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raybec 4 05-03-2023 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16932459)
I've been waking up in cold sweats wondering who I'm going to bitch about with Clark gone and with my expectations that Moore will be reasonably productive.

I feel ya, Superturtle. Sometimes it's hard being a miserable ****.
You're turning to the dark side man. But, reasonably productive is pretty subjective.

staylor26 05-03-2023 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16932455)
This dude is buns and I don’t like the optics of this on the surface with the high (possible) cap hit and uncertainty about if he will start and where..

But I trust Bratt Varnch, Reid, and Mahomes to get it right.
9 mil is not high for a guy who would likely have to be a starter to reach those incentives.

tredadda 05-03-2023 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16932444)
The entire OL fell apart. Still doesn't change the fact that he was a very valuable signing.
Correct, but I was only referring to Remmers in my point. I still believe and will continue to believe that Fisher's injury in the AFCCG after the game was all but decided cost KC to lose the SB. That was the final domino to fall and resulted in a complete reshift of the line that TB abused.

FANATIC 05-03-2023 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16932465)
"He sucks" isn't a discussion. You say he's going to suck because he sucked last year. I've responded (and others) with reasons why that may absolutely not be the case AND by pointing out that we know nothing about his deal. What we know is that we don't have the space to absorb $9 million in cap charges so these incentives are almost certainly going to have to be NLTBE. And if so, since he played 13 games last year, those are likely to be SB and/or AFCCG based.

And you have repeated that he sucked last year.

Okay.

That's not a discussion. That's just bitching and wailing.
I do not think I have used the word sucks. You have the wrong guy. I am not bitching. Its an opinion. Bottom line is its not a very critical move. Cap space could be an issue.

Seems you are bitching about others opinions. Maybe its just a discussion.

staylor26 05-03-2023 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16932470)
Maybe Marpit retiring ****ed him. Maybe he just needs an absolute beast at LG to compensate for his shortcomings. We have one in Thuney. There. I was positive for a bit.
https://i.imgur.com/LYa6BYn.gif

DJ's left nut 05-03-2023 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16932469)
You realize that basically our entire OL was backups, and Remmers had to move to LT just for the SB, right?

If the Chiefs had Schwartz and the rest of the OL, Remmers would've been fine.

Again, it's not even debatable. He "sucked" then turned out to be a really good value signing.
Yeah, that OL took so many bullets and kept playing admirably. Remmers was a HUGE part of that.

Fisher was just the last straw. It was one more blow than they could take.

In a way it made what the staff (and the players) were able to accomplish that season all the more impressive.

staylor26 05-03-2023 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FANATIC (Post 16932476)
I do not think I have used the word sucks. I am not bitching. Its an opinion. Bottom line is its not a very critical move. Cap space could be an issue.

Seems you are bitching about others opinions. Maybe its just a discussion.
LMAO

Yea, that's really going to be an issue! The Chiefs have no idea how this will impact their cap situation this year in ****ing May.

Rasputin 05-03-2023 07:17 PM
We upgraded both our left and right tackles this offseason. Way to go Brute Velmore.



To the aircraft carrier

DJ's left nut 05-03-2023 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16932471)
You're turning to the dark side man. But, reasonably productive is pretty subjective.
Said it even last year when I was the Chief Moore Hater - I was completely comfortable letting JJSS walk because I thought Moore could replace him. Shit, my Sous Moore Hater - Detox - was right there with me. It was strange - the dudes that were said to hate Moore all last season were the guys yelling the loudest to start him this year.

dirk digler 05-03-2023 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16932469)
You realize that basically our entire OL was backups, and Remmers had to move to LT just for the SB, right?

If the Chiefs had Schwartz and the rest of the OL, Remmers would've been fine.

Again, it's not even debatable. He "sucked" then turned out to be a really good value signing.
Of course I remember and yes if Schwartz or Fisher would have played we would have been much better off. Remmers or Wylie at RT is fine as Pat can protect himself by seeing the rush. Don't want a turnstile at LT though and that was what Smith was last year along with committing the second most penalties in the NFL.

Once again as backup this is cool. no problem with it.

tredadda 05-03-2023 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FANATIC (Post 16932449)
Fact. You dont know that.
You said Wylie was one of the worst. Chiefs were 14-3. Im not a Wylie fan. Glad he played well in the playoffs.

These guys can be bad too. So they are worse than one of the worst? If you are suggesting they are that bad then they should not be on the roster.

20 million is left tackle money and preferable proven left tackle money.

So I like Veach. He is exceptional but not perfect. If he signed this guy Smith and is supported then the other guys he has on the roster should also be supported. Do you think KC keeps guys that are worse than the one of the worst? I dont.
Whole lotta wrong in what you just posted. Unless a coach plays favorites then the backups inherently are going to be worse than the starter. If they weren't, they would be starting. So yes, you have some of them who are worse than Wylie, hence why he started and not them. To get rid of them is foolish because then you have no depth in case Wylie goes down.

Just because KC went 14-3 with him starting does not mean they should downgrade the position because of Mahomes' and Reid's ability to adjust. Regarding the bolded part, I have zero clue what you are talking about.

FANATIC 05-03-2023 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16932482)
LMAO

Yea, that's really going to be an issue! The Chiefs have no idea how this will impact their cap situation this year in ****ing May.
I trust KC has a plan and its not based on anything here. Nobody knows what is really going on at Arrowhead.

Reid and Veach have proven they get results. I trust that.

Maybe we should just post HAPPY THOUGHTS? That would be entertaining.

ThaVirus 05-03-2023 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16932472)
9 mil is not high for a guy who would likely have to be a starter to reach those incentives.
Well I saw some stuff posted in this thread suggesting that the organization views him as a starter. He is likely to hit those incentives if that’s true.

$9m could be high for this douche. He’s like a Wylie-level player and we had Wylie last year for only $2.5m.

DJ's left nut 05-03-2023 07:22 PM
Also, isn't the most likely scenario that this is 'Taylor can't make the switch to the left side' insurance?

SHOWTIME 05-03-2023 07:24 PM
Donovan Smith may be a decent backup, but he really regressed last year once Ali Marpet retired. I wouldn't have high expectations for him.


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