they're arguing that Merck is sitting on a BILLION dollar wonder drug that would help control this pandemic and instead of cashing in they're telling people not to use it. Doesn't make a lick of sense. But the reality is some people just like to argue or pretend they have the "secret" answer to everything.

lewdog 12-21-2021 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16027538)
He got the information to use these drugs from Doctors who use these drugs.

My wife was positive a few weeks ago (along with me). Her doctor prescribed her monoclonal antibodies which are reserved for higher risk patients (she has high BP), ivermectin, z-pak, and dexamethasone. ( I incorrectly said prednisone earlier).

I doubt her Doctor is getting that regiment from Rogan.

I'm not refuting the safety of any of it. I'm refuting the irony of refusing one because you fear it's safety while pumping your body full of something else if you get it.

I personally take the vaccine and have been boosted, and if I got sick enough still, give me other treatments too as I do think the therapeutics are fairly safe.

I still don't get how the NFL can't see how terrible they are managing this though. They HAVE to develop a new plan and quick!

I am glad your wife is doing ok and so are you.

staylor26 12-21-2021 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16027574)
I'm not refuting the safety of any of it. I'm refuting the irony of refusing one because you fear it's safety while pumping your body full of something else if you get it.

I personally take the vaccine and have been boosted, and if I got sick enough still, give me other treatments too as I do think the therapeutics are fairly safe.

I still don't get how the NFL can't see how terrible they are managing this though. They HAVE to develop a new plan and quick!

I am glad your wife is doing ok and so are you.

A better question is, why do people like you and O.City give a **** when it worked out for him?

Marcellus 12-21-2021 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16027574)
I'm not refuting the safety of any of it. I'm refuting the irony of refusing one because you fear it's safety while pumping your body full of something else if you get it.

I personally take the vaccine and have been boosted, and if I got sick enough still, give me other treatments too as I do think the therapeutics are fairly safe.

I still don't get how the NFL can't see how terrible they are managing this though. They HAVE to develop a new plan and quick!

I am glad your wife is doing ok and so are you.

I believe the logic is you wait until you have to do it to pump yourself full of anything you aren't so sure about if you are low risk, or believe you are.

I think you know my wife and I are vaccinated.

I agree with everything else you are saying.

lewdog 12-21-2021 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16027577)
A better question is, why do people like you and O.City give a **** when it worked out for him?

I give a **** when people use faulty reasoning to justify their means. And then when people take one person's experience and claim it's "the answer," which is happening in this thread. Bleeding Red literally saying "it's proven" for so many things that aren't proven. That's all I am refuting.

I am fully onboard with the NFL not testing ANYONE unless they have symptoms at this point. It's not like the general public is testing themselves unless they have symptoms.

InChiefsHeaven 12-21-2021 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16027574)
I'm not refuting the safety of any of it. I'm refuting the irony of refusing one because you fear it's safety while pumping your body full of something else if you get it.

I think a lot of it has to do with the newness of the vaccines and the potential problems (real or imagined, whatever) that the vaccines pose, whereas these other drugs have been around for awhile, and while the effectiveness of them might be in question, their safety is not.

See the difference?

O.city 12-21-2021 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16027584)
I think a lot of it has to do with the newness of the vaccines and the potential problems (real or imagined, whatever) that the vaccines pose, whereas these other drugs have been around for awhile, and while the effectiveness of them might be in question, their safety is not.

See the difference?

What about the potential problems of a novel virus?

Monoclonal antibodies for this were developed quicker than the vaccines fwiw

lewdog 12-21-2021 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16027584)
I think a lot of it has to do with the newness of the vaccines and the potential problems (real or imagined, whatever) that the vaccines pose, whereas these other drugs have been around for awhile, and while the effectiveness of them might be in question, their safety is not.

See the difference?

I do and I won't muck up this thread further. I realize it's not the place for this argument.

Again, the league needs updated protocols because what is happening right now is silly. The NFL is quite literally the highest tested vocation in the world right now. That just makes no sense.

neech 12-21-2021 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 16027229)
Omicron is the only real vaccine. It will provide immunity with symptoms like the common cold or less.

The cure to the common cold that’s like a miracle.


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