I didn't expect Geno to win the job in camp anyway. I expected him to take over in the second half of the season.

How can it be on if one is a starter and other is a backup to Mark INT Sanchez. Clearly someone you think is better then Cam can beat out Sanchez right?

Everytime time Smith(Alice) sucks up the joint, the Geno-haters are going to FURIOUSLY dig through the intrawebz to find ANYTHING to counter in hopes of lessening their painful butthurt.

Epic season ahead.

Considering he plays on the biggest media market in the US, people won't need to look hard

Hope!

Rex: "It seems there's an assumption (Geno) will not play in this gm. That decision has not been made." Says Mark will play 1st half #jets

Same old Jets.

Hope is for losers...

Hope is for youth, not well-established, check down hackneys.

You don't need hope. You already got a better player than last year. You just have to understand what he is. He's a careful QB. He doesn't like the interception.

We don't need hope because we'll never get any as long as Alex is the QB.

Careful QBs don't win shit in this league

He's a "careful QB." This might be my favorite new euphemism for "mediocre game manager."

I shall use it in the future.

Win? What are you trying to win? More games than last year? I'd say almost definitely you do. Better QB play than last year? Almost certainly.

Win the Super Bowl for the Chiefs this year? Your team is not good enough.

Alex Smith went 13 - 3 in 2011 and would have played in the Super Bowl if Kyle Williams didn't drop 2 punts. 1 in the 4th quarter and 1 in overtime. People forget that. But they were up in the NFC Championship game in the 4th quarter. And they would have gone to the Super Bowl with Alex Smith as the starting QB if they could catch punts.

this has never been debated here.


Go **** yourself
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You are a cool guy and quite the class act I see.

Can't debate football huh. So you resort to personal attacks. Just talk about football if you have something to say. I don't talk to you like that.

you are a dumb**** because you think you are breaking see new news here.


We have debated that shit for months. Why should we hear it from you again?

Just go away with your tired excuses
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Who is looking for an excuse? People are massively overreacting. Alex played great vs. the Saints. So everybody is looking at 1 game vs. the 49ers. He didn't really do that bad there either. He hit several WR's right in the hands in full stride and they flat out dropped it. He's far better than what you had. He's going to need a team around him like any QB. He won't carry the team to the top by himself. But he's still an upgrade.

If that's what is being talked about why are you bringing up a playoff game from two years ago?

Go away
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I'm a long time reader and a first time poster here but, I got to say something here.

This whole Geno Smith thing is really stupid.

The guy had a nice little winning streak for a few games last year. Before that he looked like a 2nd or 3rd round pick. After that he looked like a second or third round pick. Since the winning streak there hasn't been anything good about Geno Smith. He showed poor leadership when his team started losing. He has no personality whatsoever. He got drafted where he should have and no NFL team was fooled by his agent's hype. He looked stupid in Mooch's workshop. He didn't go to Sanchez's mini camp in California. He showed up out of shape to training camp. Rex Ryan killed him in the press for a bad practice. When is the time Rex did that to a player? He never did it to Tebow or even Gholston.

I can't believe the stupid excuses. People bitch that people will make excuses for Alex but, talk about race and "rookie" when talking about Geno at the same time?

I have no idea how there is even a poll comparing Alex Smith to Geno Smith.

People who are gaga for Geno should just trade for him on Madden and keep their alternate reality to themselves.

If I were in charge I would end the Geno talk. It's reeruned.

I just needed to vent.

Can we ship Claynus to the Jets boards? It's ****ing pitiful.

Even the Jets aren't that gay...nttawwt

This sums it up perfectly, as far as I'm concerned. These same posters also seem unable to tell the difference between FFL/Madden and the real NFL.

Back in my day, we used to hope for a Superbowl trophy, not that trophy they give to the quarterback that compiled the most yards through the air travel distance pass completion yards metric thingamajiggy. I don't even know what that trophy is called.

Dinny

There are several other boards for people that don't know their head from their ass when it comes to football. I suggest posting/lurking there. You'll fit right in.

Or the big play.

Actually, quite a few people have said, repeatedly, that Alex Smith isn't a QB that can take a team to the SB. Since he almost did that is laughable, but typical CP hyperbole.

He won't take THIS team to ****ing Dairy Queen, much less a SB.

Jake Plummer almost did, too.

Jake Plummer didn't love football and quit while in the prime of his career.

Don't fool yourself: He was a very talented football player that had no interest in football. If he had, the sky would have been the limit for him.

Other shitty QBs that lost Conference Championship/SB Games:

Shaun King
Kordell Stewart
Rex Grossman
Mark Sanchez
Vinny Testaverde

It means jack that Alex got there and pissed his pants.

Pissed his pants? Really?

****ing revisionist history, but then again, what else is new?

I'm truly at the point where I can't tell if you're trolling or you really don't understand a ****ing goddamned thing about the game of football.

He didn't "piss his pants", nor did he lose the game for them.

Have you ever made a post that wasn't either filled with ridiculous hyperbole or an outright lie?

He completed less than 50 percent of his passes and the team was 1-12 on third down.

