Tribal, as a guy that sees you as a friend of sorts...can I make a honest suggestion?

Take a break from this for a month or two.

We all have a certain level of emotional investment in this team and sometimes those emotions have a way of getting in the way of our enjoyment of the team.

Alex Smith is probably gonna be this teams starter for the foreseeable future and with the love affair Andy Reid has for him, that's probably a good thing. If Alex can get over the mental hurdles of going from a game manager to a franchise quarterback (and I think he played at that level after the bye) then this team is gonna win big games with Alex at QB.

I don't necessarily mean to single you out on this (even though that's what I did) as I think this applies to quite a few posters here...my apologies if this isn't taken as a good hearted observation.

Taking a break from the situation might help you get back to why you like the Chiefs in the first place.

This guy isn't Elvis Grbac
He isn't Steve Bono
He isn't Matt Cassel

We might actually have a winner here.

Try to enjoy it.

It's amazing that this topic is still going on

No Avery, no Charles, bowe had a fractured foot +alledgedly+ then lost davis. No idea why the offense didn't show MOAR.

Your bias is shining through. You're pitiful to be honest that you sit there and beat the same drum over and over.

How could Alex Smith blow a lead that he gave the defense? How is the first 350, 4 TD game ever in a loss, not good enough?

It's not good enough for people, like you, who have the opinion of a 3-year old.

Just say you don't like the guy and never will. Everyone can see through your bullshit. It would be easier than posting the complete nonsensical bullshit that you do on a daily basis.

I'm shocked that you haven't posted about the psychological aspects of the quarterback position in this thread yet since you know all about them because your dad played the position in high school 30 years ago.

He's definitely not trolling. He's that mentally crippled.

I heard he is looking for Kershaw type $$. Something to do with dealing with a reeruned fanbase.

I'm beginning to believe no QB will ever be good enough for a certain contingent of this fan base.
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Geno would get a long leash. In fact, for some, I think they'd still trade Alex for Geno right now.

Good.

Weird?

I think I've seen every sorry ass excuse for that loss now.

Injured player
D Coordinator Sucks
Bowe's foot
Alex played well enough to win
Andy Reid can't manage a clock
Ball lost in lights
Not getting reps with a backup to get timing

The bottom line is NOBODY stepped up to make a play when it mattered the most. Excuses get old. Hell, teams have won the SB with backup QB's.

You didn't mention two important excuses.

Luck both figuratively, and literally. And Kendrick Lewis.

For a life long Chiefs fan luck is as real as Luck. We have neither.

That playoff loss was the perfect storm of everything ****ed.

Fyp

ROFLROFL:clap::clap:

Wouldn't say excuses. What I've found interesting is that after that loss where so many things had to go wrong for an almost unprecedented collapse, that people seem to lay blame where they thought we were weak before the game. If you hated our safeties, they're to blame, if you never liked Smith, he fell apart at the end and cost the game. A radio show host never liked Andy Reid and so blamed his clock management and play calling.

Yes, I'm in the, blame the D camp. Smith and the Jamaal Charlesless O did their job. My opinion.I don't think it's fair to say, hey offense, you need to go from great to extraordinary to make up for the D giving up a 28 point lead, or you'll cost us the game.

Brandon Flowers getting held out of that game cost us. He held TY Hilton in check until he left. Then, disaster.

The only way it could get worse is if we are up 45-3 in the fourth quarter and we lose. So we have that going for us, I guess.

I blame Dexter McCluster because McCluster

I guess what I'm trying to say is that we have reached the absolute bottom of the barrel not only in duration of not winning playoff games, but in different ways of losing them, and there is nowhere to go but up from here.

Right?

This topic is still going on over on the 49ers board - and Smith is a year removed. Haters gotta hate.

Haters are correct until he wins at least one playoff game.

A certain fan in Belton's girlfriend washed his lucky game day Chiefs underwear.
I hope he comes to grips that he has to ATM her mother and sister before training camp.

He has won a playoff game. He is 1 for 3 and honestly has played Great in 2 of them and only good in one of them. Look at his playoff stats in 3 games, there isn't anyone on the planet that wouldn't take those numbers for their QB.

ROFL

It even goes beyond Flowers. The Flowers loss hurts because of the exact reason that you stated. But we lost Avery....which took away any deep thread we had. And I won't even bring up Charles because that one is obvious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUum2i4WCwU

That was a great game, where were you?

fixed your post

WOW

You would think they would be talking about the little game they have coming up this Sunday

Oh there is plenty of talk about that as well. It's just one or two threads about Smith, but the debate rages on. Reminds me of the Montana/Young debate in some respects. And I'm not saying that Smith or Kapernick are at the Montana Young level - not yet anyway, but the polarization of the debate sounds similar.

It's very possible that Alex Smith is our Steve Young.

Both guys didn't fully "get it" until they were about 28 or 29 and then, things just took off for them.

Interesting analogy.

I don't know if he's going to turn out as good as Young but I do think he's closer to Young then Bono and Grbac

I have little memory of Young. Other than the Super Bowl on DVD and the OWENS game.

Young seemed like he was a guy that would thrive in any decent situation.

Was labeled the most accuracy college QB by Gill Brant I think. Awesome athlete.

But then in the NFL as an old rookie, 24yo, he kinda sucked.

