Great season ending episode. I'm hoping the next season builds off of this and keeps us guessing.

its not a season finale, its mid season, Season 2 will continue in Feb.

This only mid season. We get the rest in Feb.

They still need to address the Merle situation by the end of this season, I think. Or at least give a hint as to where he is.

With a long break between episodes like this, it outta be.

Yeah, pretty much.

And this is the real danger in the zombie apocalypse. People don't care anymore, do what they want just because they can.

I thought exactly the same thing. There were some shots in the last 5 minutes that should become iconic for the show. It's a bit of a cliche to say it, but it was like pages taken from a comic book, how it was all staged.

I figure it won't be a hint but a shocker. Thats why when I saw the tease in the preview a few weeks back I figured it was a dream or something. I also am guessing that it won't happen until they get off the barn and get to some populated area. A little unrealistic, even for a TV show, for Merle to stumble over them on this farm.

WOW, just watched this weeks episode on DVR. I did NOT see that coming.

Great ending. Still thinking about it.

I love when tv does that. So rare.

The other big mystery is what did the CDC guy whisper to Rick at the end of last season? We now know it wasn't that Laurie was pregnant. My co worker speculated that he told him that someone in his team was infected with the zombie virus.

oh man Jonathan Bernthal sounds like such a pussy in real life. Wish I hadn't have just watched that!

me too. i'm usually pretty spot on when it comes to figuring out the end of a movie, show, etc. especially when i don't have pre-knowledge.
completely caught off guard. and that has something to do with me reading the books.
i'd love to see them try and do more stuff from the novels. but realisticly, it's not possible (or probably not possible).
from now on, i'm expecting even more worse. still have hair standing on end after the show.

Thats not bad. I am not sure it would take that long unless they brought in a new strand or something but its a decent thought. I also don't think Rick would risk letting his kid sleep next to a soon-to-be zombie.

The interesting point though, is that he didn't tell Rick that Laurie was pregnant. I am glad because I thought they had been saving that like people didn't suspect when we all did. Atleast now there is some mystery to it.

Just finished and was impressed.

I thought when Dale said "you're made for this world" Shane would have said somthing more profound like "that's good because it's where I'm at, and so are you". Will be interesting to where they move the plot from here. Power strugle over the farm I'm guessing.

Poor Dale is going to die horribly. That old softie should be teaching a history class or tending a zoo, not trying to survive day to day in totally wrecked world.

I'm interested again.

Also, something I didn't notice watching the first time that they pointed out was that Glenn didn't just jump into the massacre but looked to Maggie, and surprisingly, she gave him permission to do what had to be done.

They did a pretty good job of conveying that Herschel's beliefs system crumbled before his eyes and how he was crippled/frozen by the weight of the truth. Rick sat there screaming to him "Herschel, take this!" basically telling him "All you have to do is take control of this walker, and I can make this stop", and Herschel just. let. go.

Good episode. I like how they shot the final scene to make it look like a slaughter of "innocents." They force you to sort of see it through Hershel's eyes, even though you know his point of view is wrong. Also like that Andrea didn't hesitate. She's no longer annoying.

I really thought that in this 1st part of the season, we'd see the dude and his kid that saved Rick in the 1st ep. They need to revisit that at some point, don't they?
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gonna have to wait for it (it happens in the graphic novel). at least the revisit. whether or not it transistions into the series remains to be seen. and for the record, the father was on Jericho. i really enjoyed his character there. he could bring something to the group, imo.

I love Andrea now. She's getting hot.

That last episode in the car didn't hurt her chances.

One of the things that bugs me about this show this season is their flagrant use of ammo and gas. Do you really need to have five people at a shooting range, burning through ammo, just for 'firearms training'? And do you really need to take three vehicles to get to the shooting range (which I assume is somewhere on the farm)?

thats nitpicking a litle

Only a little ;)

The comics where the same way...

The means of destruction are plentiful. The means to live and thrive, not so much. At least, that's the artistic statement I get from the constant flagrant displays of firepower (that, and it's cool to see people shoot shit).

what i wanna know is if the disease isnt airborne and you can kill the zombies pretty easily then how the **** did the entire world get infected? maybe the comics do a better job of explaining

Do not question zombie apocalypse.