Ill go with this.

Yeah, that's just shitty QB play.

Come on man, that's just cherry-picking...

And the week prior, Matt Ryan scored zero points against the same exact defense.

Will Alex Smith ever play in another conference championship game?

Would you care explain why a Tom Brady led offense put up LESS points than an Alex Smith led offense one game later?

Who knows?

This guy right here!

ROFL

You are forgetting what they did to Aaron Rodgers as well.

Shut down

Matt Ryan,
Aaron Rodgers,
Alex Smith,
Tom Brady.


One of these is not like the other, yet one of those didn't have a turn over, and was working with far less than the other three.

But, its all Alex Smith. We all know hes not as talented as the other three, was working with LESS than the other three, yet, he should of overcome that.

And a few months after that playoff game, the Giants destroyed Alex Smith AGAIN.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...1210140sfo.htm

Funny how that works.

Shitty QB.

I blame Gronk.


Kinda.

Awesome.

I blame Welker, and Bradys Wife.

Nao posso dar culpa pra giselle; ela eh brasileira.

:hmmm:

He may. None of us know. You certainly don't, even though you are sure you do.

Why did the 49ers go 13-3 in 2011.

They had a historic run defense, breaking records back to 1911. They gave up their 1st rushing TD and 100-yard rusher in game 16.

The kicker had an MVP year, hitting on 44 field goals, 11 more than the second place kicker. Alex kept killing drives on 3rd down, but Akers just booted field goals from mid-field.

The kicker by HIMSELF scored some 166 points.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...ints/year/2011

Frank Gore ran for 1200 yards with 8 TDs.

How soon you forget HOW the 49ers got those 13-wins. Dave Akers, the FG kicker, won more games than Alex did, by a long shot.

Greg Cosell agrees that Alex Smith lost the NFCC game against the Giants.


"While Williams publicly shouldered the burden of defeat, it was his quarterback who failed to deliver on the promise..."



http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/01/24/c...e-a-week-made/

And completed only 1 pass to a WR all game.

Because he didn't have Frank Gore or a rushing attack.

Because Brady's defense couldn't get Eli off the field.

It is clear to anyone that watched that game that if Alex Smith had done anything at all, the 9ers win that game. He had plenty of chances. I fully admit that Smith did more against the Saints than I thought he ever could. They were a terrible defense but that was still clutch. That game against the Giants however was more around what I think of when I think of Smith.

It is clear to anyone but an Alexsexual that Alex underperformed in the NFCC game. Several 49ers players made mistakes or blew plays, but Alex is clearly among them.

I have always hated Eli for being a baby and refusing to go to the Chargers, like I hated Elway for the same thing.

Eli took a hellacious beating, yet came up clutch at least twice in the 2011 NFCC game. I have nothing but respect for him now.

Here are some pictures of the human lawn dart during that game ===>

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/...49/25rdmqp.jpg

http://www.draftpacks.com/wp-content...12-560x448.jpg

http://billycstephens.files.wordpres...pg?w=513&h=331

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/10/14/30...19/628x471.jpg

http://cbssacramento.files.wordpress...3970.jpg?w=620

He will make some big plays. But not as many as some gunslingers because he is risk averse. Keeping the turnover ratio in the + for you is a proven way to win though.

This thread is hilarious.

Geno cant beat out out butt fumble and Clay is flipping his script now to "hope".

Alex Smith gets zero credit for the games he has won, the FG kicker moved the ball and Gore's 1200 yards and 8 TD's were more important than Smith's contributions.(1200 yards is an amazing total for a RB over 16 games)

Brady lost to the Giants because he didn't have a rushing attack, Alex smith sucks because he has to have a rushing attack.

Do you guys even read the stuff you post?

Eli Manning had 58 pass attempts that game.

12 QB hits and 6 Sacks. That's only a little high based on his attempts. The footing had to suck for a pass rush in that weather and the refs appeared to help too with 1 holding call and it was a run.

And of course a game like this is Alex Smith's fault when he attempted only 24 passes.
The Ravens tied a franchise record with 9 sacks against the 49ers Thursday night. Five of the Ravens' sacks came when they sent 5 or more pass rushers. Eight of the Ravens' 9 sacks also came with 5 or more defensive backs on the field.
Also 12 QB hits by the Ravens.


Eli's 316 Yards in that game? WOW

His YPA was the same as 2011 Blaine Gabbert.

His yards per completion was just ahead of 2011 Christian Ponder.

Eli Manning didn't miss any chances to make plays with his 26 incompletions? He was lucky 1 or 2 weren't INTs.

And the Giants punter didn't have 12 punts.

The conditions for offense was bad. The weather was bad and the defenses were on their A games.

Both QBs did the bare minimum.

The Giants were 22% likely to win as they were punting in the 4th, It glances off a leg. They recover and are 46% likely to win.
2nd fumble spikes from 52% to 95%.

Of the four plays that increased New York’s win probability the most, Manning was a part of zero. Of the eight plays that decreased New York’s win probability the most, Manning was a part of six.

