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rabblerouser 10-12-2022 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 16525298)
Don't know whose point I'm making here but you should listen to ceelo green "**** you"



The lyrics have it with "A" but gold digger clearly has an 'er' and the word in question sounds the same when sung.

The Kanye West song "Gold Digger" rhymes digger with "****a" about 150 times. Or more.

But they're totally different words. With different meanings. Some guy who posts as Detoxing on the internet says so.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16525386)
LOL, again do it to a r blackandom person instead. I've been around black people too, that's one line you don't cross.


That's a Darwin Award nominee material

I mean, have you read my posts at all? Or are you just trying to butt in and talk shit?

htismaqe 10-12-2022 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525319)
Intent of usage makes all the difference. And you can't control someone else's interpretation of intent, so its best to just avoid it.

Also, no stranger is ever going to be your ****a, so again, it makes no damn sense. Even if the guy you're speaking too isn't offended by the word, you aint his ****a so he's gonna be like, "who dafuq is this?"

That ALONE makes it forced. It's not even the proper usage.

But now you're talking about parsing intent. Seems like the correct answer is to just not use a word AT ALL if it's up to such a complicated and subjective interpretation.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16525388)
The Kanye West song "Gold Digger" rhymes digger with "****a" about 150 times. Or more.

But they're totally different words. With different meanings. Some guy who posts as Detoxing on the internet says so.

It's not me who says so. It's the rest of the country. You're just too spiteful to figure it out.

You trying to circle the wagon because two words rhyme is some ****ing dumb shit.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16525392)
But now you're talking about parsing intent. Seems like the correct answer is to just not use a word AT ALL if it's up to such a complicated and subjective interpretation.

Yeah, that's what i said.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525319)
Intent of usage makes all the difference. And you can't control someone else's interpretation of intent, so its best to just avoid it.


Tribal Warfare 10-12-2022 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525389)
I mean, have you read my posts at all? Or are you just trying to butt in and talk shit?



It's advice for survival. I had the same conversation with a family member who grew with black people in the 60's and 70's. He said the direct opposite , never ever say that

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16525399)
It's advice for survival. I had the same conversation with a family member who grew with black people in the 60's and 70's. He said the direct opposite , never ever say that

Again, have you read my posts at all? Lol. I thought i was pretty clear.

I type a lot, so i don't blame you if you didn't. But ive covered this already.

rabblerouser 10-12-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16525365)
Kind of ironic given the source.

How many times has that guy probably ragged on liberal arts degrees and shit in DC?

Find em and post em.

I dare ya.

jd1020 10-12-2022 01:11 PM

This is pretty simple for me. If your friends are giving you a pass and you want to use the word in their presence as some kind of comradary, more power to you. But if you are unwilling to use the word in public with random people because you fear the consequences then you know it's not a non-bad word. So I'm not sure what the whole purpose is behind the whole "a" vs "er" argument.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16525399)
It's advice for survival. I had the same conversation with a family member who grew with black people in the 60's and 70's. He said the direct opposite , never ever say that

I've been called "****a" many times in my life. "What's up ****a" is common lingo. I usually respond with a "what's up foo" because again, that's how i talk. Like a ****ing mexican. Though ive been around plenty of cholos who use ****a regularly.

I use ****a sometimes. And when i do no blacks and no mexicans look at me funny. No one stops and goes, "OH MY GOSH!". It doesn't even garner a second thought.

It's quite different using it around your homies than some random stranger for reasons i've already spent too much time hashing out.

rabblerouser 10-12-2022 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525343)
Sorry i missed this.

Let me go ahead and give it the LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO it deserves.

"Multicultural studies certification" BWAHAHAHAHA

What's so funny?

Sociology major
Double minor in History and Psychology
With dual certifications in addictive behaviors and...multicultural studies.


Here, I wrote this, last semester. Got an A, from my black professor, might I add, for a term paper about how neo-liberal policies perpetuate a cycle of systemic racism that targets young Hispanc and black men that begins in school (or before, even) via the school to prison pipeline :
https://we.tl/t-ESiZOvP9Ra

I use Oakland as an example (the class was Urban Sociology)

Check it out. It's decent. Accurate. Facts check out.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525324)
****a, shut the **** up. Like i said, you can either listen and understand or you can go around mocking blacks as you've always done here.

No one asked you to like it or agree with it. I'm telling you how it is.

****a, Please (great ODB album btw, not as good as his first) I wasn't making fun of blacks, what I was doing was pointing out the inanity of your argument about "they're different words" and "I never say ****a at the grocery store to random people, but there's nothing wrong with it" bullshit justification for making yourself feel better...but it flew right over your head.

As it has always done with you around here.

You don't understand, and you don't think. You reflexively attack with your rhetoric and feelings what doesn't fit into what you have been conditioned to believe.

That's not MY ****ing problem.

Tribal Warfare 10-12-2022 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525417)
I've been called "****a" many times in my life. "What's up ****a" is common lingo. I usually respond with a "what's up foo" because again, that's how i talk. Like a ****ing mexican. Though ive been around plenty of cholos who use ****a regularly.

I use ****a sometimes. And when i do no blacks and no mexicans look at me funny. No one stops and goes, "OH MY GOSH!". It doesn't even garner a second thought.

It's quite different using it around your homies than some random stranger for reasons i've already spent too much time hashing out.



My family member was called a white n-bomb by his friends who he grew up with since elementary school. This was during segregation too, and still he never used that slur. A friend of his who he played football with was Drew Pearson's roommate at Tulsa university on a football scholarship.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525410)
This is pretty simple for me. If your friends are giving you a pass and you want to use the word in their presence as some kind of comradary, more power to you. But if you are unwilling to use the word in public with random people because you fear the consequences then you know it's not a non-bad word. So I'm not sure what the whole purpose is behind the whole "a" vs "er" argument.

Because context and interpretation matter.

I'm miffed as to why this needs explaining. I guess it's the difference in where and how and with whom we grew up.

Go ask a black person if they feel differently about being called a ****a vs ****er and see what they say.

Very, very different connotations.

jd1020 10-12-2022 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525430)
Because context and interpretation matter.

I'm miffed as to why this needs explaining. I guess it's the difference in where and how and with whom we grew up.

Go ask a black person if they feel differently about being called a ****a vs ****er and see what they say.

Very, very different connotations.

I'm miffed that you dont understand the rational reasoning that separates humans from animals that lets us process what's right and wrong, good and bad, and to come to a logical conclusion to not use a certain word.

staylor26 10-12-2022 01:24 PM

I just want to point out that many of the same people that defend Adams in the media and on social media were doing some serious pearl clutching with this one:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another angle of the fan pushing Kyle Lowry <a href="https://twitter.com/NBATV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NBATV</a> <a href="https://t.co/NG6odI0kCp">pic.twitter.com/NG6odI0kCp</a></p>&mdash; CJ Fogler AKA Perc70 #BlackLivesMatter (@cjzero) <a href="https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1136495116254961665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's funny how people react differently when the races/roles are swapped, and this one is nowhere near as bad.


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