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MahomesMagic 04-21-2025 12:51 PM

It is scary drafting a tackle because we have not had one hit yet in the Veach era.


I know we haven't had a 1st rounder but we did spend 3 decently positioned assets so far on Niang, Morris, and Kinglsey.


Maybe the good news is we are due just like we had a run with no WR hits for a while...

el borracho 04-21-2025 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18035353)
Counting the games Rice and Worthy played in the Chiefs averaged 23 points per game and were ranked 14th in the NFL on offense in Points Per Play.

Mediocre results even with Travis Kelce a year younger than he will be this year.

Are we talking about Worthy's first two games in the NFL?

Doesn't happen with every rookie but I think most reasonable fans would agree that Worthy got better as the year went on. Sep 2025 Worthy will not be the same as Sep 2024 Worthy.

And assuming he doesn't break between now and then you can add Brown to the mix, as well.

There are a lot of reasons for optimism about our 2025 WR group.

MahomesMagic 04-21-2025 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 18036286)
Are we talking about Worthy's first two games in the NFL?

Doesn't happen with every rookie but I think most reasonable fans would agree that Worthy got better as the year went on. Sep 2025 Worthy will not be the same as Sep 2024 Worthy.

And assuming he doesn't break between now and then you can add Brown to the mix, as well.

There are a lot of reasons for optimism about our 2025 WR group.

Did Worthy get better?

I mean most rookies do but I didn't notice some huge difference.


More volume but he scored 2 TD's in his first NFL game. He wasn't a project player.

el borracho 04-21-2025 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18036285)
It is scary drafting a tackle because we have not had one hit yet in the Veach era.


I know we haven't had a 1st rounder but we did spend 3 decently positioned assets so far on Niang, Morris, and Kinglsey.


Maybe the good news is we are due just like we had a run with no WR hits for a while...

Dude... Morris has a place somewhere on the line, probably either RT or G and are you really writing off Suamataia already? Suamataia has barely played. Let's maybe give him time to develop before we throw him on the scrap heap.

staylor26 04-21-2025 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18036289)
Did Worthy get better?

I mean most rookies do but I didn't notice some huge difference.


More volume but he scored 2 TD's in his first NFL game. He wasn't a project player.

Holy **** imagine watching the entirety of last season and not seeing that Worthy got significantly better.

staylor26 04-21-2025 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 18036291)
Dude... Morris has a place somewhere on the line, probably either RT or G and are you really writing off Suamataia already? Suamataia has barely played. Let's maybe give him time to develop before we throw him on the scrap heap.

Just a year ago reeruns like him were screaming that Veach couldn't draft WRs. Now there's a new narrative.

The fact that 2/3 of the OTs were barely even in the top 100 might have something to do with it.

MahomesMagic 04-21-2025 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 18036291)
Dude... Morris has a place somewhere on the line, probably either RT or G and are you really writing off Suamataia already? Suamataia has barely played. Let's maybe give him time to develop before we throw him on the scrap heap.

I haven't written Kingsley off at all.


But he was a project player that hasn't shown he is worthy of the pick yet.

Snerd 04-21-2025 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18036258)
A draft guy that I know that actually grinds tape on these guys which I can't imagine how much time that takes but he ranked Conerly the #8 tackle in the draft. Here's his writeup





The more I read the less I like

What does this guy think of Ersery?

duncan_idaho 04-21-2025 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18036182)
If this is true he’s long gone before we even get a chance. Miami is very likely as JJ mocked here

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Multiple sources have indicated Josh Simmons&#39; knee looks great upon medical rechecks, so he passes there.” <a href="https://t.co/iTg3FNH91i">https://t.co/iTg3FNH91i</a></p>&mdash; Billy M (@BillyM_91) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillyM_91/status/1914299674212680004?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Great. Optimal outcome.

Whatever team drafts him is going to find out, I believe firmly, that despite the scans looking "good" or whatever, that he is damaged goods like every other guy who ever has had this injury.

Hoover 04-21-2025 01:37 PM

I was playing sequence with Veach and his wife the other night and that guy couldn't stop talking about Emeka Egbuka, so I think its going to be him.

duncan_idaho 04-21-2025 01:51 PM

Call Your Shot: Who will be the Chiefs first pick in the 2025 NFL draft?
 
Re: Simmons, it would be like drafting a baseball pitcher who already had thoracic outlet surgery on his throwing shoulder, in the first round.

Your medical team might be certain he’s healed and will be the same, but every bit of historical data you have would tell you he will never be the same again, even “healthy,” because his new “healthy” is less than it was before the injury.

Dunerdr 04-21-2025 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18036299)
Just a year ago reeruns like him were screaming that Veach couldn't draft WRs. Now there's a new narrative.

The fact that 2/3 of the OTs were barely even in the top 100 might have something to do with it.

He's the one. He is literally the one. He wanted an "Alpha" WR its probably why he still shits on Worthy.

RunKC 04-21-2025 02:45 PM

All on this train. Hammer pass rushers and weapons, even if you get a tackle.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> enter this week’s NFL Draft with a sour taste from the Super Bowl — but you can bet they’ll strike when the moment’s right to reload for another run.<br><br>�� <a href="https://twitter.com/TheHerd?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheHerd</a> with <a href="https://twitter.com/colincowherd?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@colincowherd</a> <a href="https://t.co/BkvtOSTq7t">pic.twitter.com/BkvtOSTq7t</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) <a href="https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1914405394304393691?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shields68 04-21-2025 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18036299)
Just a year ago reeruns like him were screaming that Veach couldn't draft WRs. Now there's a new narrative.

The fact that 2/3 of the OTs were barely even in the top 100 might have something to do with it.

Unfortunately for us, any quality ready to start LT is going in the top 20.

Snerd 04-21-2025 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 18036357)
I was playing sequence with Veach and his wife the other night and that guy couldn't stop talking about Emeka Egbuka, so I think its going to be him.

Alison is lovely, isn't she?


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