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Chief Pagan 03-08-2024 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17432515)
Did I miss where all the negativity suddenly came from? Just because he hasn't signed or announced anything yet?
When he actually sat out the Detroit game, I thought it was unlikely, not impossible, but unlikely he was signing long term.

Gary Cooper 03-08-2024 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17432618)
I agree but my point is make the best decision football wise for this year to do something historical regardless of future cap issues. Yes there a downsides in the future but we have a chance to do something historical and never been done before. Who cares about the cap in 2-3 years go for it now and completely sell out.
They have a chance to do something historical even without Jones and Sneed. Not like they had a cakewalk last season with those two players.

RunKC 03-08-2024 12:21 PM
Just posted by Joel Corry. We are not paying this

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Contract package: $132.5 million/4 years ($33.125 million per year)
Overall guarantees: $90 million
Fully guaranteed at signing: $72.5 million
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/a...ing-contracts/

dirk digler 03-08-2024 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17432619)
I'm sure you're not alone, but I'm not with you. I hope the Jones deal is feasible, but if it's not, it's not. I'd love to threepeat, but breaking the bank and screwing the cap long term doesn't ensure that it happens. The only thing it ensures is the road will be that much more difficult in 2025 and beyond. The Chiefs won 3 Super Bowls by reloading through the draft and being pretty wise regarding free agency. Want them to keep doing what they're doing, even if my heart hopes that the wise move involves Chris Jones staying here.
Any other year I would agree with you. But a 3-peat is historic and we will never be in this position again, not in our lifetimes. So the question is what is that worth to you or more importantly to the team.

Anyway I didn't mean to hijack this thread so I will stop talking about it. Hopefully they can get CJ signed before Monday and get Sneed back.

DJ's left nut 03-08-2024 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17432613)
If we're getting a 1st round pick back? Let both go.

Anything less than that and I'm keeping Sneed.
I think that's where I am.

Should my asking price for Sneed depends on Jones? No. Would it? Probably.

It's theory vs reality at work, IMO.

PAChiefsGuy 03-08-2024 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17432654)
Any other year I would agree with you. But a 3-peat is historic and we will never be in this position again, not in our lifetimes. So the question is what is that worth to you or more importantly to the team.

Anyway I didn't mean to hijack this thread so I will stop talking about it. Hopefully they can get CJ signed before Monday and get Sneed back.
It would be nice to win 3 SBs in a row but if the cost is sacrificing multiple other SB victories just for one-year then it's not the way to go. You have no idea who will get injuried next season as well.

Best to think long term, especially in a physical sport like football, even if there is a lot of sentiment involved w being the first team to 3-peat. Patriots didn't take that approach and they ended up winning 6.

Chris Meck 03-08-2024 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17432620)
With Mahomes these past six years where I think BV has tried to take a balanced approach and never go "all in", the history says we've had a 50% chance to win the Super Bowl. 3/6 so far.

If you wanna be conservative and say the more balanced approach has made our chances 40-45%, cool.

Keep doing what you've been doing to stay flexible year-to-year and he's probably gonna win you at least five, and it's not like seven would surprise anyone.
Yep.

Do we want 3? Or 8?

DRM08 03-08-2024 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17432646)
Just posted by Joel Corry. We are not paying this

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/a...ing-contracts/
Agreed. Jones is probably gone. Would be pretty wild if Sneed is gone too.

The Franchise 03-08-2024 12:39 PM
Will our defense suffer without Jones and Sneed? Absolutely. Do I think they can fill those holes and still be able to win? Of course.

Sassy Squatch 03-08-2024 12:42 PM
Oh well. Kind of figured he'd at least test FA, and therefore be gone when we tagged Sneed.

O.city 03-08-2024 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17432620)
With Mahomes these past six years where I think BV has tried to take a balanced approach and never go "all in", the history says we've had a 50% chance to win the Super Bowl. 3/6 so far.

If you wanna be conservative and say the more balanced approach has made our chances 40-45%, cool.

Keep doing what you've been doing to stay flexible year-to-year and he's probably gonna win you at least five, and it's not like seven would surprise anyone.
You're not wrong, but take CJ off those teams and do we have 3/6?

The Franchise 03-08-2024 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17432692)
You're not wrong, but take CJ off those teams and do we have 3/6?
He helped us win those, yes. It doesn’t mean that we can’t win moving forward without him.

O.city 03-08-2024 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17432695)
He helped us win those, yes. It doesn’t mean that we can’t win moving forward without him.
For sure.

There's a chance CJ of the past few years is gone.

But we're kinda kidding ourselves if we think they'll just plug and play someone there and it will work out like Jones.

The Tyreek thing worked great that first year, when Pat played like Superman. Then we hit this year and.....well we all saw what happened to the offense.

I've got no problem moving on from Jones, hell, I probably would have just traded him last offseason had I known this was the way this plays out.

smithandrew051 03-08-2024 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17432692)
You're not wrong, but take CJ off those teams and do we have 3/6?
Depends on what you do with the money you spent on Jones.

These types of questions typically ignore that we’d have someone else if we didn’t have Jones. Entire drafts would be different.

We wouldn’t just not have Jones with everything else being the same.

O.city 03-08-2024 12:56 PM
I wouldn't take the money and go spend it just because. There's a reason these guys are FA's.

Pay some of your own bills with it, maybe add a few and keep drafting.


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