Geno getting all the 1st team reps Saturday.

Jets want him to win the job.

This thread is just one big attention whore, it would be best if we ignored the whole thing.

Please.

Tracking our game manager retread vs the potential franchise QB we had a chance to pick is a very worthwhile endeavor.

It just screams BUTTHURT and ANAL LEAKAGE.

Absolutely.

The point of the thread is to find out how warranted our collective butthurt will be.

EVERYBODY had a chance to pick him, and EVERYBODY passed in the first round.

It would have been stupid to take him at 1.1. But you would have done it. ROFL

this is a tired argument.

Teams are right quite often. But they are wrong pretty often too.

the story hasn't been written yet.
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32 teams out of 32 disagree with you and Clay.

Hell, they haven't even decided to name him the starter yet on a team with Mark Sanchez as the only competition.

I don't care.

I formed an opinion on this talented young man long before the draft.

Post-RGIII/Luck draft climate doesn't affect me, only scared NFL teams.

Really? 32 teams think the book has been written?

I didn't make any predictions. Tim Brady wasn't drafted in the first. He's just one example...
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of course they do. it will be a test, though only exhibition game. I'll be watching.

This shit again? Quarterback stats never tell the true story.

Eli Manning drove the offense down the field when they needed him to and made this third downs.

Honestly, end of story.

Breaking down NFL Championship Game:

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ay.html&page=2

Fast Google - I must admit that I did read past the first paragraph - what's the use?


Alex Smith has a new team and new head coach...I would focus on that...



Edit: Who is ViporVisor? Chiefs fan or 49ers fan?

I hope he is not a 49ers fan - I do not take kindly to their whiny BS.

Dude. Tebow isn't that good, come on man.

That isn't what I said. If you had a point you wouldn't need to misrepresent my post.

Thanks for being the only non delusional 9er fan on the internet.

You said I was wrong while quoting a post where I said the book hasn't been written.

Teams are wrong quite often was the point. He's a rookie. His career hasn't really gotten going yet.
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Yeah, lets not forget.

Braylon Edwards, cut mid season.
Josh Morgan, hurt in garbage time against the Buccs.

Don't forget to mention that little thing known as the lockout........new coaching. Nah, none of that mattered. Just all Alex Smith huh?

No dropped passes? No missed blocks? Chilo Rachal must be a hall of famer huh?

For a guy, who claims to be glad of being rid of Alex Smith, and hated talking about him, you spend an awful lot of time trying to run him into the ground.

Yeah, Alex Smith is not a great player, but for you to say that he had nothing to do with that 13-3 record, like him running camp Alex and giving the team a jump start on the playbook didn't help with that, nor the 6 come from behind victories that season, is just more propaganda from you in your hypocritical evaluation and biased opinion. You love Kaep, you don't like Alex Smith, so every piece of filth that comes out of your mouth is worthless.

And yes, I am talking strictly football.

Crabtree didn't take part in Camp Alex, Crabtree didn't take part in preseason, Crabtree got hurt week one, and didn't play week two.

Vernon Davis himself said he didn't know the play book till week 10.

You seemed to of left out an entire lot of variables to why the offense might of been slower than a defense that was absolutely STACKED.

But, I know the answer to this. Any qb could of done what Alex Smith did.

Any qb could of run Camp Alex, limited the turnovers, and run an offense that was pathetically weak at wide receiver. That's why the 49ers the last two years have been trying their best to find receivers.....

This isn't personal, this is just truth, something you conveniently always leave out.

This.

why do you want to torture yourself lol.

When Geno shines its just going to hurt worse.

The chiefs need to learn, and I love to hate!

hahaha. Fair enough

Sure but only on the 2 TD drives earlier in the game. Converted and moved the chains ended in TDs.

After being tied up 17-17...

3rd and 9 at NYG 21 - E.Manning pass short NOPE

3rd and 15 at NYG 21 - E.Manning pass incomplete NOPE

3rd and 4 at SF 46 - E.Manning pass incomplete NOPE

3rd and 6 at NYG 34 - E.Manning pass incomplete NOPE

3rd and 3 at SF 46 - E.Manning sacked NOPE

2nd Kyle Williams fumble

Your make believe didn't happen.

In the end, all Alexcuses.

Sometimes communication on the internet seems just futile.

Somebody gives the lion's share of credit to Alex Smith for a 13 win season.

Somebody else gives Alex some but lesser credit, a minor role.

Somebody else says that guy gave Alex no credit.

It is like nobody listens to anybody.

Shakes head. Yet if anyone was to blame Kaepernick for the failure that was last season, you guys would throw a fit. I guess we call those Kaepexcuses.

The bottom line is that no player has ever been responsible for the success or failure of an entire team.

There are no Alexcuses here. I willingly admit that his limited ability set back some of offense. But every other reason, not excuse that I provided is valid.

And I don't care that you wont acknowledge it.

Just with your view of Alex Smith, then Kaepernick was the reason the 49ers lost their first super bowl.....Congrats. We have had two failures at qb the past two years. lets just hope Kaepernick can make a 5 yard pass this year.