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Mecca 09-26-2022 11:04 AM
Hey we gave up a 1 for him so they'll pay him and keep running him out there right? That's gotta be the only reason CEH is still playing.

tredadda 09-26-2022 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16490478)
The Colts have a lot invested in their line in money and picks, Kwity Paye killed him several times.
I mentioned this in the GDT, but he made Ngokue (or however it was spelled) look like Reggie White. For a guy who wants to make top 5 LT money with a ton guaranteed, he did a poor job showing why he deserves it.

Sassy Squatch 09-26-2022 11:06 AM
"didn't look bad against the Chargers". Of course he didn't look bad. Reid specifically game planned to cover him and Wylie as liabilities, at the expense of a pretty significant amount of offensive potency.

tredadda 09-26-2022 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16490487)
I’m curious what OBJ thinks of his performance and value.

I would guess that he thinks the system just doesn’t fit him, because we know he was an effective OT for Baltimore in their system. He was a mauling run blocker for them, and we can’t seem to run even with this IOL.
Unfortunately for him very few if any teams in the league run an offense like Baltimore.

BleedingRed 09-26-2022 11:07 AM
I ****ING HATE CEH
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdionXZW...name=4096x4096

This is the play he bounced and took a loss on

htismaqe 09-26-2022 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16490492)
Hey we gave up a 1 for him so they'll pay him and keep running him out there right? That's gotta be the only reason CEH is still playing.
We gave up a 2nd for him. And I don't think that matters. Veach isn't afraid to make business decisions.

htismaqe 09-26-2022 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16490498)
Unfortunately for him very few if any teams in the league run an offense like Baltimore.
And if that's the case, you let him walk.

There's no way they can give him a contract now because he simply won't accept what he's actually worth.

RunKC 09-26-2022 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16490413)
WHAT?

A 6-4 chiseled adonis that runs a 4.3 forty who's game is based on getting downfield and taking the top off a defense? You couldn't predict that'd be a good match with Mahomes?

Seemed pretty damn obvious to me.

I was pining for the guy the entire offseason. A lot of people were.

To me, it was obvious. As obvious as Mahomes was. As obvious as Pickens should've been.

But hell, what the **** do i know?

Apparently i know that sometimes you don't need to overthink shit. The people who doubted Mahomes over thought it. (Oh my god! look at his footwork! Oh my god, that'll get picked in the league!) Those who doubted Metcalf, over thought it. (Oh my gosh, did you see his cone drill? oh he can't play in this league!)
He almost had to quit football bc of a neck injury. That had a lot to do with it

tredadda 09-26-2022 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16490487)
I’m curious what OBJ thinks of his performance and value.

I would guess that he thinks the system just doesn’t fit him, because we know he was an effective OT for Baltimore in their system. He was a mauling run blocker for them, and we can’t seem to run even with this IOL.
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16490503)
We gave up a 2nd for him. And I don't think that matters. Veach isn't afraid to make business decisions.
Exactly! The only thing that would keep Veach from making that decision is if it’s more affordable to keep him than cut him ala Clark.

smithandrew051 09-26-2022 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16490498)
Unfortunately for him very few if any teams in the league run an offense like Baltimore.
True and my point is how does this guy justify thinking he’s worth being paid like the top OT in football right now?

I understand wanting to be paid that way. Every OT wants that, but does he really think his performance commands that much money?

My thought is that if he really believes that, then he’s blaming the scheme in his head.

tredadda 09-26-2022 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16490506)
And if that's the case, you let him walk.

There's no way they can give him a contract now because he simply won't accept what he's actually worth.
Yup. The biggest mistake KC could make is to cave in. His last contract that he was offered reflected the possibility of him improving while at the same time creating safeguards in case he did not. It goes to show a lot about what they really think of him long term.

RunKC 09-26-2022 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16490506)
And if that's the case, you let him walk.

There's no way they can give him a contract now because he simply won't accept what he's actually worth.
Idk what we are gonna do to replace him. Good LT’s are not exactly available.

Will be interesting to see

BleedingRed 09-26-2022 11:14 AM
SOmetimes I pray Justin Ross is that guy next year

tredadda 09-26-2022 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16490516)
True and my point is how does this guy justify thinking he’s worth being paid like the top OT in football right now?

I understand wanting to be paid that way. Every OT wants that, but does he really think his performance commands that much money?

My thought is that if he really believes that, then he’s blaming the scheme in his head.
Oh I agree with you. He might have thought KC was gonna cave based off of necessity. Veach doesn’t do that. He can continue to think what he wants, but just like Mathieu, he will get a large serving of humble pie when reality sets in and no team gives in to his demands.

ToxSocks 09-26-2022 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16490498)
Unfortunately for him very few if any teams in the league run an offense like Baltimore.
Not even Baltimore wants to run that offense anymore.

If he doesn't improve, he can go be the highest paid LT for a team that doesn't throw the ball. (pssst. There isn't any).

I'm an OBJ guy. I think i give him more rope than a lot of people. I even predicted the Chiefs would trade for him.

With that said, the Chiefs CANNOT pay him #1 LT money. He just aint that guy.

For as good as our OL is suppose to be....why is that i feel like these other QB's have more time in the pocket than Mahomes?

Why is it that when i watch Herbert and Allen they seem to have clean pockets to throw from?


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