Is it just me, or does it seem like this team takes longer to flush than any in baseball? Look how long it took them to shitcan Franklin last year. If they'd kept him one more game there wouldn't have been a playoff run.

And HOLY SHIT, 15-0? At home? WTF :shake:

Glad I missed this one.

When Cardinal fans start booing a player they are through in STL. The fans rarely boo players during a slump. There may be a smattering of boo's at times but not the majority of fans.

I dont blame them for trying to save Greene. We all see the raw talent. We can all read the fantastic stats in AAA. But, for whatever reason, and it has to be mental, its just not clicking and its hurting the ball club. Maybe the clubhouse and majo players/leaders like him and pushing to keep giving him a chance.

It's way past time to just cut him.

Greene traded to Houston! Not sure who they traded him for.

Edit: For a player to be named later.

Or cash considerations.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/4479/tyler-greene

About tree-fiddy. That's what I would pay, not a penny more.

Whatever the deal, I say Mo absolutely raped Houston.

THIS! :thumb:

Wow, that's a pretty generous offer.

Thank God he's gone.

I hope he finds the mental part of his game. But, he should have been released last year.

**** him and his mental parts. I got my fill of that with Ankiel.

Just trying to seperate the person from what I see on the field. It's not like he was a slacker or malcontent. He just couldnt produce on the field.

Don't forget Khalil Green, Mr social anxiety

Tyler Green just didn't get it. He was quoted as saying about the booing, "Then don't come to the game. Just cheer for your team. That's all I can say about that." Cardinal fans aren't booing you because you suck. If you play hard they will cheer you to no end. Its no like Rex Hudler put up great numbers here. If you aren't living up to your potential or playing hard, you will be booed. If you are booed by Cardinal fans, you deserve it. Its not like Philly where they regularly booed Mike Schmidt.

Please tell me they won't call up Kosma over Jackson.

He was like Colby Rasmus minus the meddlesome dad and 85% of the production.

There are a long line of Red Birds that stunk out loud but were huge fan favorites on effort alone. Bo Hart wouldnt have made the bigs with any other team

Was nice to bounce back with a win today. Team could have quit after last night, glad to see they didn't.

The Reds have been faltering a bit lately, and they need to take advantage of that.

Getting your ass handed to you in a 15-0 slaughter isn't the way to go about it.

Holliday with a big knock.

Wonder if Frazod was watching? :Poke:

Luckily I wasn't. He'd have struck out. :D

LMAO

That damn choker Holliday at it again.................

Seriously though they guy is having a hell of a season and Stl needs that if they are going to have a chance to snag a WC spot.

losing 2 out of 3 at Philly doesnt help. But, we are still only 2.5 out of the wild card with a helluva lot of games left to play.

Siegrist had a nice start last night in Springfield (5 inning no hitter). A 6'4 lefty that can hit the mid 90's with his fastball should get him a longer look as a prospect. I had read earlier that Dennis Martinez (now coaching at Palm Beach) was really high on him, but all I had read on him earlier was he was a mid to high 80's guy with decent stuff coming out of college.

Here is the link to the story:

ttp://www.news-leader.com/article/20120816/SPORTS02/308160028/Springfield-Cardinals?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports

I saw Siegrist pitch in Frisco back in July. Dude was ridiculously inconsistent. One minute he's unhittable, the next he's giving up moonshots.

He's got the talent. We just need to see it consistently.

He's 23 now so hopefully he starts to feel a little urgency. If he sticks at AA the rest of the year it would provide a better view of his potential.

Well, I believe we are tied for the WC lead right now. Need to keep playing well.



I think we can run down the Reds.

Mr. Clutch at the plate here.

.265 WRIP.

Frazod must have been watching, :rolleyes:

If we win tonight are we not in a 3 way tie for the wild card lead?

Well, we might get beat because Motte gave up back to back homers on his third best pitch.

thats on Cruz. WTF is he doing calling all that junk? Throw the heat and every once in a while throw the cutter to throw off their timing. That was pathetic. You could see that coming. Even Harbosky could see it coming.

Terrible Terrible loss tonight.

:facepalm:

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/20...l-whatever.jpg

Ugh.

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That was the #Cardinals 20th one-run (loss) of the season. They are 12-20 in one-run games

Getting intresting Cards up 2 against pirates w/ bases loaded no outs.

Well yeah for the good guys, but way to close for comfort again.

Mutt nearly blew another yesterday. Close shave.

But Molina showed why he is the MVP on the team. Adding his new found hitting talent to managing the pitching staff and blocking everything in the dirt.

We as fans should give it up to Mo, what do you think Molina would get on the FA market now? It would have cost us more now. Props are due. We arn't the Royals but we still don't have tons of money to over pay for contracts.

Don't look now but we are tied for the Wild Card lead, 13 games over .500 and 6 games back from the Reds.

Need to continue this series and sweep the Reds.

We're still a game and a half behind the Braves. #1 wild card will get that game at home. MLB really expects the wild cards to fail. Having to burn your ace on a one game playoff is going to really limit the wild card. Better to just beat the Reds straight up.

Some ugly managing last night but they bounced back nicely today.

Don't tell Frazod but Holliday was clutch today and money this weekend.

