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Urc Burry 01-12-2023 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 16729937)
Woof. Gotta strongly disagree with you on this one.

I think they're grooming Chenal for Willie's spot should Willie try to play hardball.

You don't get rid of guys like Bolton.

Naw. Chenal has some straight line speed to test well in a 40. But he doesn’t have the fluidity to be a 3 down backer. He can find himself on the field more, but I think that would be as a blitzer/DE if he can develop a little there

KCJake 01-12-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16728102)
And making overtures to extend Sneed and Gay early is absolutely a no-brainer.

Either guy may be better served to bet on themselves and I wouldn't fault them for it, but you make them tell you no if nothing else.

I'd prefer to keep these guys and trade Jones

ToxSocks 01-12-2023 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 16729963)
I'd prefer to keep these guys and trade Jones

Sneed you wanna keep. Gay though....eh. Love the player, but he's the kind of guy you let test the market if the $$$ aint right.

Bolton is the stalwart of this LB group. There's no shortage of fast LB's out there. You could replace a Gay. Sneed/Jones/Bolton are a rarer bird.

If signing Gay means you lose Bolton, that ain't it.

And count me as one that thinks Jones is mandatory.

DJ's left nut 01-12-2023 12:21 PM

Yeah, I just can't envision a scenario where this team is better over the next 3 years for having traded Chris Jones.

Maybe I just have a poor imagination...

penguinz 01-12-2023 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16730087)
Sneed you wanna keep. Gay though....eh. Love the player, but he's the kind of guy you let test the market if the $$$ aint right.

Bolton is the stalwart of this LB group. There's no shortage of fast LB's out there. You could replace a Gay. Sneed/Jones/Bolton are a rarer bird.

If signing Gay means you lose Bolton, that ain't it.

And count me as one that thinks Jones is mandatory.

Spot on with this.

Boxer_Chief 01-12-2023 03:20 PM

Bolton is not only a tackling machine but he’s the general on the field and someone opposing teams fear. Dude is a baller, always has a knack for the ball. He could use improvement in coverage but man he’s the dude and that’s the guy you gotta keep.

JPH83 01-12-2023 04:43 PM

Yeah I'd prioritise Sneed over Gay. I'm the same as a few others on Gay, would like to keep but not on big money. The athleticism is great but he's a feast or famine guy, i don't think we're ever getting the consistency we're hoping for to justify a wedge on him when it'll need to go on Bolton.

As a relative Moore enthusiast in the draft (no, I didn't think he was the BEST WR) I'm supremely comfortable with him taking Juju's role. I'd run that risk now if the alternative is big money on JJSS. I think megatron and chiefzilla are about right on him. It's a mental not physical thing imo, not sure that's more or less encouraging, but there's nothing in his college usage or physical profile that suggests to me he can't take that role and offer more. If we're desperate to spend money on a guy to fill that role as a safety blanket I'd see what Meyers is looking for. That again is a guy who does everything JJSS does and a fair amount more, despite similar physical limitations and woeful QB play. If they're drafting another WR I sure as hell don't want JJSS here.

I will never get the Watson fascination, or the repeated insistence that he's "fast". His single redeeming feature is he's cheap.

DJ's left nut 01-12-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16730558)
I will never get the Watson fascination, or the repeated insistence that he's "fast". His single redeeming feature is he's cheap.

Isiah Thomas has a theory on that one...

Megatron96 01-12-2023 06:14 PM

Dammit. Where's Skyy's burst? He runs a 4.4, right? there should be more burst. Where the heck did it go?

He does look like JJ. He can run a good route, though if you look at his highlight reels, he's playing vs. man in just about every clip, and against less-than-NFL standard athletes in most if not all of them, so of course he wins a lot, or they just play off him, which practically stealing for him.

He tracks the ball very well, and will attack it wherever it is, when he has to. But for a 4.4 guy, there's a noticeable lack of burst, which is concerning.

Man, I must be going blind, or he flashed better acceleration earlier in the season or something.

DJ's left nut 01-12-2023 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16730637)
Dammit. Where's Skyy's burst? He runs a 4.4, right? there should be more burst. Where the heck did it go?

He's just setting up blocks...

Bob Dole 01-12-2023 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 16729963)
I'd prefer to keep these guys and trade Jones

Jones is a disruptor, but okay

Megatron96 01-12-2023 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16730641)
He's just setting up blocks...

Meh. Even if that's the case in some situations, there's snaps in those clips in the OP where he's just running a route, whether it's a slant, a skinny post, whatever, and after the catch there's not much of a mid-gear burst. TBH, I don't know how that's possible when you run a 4.4; there should be a pop to the next gear, so where is it?

raybec 4 01-12-2023 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 16730649)
Jones is a disruptor, but okay

Exactly, Jones has the ability to disrupt every play he's on the field for.

Iconic 01-12-2023 07:13 PM

On the topic of Skyy, it's really too early to be saying much and I'm holding my tongue till we see how year 2 pans out... but man as it stands there's no question it stings a little watching Pickens **** shit up in Pittsburgh while Moore fumbles 404944 punts and is relatively non existent in the offense.

DenverChief 01-12-2023 09:56 PM

We have 2 starting caliber WR's under contract for next year and a second round pick that seems shell shocked/PTSD. I have a hard time believing that this coaching staff goes into next year with only 1 proven WR (MVS) and a very good potential WR in Toney. The rest os a crap shoot. I could see if any of those reclamation projects show out in the TC/PS that we shop someone but I'm not buying that we let Juju/Hardman and/or Watson walk.

Juju Smith-Shuster (26 yo)- Re-sign
Marquez Valdez-Scantling (28 yo) - Under Contract until '24
Kadarius Toney (23 yo) - Under Contract until '24
Mecole Hardman (24 yo) - Free Agent
Skyy Moore - (22 yo) Under Contract until '25
Justin Watson (26 yo) - Free Agent

Justyn Ross (23 yo)
John Ross (27 yo)
Ihmir Smith-Marsette (23 yo)
Ty Fryfogle (23 yo)


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