In all seriousness: the implication is that people are like helpless sheep until the herds been culled. Then we figure things out and kick some ass. That's the time-honored zombie trope.

Don't do that.

Or else you have to ask other questions like...

Where are infected animals? Wouldn't wild animals, or simply packs of now wold dogs eat these corpses within minutes? What happens to their rapid decay rate? Why not just travel somewhere cold, where their bodies would freeze and break and be immobile? Why not go somewhere really hot and humid where their bodies would decay much faster and they'd be rendered immobile? The 'zombie apocalypse' would be over in 2 weeks.

The whole situation is completely impossible. If you're watching it, you shouldn't really worry about this stuff now.

In the novels, it's implied that man did this to himself when he cracked his genetic code and started to tinker around, but there is never any definitive reason as to why the dead rose.

Basically, everyone is infected. You die, you turn into a walker.

Wait a second.

Are there novels other than the graphic novels?

I thought I heard something about this.

Have you read World War Z? They the freezing scenario is a big one.

The Z's also eventually rot to the point where they can't do much.

It takes time but as long as there isn't a steady stream of new Z's you can wait it out in a well stocked underground bunker.

I re-watched season 1 the past two days off from work. And find it ironic that someone else just asked what Edwin Jenner said to Rick shortly before the CDC exploded.

does anyone who read the comics know if we will ever find out what he said to him? I don't want to know what he said.. I just want to know if we find out eventually or not, or if we're all looking into it too much and it wasn't really anything, or it actually was him telling Rick his old lady was knocked up.

also, I think Glen might be Thai. Have they addressed his nationality? What's your favorite Thai dish? Spring rolls sound good right now.

Thanks

Haven't read the comics, but I read an interview a while back where a producer said they'll release that information at some point. And that it's kind of a big deal.

you allso see that as more of them are around, the more viscous and faster they get. I think they talked about that in season 1.

I'm pretty sure they mentioned that Glen was Korean but I may be mistaken. And If anyone is interested in the comics you can get a compendium with the first 48 issues on Amazon for 30 bucks. I picked it up and read the whole thing in less than a day. Well worth the money.

they did because it think someone made a stereotypical remark about being asian and he corrected them by specifying where he was from.

read World War Z. You will like it.

Fans of World War Z should also check out Robopocalypse.

Kindle wish list, engage!

A robopocalypse sounds way worse than slow moving rotted meat bags.

Robopocalypse, you mean terminator?

That whole CDC story line was only in the show- none of that is in the graphic novels. You won't find any more detail about that interaction.

However, there is talk in the Graphic novels that everyone is already infected and that it's only the death (any death other than the destruction of the brain) of humans that causes Zombies. Once a person becomes a zombie- they can kill the living with a toxic bite. So the infection causes Zombies upon death and the toxic bite causes death. In the comics there are more than one bitten characters who slowly die from the toxin. They don't immediately zombify- they die first then zombify.

The zombies do become limited in the books when they freeze, rot or starve. That's what causes the different classes of the zomies in the comics. Biters, Walkers, Crawlers, etc.

It's not an original concept, but "Robots taking over the world" dates back way before Arnold stated, "Ah'll be baaack."

The main thing that's interesting about Robocalypse is that it has a similar narrative style to World War Z. It also chronicles how the robots (much like the zombies) initially have the advantage until human ingenuity and imagination kicks in. The survivalist aspects of these stories is what, I think, attracts many people.

I guess my sarcasm wasn't strong enough. I've seen the book and wondered if it was good. I'll have to check it out.

This just occurred to me; if Hershel rounded up Sophia and put her in the barn he had to at least suspect it might have been Carol's daughter they were going out for risking life and limb everyday to try and find.

That's pretty low and wonder if it will be brought up. Either way I think they're done at the barn one way or another.

And while I can't find the post Dale states "I'm Korean" after Daryl calls him "short round" (think he meant Indiana Jones sidekick to bust his balls) so that's correct.

Well, yeah. And Otis's dumb ass risked (and lost) his own life when he knew it was a fool's mission.

Edit: Nevermind.. that was to help out Carl, not to help Sophia.

In the last episode he told Rick that Otis rounded them up and put them in the barn. Herschel didn't know about her.