Last year at this point we were 10 games out. We had to have the Braves also collapse. Not neccessary true this year. We are only 6 games out and the last 3 games of the year are home against the Reds. That is a huge difference.

Holliday is now the NL leader in RBI. What a choker. LMAO

7th in batting. Tied for 9th in Home runs. That doesn't suck.

Cool. Maybe if he keeps it up into the playoffs and doesn't start shitting himself at the plate and dropping easy fly ball outs, I'll actually start to like him.

I'm just busting balls. The anger that I felt after the ball hit him in the gut and then he is out there casually eating sunflower seeds like its no big deal.:cuss: has cooled a not but its still there.

But he has since proven himself to be a consistent ball player. You can count on at least .300/25/100 out of him every year.

People just look at that contract being the biggest in club history and expect ridiculous things and ignore the facts of the market. Its the same $/yr average as Alfonso Soriano signed for in 2007 and its less than Jayson Werth signed for in the same year. He can drive you crazy sometimes but you have to take the good with the bad and there is a whole lot of good there. And lets not get started on the Crawford contract.

Cutler's reaction after getting knocked out of the Bears/Packers playoff game a couple of years ago reminded me of Holliday. He's got a knee injury bad enough to keep him out of the game, yet what does he do? He just stands on the sidelines. Stands. By himself. Not talking with the coaches or the backup QB trying to the win game. With that glazed Cutler look on his face. Like nothing important is going on around him and he doesn't have a care in the world.

C'mon now, he at least doesn't sulk like Culter****er.

Jesus ****ing Christ. They get up by 2.5 in the wildcard and then get blown out 3 consecutive games.

Beltran's really hurting us.

He's flat out giving away 75% of the ABs he takes. Weak swings, shit contact, soft grounders to 2b on the first pitch (if he's lucky enough to make contact).

With a whopping 8 walks since the All-Star break, he's clearly taken that HR derby nomination to heart. He's just a wild hacker and needs to be dropped in the order until he wakes the !@#$ up. This offense can't carry a black hole in the middle right now.

There are several guys swinging at a lot of bad pitches. They made Jackson, a mediocre pitcher at best, look like Cy Young last night because they chased every curve ball in the dirt.

Yeah, but Beltran's been doing it for 8 weeks now.

The other guys will come around; slumps happen. Beltran, OTOH, is not in a slump. He's changed his approach and has turned into a dogshit player on account of it. That or he's more hurt than he's letting on.

In either event, I wouldn't expect him to come out of it.

They're effectively playing their way out of the post season.

As of right now they are still in the playoffs.

playing like the last 3 games yeah, but we still got a ways to go. I 'll take waino in a winner take all against anyone. Once you get in the playoffs, you never know how it will turn out. Every year that you are successful someone unexpected steps up and pitches the game of their lives. Kelly and Garcia are very capable of giving us 7 strong innings. Loshe 7-8. Maybe Miller or rosenthal step it up?

If we get past the first round, we would have waino for two games again.

I found out that the whole state of Iowa is in the blackout area for the Cardinals, Brewers, Twins and Royals so whenever one of those teams plays on Wednesday on ESPN, the game is blacked out.

Furcal apparently out for the rest of the year. Needs elbow surgery. :banghead:

Wife just heard this while watching the Braves/Phillies game. No link. Blow me.

WTF has happened to this team? How can a team this talented fall off the cliff this fast?

I know historically that teams just dont repeat as World Champs but damn, this is ugly right now.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb

Club put him on DL and recalled Pete Kozma from Triple-A.

Well, at least they had the decency to win a championship before they collectively shat themselves.

My other teams skip the championship part and go right to the shitting. :spock:

Add another shutout to the party - 10-0 loss. That's one whole run scored in the past four games. :shake:

This team is too streaky. They don't build on success, they bury it. If what everyone is saying about Beltran is true, he should be meeting with McGwire.

What are they saying?

Yeah suck it fraz. My Orioles are about to enter the playoffs. And my first beloved team the Chiefs, well you saw what they did against Arizona.

Boy did they need that win today.

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I'm happy to see your Orioles playing well. I remember the late 60's and early 70's watching the O's. Maybe we can play each other again someday.

It would be huge to whip up on Strasberg today and build on yesterdays win to gain some momentum back.

Looks like Lynn is completely ****ed since the AS break. Hopefully its more of a worn down from starting thing and not something that carries into next season. For those able to watch the game has his velocity dropped from earlier in the season?

No, it's location and lack of movement on the fastball. At the first of the season he would miss location but it had late movement and the batter didnt center the ball. Now they are getting solid wood on the ball.

Any one get to see Miller pitch today?

Seems to have went well.

I dont know WTF is with us and SD but you kill us in the regular season and we kill you in the post season.

Beltran needs to be batting 8th. He is useless right now. I would rather have Joe Kelly batting in a clutch situation.

He needs to be on the DL.

Putting him 8th only moves the black hole down in the order and creates a situation where the pitcher is leading off more.

Matt Carpenter is a far better hitter than Beltran is right now and isn't much worse as an OFer. Beltran's crap - absolute, unadulterated, unfiltered crap. He's worthless in every way, shape and form. He can't run, he can't hit and he won't take a goddamn walk.

And of course Matheny's answer to this problem was to move him up in the order.

Get him off the !@#$ing field. We don't have time to hope he just comes out of an 8 week long funk at this point.