1st 671 passes...
53.4% 24 TDs 24 INTs
getting sacked a bunch

Alex Smith seems like he would of been great in the tutor for years under a HOF coach and QB role.

Smith in his life at QB had never been put on an island to take his medicine. HS and College it was manage a system efficiently.

In the NFL he was screwed over by his team and then he didn't allow himself to play loose and when the young QB mistakes come, learn from them.
He played knowing things were gonna F up and still tried to put toothpaste back in a tube anyhow.

That and injuries pushed his development backwards about 3 years.

There are light years between Bono and Grbac. Grbac was a very prolific passer, he just isn't worth a shit as a leader. Bono just dink and dunked to a probowl.

What is this obsession around here to win a playoff game? Only the Champ matters in pro sports. Number 2 may as well be last place, Just as Jim Kelly. We should want to be champ not settle for a playoff win. When Kap wins it all then he will be better than Alex.

Not really. Young's light went on once he was handed the starting job. I'm sure it would have went on much sooner if he didn't ride the bench for 4 years. I don't think there is an analogy for Alex Smith.

Young started 14 games his 2nd year with Tampa :facepalm:

Which is why I said 4 years instead of 6 years :facepalm:

Young and Smith are very similar in their approach to the game, too.

Mobile pocket passers that would kill you with their mobility if the defense s in man coverage with their back to the quarterback and everyone is covered.

Maybe all we need to get Alex Smith is a Jerry Rice.

this place never fails to disappoint

I remember my first beer.

What actually happened is that the person in charge told the guy that put in all the work to take the weekend off and asked the useless bastard to finish the work.

cracks me up that we are comparing Smith to Young now. LMAO

Because you have to win a playoff game and then a few more to play for a championship.

When my child is born in a few months, I want him to be able to sleep through the night and walk immediately, but in order to have that happen he's going to take a few 4 hour naps each day and eventually crawl to reach that goal.

I hope kaep never wins shit. Horrible role model. Punk attitude. Bad puts himself above others.

What makes him a horrible role model?

The guy's charitable efforts are amazing to be honest.

Anyone saying Smith needs to be extended is saying they think Smith can take us to the Super Bowl. Otherwise why would you extend him? You don't extend him to make us average or competitive.

Thats great but he looks like, acts like, speaks like, and dresses like a thug in interviews and other things. Sorry but thats my perception of him.

Happy he is charitable but when he finally starts acting like the leader of a team and presenting himself as such I might change my mind on him.

A thug? LOL

You're ****ing ridiculous.

He's ok, I don't care much for some of his on the field antics, but he seems like a decent guy.

Sorry, but I expect a team QB to dress respectable. i.e. Brady, Manning, Smith, Rodgers, etc.

that backwards hat and speaking yo yo last week pushed him over the edge for me.

so guess what, YOU get over it.

Welcome to middle america, bad guy.

He was wearing gear from a 13 year old aspiring designer to give him some exposure.

I don't really care if my qb is doing blow of hookers titties at half time, wolf of Wall Street style, as long as he performs on the field.

Do you sit on your porch and chase kids off your yard too?

So because he has tattoos and wears his hats backwards makes him a poor role model?

I feel sorry for you.

OK:thumb:

LMAO No ****ing shit! Holy hell.

Oh boy.

I started liking Kaepernick in earnest watching that post game interview against the Packers early in the season when he was talking about the Packers trying to intimidate him. The quote was something like "If intimidation is your gameplan, then you better find a better gameplan", or something close to that. That's what I want to see out of the leader of my team.

I'll take Smith over Kap any day!

absolutely

He has been a winner at quarterback for the Niners and has found himself in exactly zero trouble while in the league. His team responds to his leadership, and he helps out in his community. We need more thugs like that in the world.

Kerry Collins looked and dressed the part of a starting NFL quarterback, and was a womanizing drunk early in his career. Or how about Roethlisberger? He looks like a stand up respectable white boy quarterback, as well. Would you place more respect on one of those guys because they look the part and don't say "yo" in interviews?

Yeah, who needs a player like Kaepernick anyway? Back to back NFC title games, SB appearance in his first 2 years.

Now if he turned that hat forward, and lasered off some tats, you'd all love him.

No one in their right mind would take Alex Smith over Kaepernick.

I would. Kap isn't that good. He isn't a great qb. His team is loaded. Best online dominant running game great defense. You saw what Joe Montana said about him?

Kaepernick is still struggling with reads, and he clearly missed Crabtree.

But at the end of the day, he makes big plays and leads his team to wins.

He does look like a thug, but what matters most is who he is, not what he looks like.

So, basically you don't like him because he is black?

I'm having a hard time finding anything besides that in the reasons you're giving.

WTF? The color of his skin doesn't mean shit to me you race baiter.

He's not black.

I want the whole package. In answer to your question, no, I would not like them either. If you bothered to notice the list of QBs I do respect.

Read back through your comments.

He says he is. Wonder who we should believe.

Not once did I EVER saying anything about the color of his skin. That is all on you. My comments have nothing to do with the color of his skin.

You are reading way too much into it and applying your own personal bias to it.

According the the media, he is half African American and half European and was adopted by a white couple in Wisconsin.

He is an American.

You listed a bunch of "negatives" that are staples of the black community and then listed a bunch of white quarterbacks he should be more like.

Probably just a mistake on my part. My apologies.

You are just determined to make this about race when it isn't. I'm done discussing this with you.