Hershel did not round up the zombies, Otis did. This is why Hershel did not know that Sophia was in the barn. Otis died before Rick's group brought up the Sophia search.

Ah, I missed that part somehow.

Dale is the old bearded guy, Glen is the Korean.

just watched it...freaking great

Shane drove it...literally thrilling the last 5 minutes...camera work, edits, everything dialed in....


wow...worth the build up


and the blonde who is now a gun master is insane hotness

this season started off great. I loved that early episode when they were stuck on the highway and the zombies started coming. The middle was pretty terrible, boring, no zombies, annoying bitches and then BAM season finale was fantastic. I hope the 2nd half can pick up where it left off and keep it coming.

It wasn't fully said except in the extra scene shown afterward on 'Hell on Wheels". It was in the show if you connected that Hershel said at the creek that Otis collected them. They never came out and said during the episode that Otis put her in there.

There are a couple sneak peeks out there of episode 2-08 and it looks to be pretty good...

Found this funny, this is the scene right before he walks up to Dale and puts his chest into the rifle. How many scene counts before they got it right do you count? :D

Gotta love HiDef

so where there be another 7 or 8 episodes in february? or will it just be a couple more to answer some questions and make us wait til next fall?

I think it's supposed to be like 12 episodes?
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I think it was 13.

13 total.

6 more.

Yup

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1520211/episodes#season-2

I just finished reading "The Zombie Survival Guide".


I give it a B.

i dunno if ill pick back up on it, this season has sucked a big one

I think they had to do quite a bit of slow moving episodes to set up some pretty big stuff. Now, I may be totally off base. And the transition from the books to tv hasn't been that close (which it can't on network tv). I'm still optimistic and willing to give another 6 episodes--although, who am I kidding. I'll watch as long as they're pushing out shows.

AMC isn't "network TV". It's cable, and the FCC doesn't have any control.

No, but they may have to make different decisions than say, HBO would, because of advertiser concerns.

I knew somebody was gonna slam my nuts in the door when I typed that. I'm typing on wifes iPad, and I hate editing with this thing.
Why don't I use this opportunity yo ask where I could buy a good cast iron cooking pan. Primarily for grilling burgers/etc.

Boom goes the dynamite! LMAO

I know it's been brought multiple times, but have you read World War Z (also by Brooks)? If not, do yourself a favor and pick it up today.

Walmart/Target/Amazon.

Just go with Lodge.

Seconded. Also, Colson Whitehead is supposed to have a "fresh" look at zombie fiction. He's a "literary" writer, so I'm curious whether anyone has read it or not. I'll probably pick it up.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct...ehead-20111030

Sounds interesting. I love zombies, but the over-hype of everything zombie these days is just annoying. Zombie walks, zombie podcasts, zombie cake pictures on Reddit, zombie computer/console games. Actually having a "fresh" take on zombies is a difficult task. Which is why I think I enjoy zombies as more of a backdrop to tell another type of story than just gory horror.

WWZ has a great view into how different people and different cultures could potentially react to a global epidemic. It also had great characters and some really cool "what if" scenarios.

The Walking Dead has good characters (although they drive me crazy sometimes), but it's mainly a survival story that looks into how you would react and behave if most of modern civilization had gone out the window.

And the gore can be fun, too. :D But it's definitely not why I watch/read zombie stories.

Already ordered. Thanks!

It's about 10 times the book that the Zombie Survival Guide is. Seriously. It's awesome.

I am a pretty tough critic when it comes to books BTW. The only book that gets an "A" that I have ever read is newest full version of "The Stand".

My problem with Zombie Survival Guide is that it's a gimmick book, to me. It's the book I point my struggling reader students to, because it's broken into small sections, has illustrations, and allows them to browse read instead of following a narrative. WWZ is an actual novel, and a badass one at that.

You summed it up to a "T".

Yeah, WWZ is like an extrapolation of the "Recorded Attacks" section of the Zombie Survival Guide. Which, by the way has one of the creepiest zombie scenarios ever...

SURELY WWZ isn't on par with The Stand?
I haven't read a good book in a while (SK's last book The Dome was ass). Guess I'll have to check it out.

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The Stand was good until the last 100 pages or so, I thought. I hated the end, just like most of his books.

It seems, and this isn't limited to King, the longer the book, the more disappointing the ending.