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CleveSteve 04-05-2017 03:06 PM

How come I don't get to draft for Carolina anymore?

RealSNR 04-05-2017 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12811127)
How come I don't get to draft for Carolina anymore?



Make Pestilence fix it if there's an error. I'm basically only able to be on my phone the rest of the day

DJ's left nut 04-05-2017 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12811127)
How come I don't get to draft for Carolina anymore?

http://tmfd-designs.com/wp-content/u...dfca5adb91.jpg

raybec 4 04-05-2017 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12811127)
How come I don't get to draft for Carolina anymore?

The group got together and voted unanimously that anything associated with Cleveland is to be treated with a quarantine mentality. The less stuff you people touch the better it is for everyone.

The Franchise 04-05-2017 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12811127)
How come I don't get to draft for Carolina anymore?

Fixed, you needy prick.

CleveSteve 04-05-2017 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12811144)
Fixed, you needy prick.

:D

RealSNR 04-05-2017 03:26 PM

Thanks, Pesty!

CleveSteve, you seem nice. And a bit on the prissy bitch side. But still very nice.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2017 03:28 PM

CleveSteve and O.City should go bowling.

CleveSteve 04-05-2017 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12811167)
CleveSteve and O.City should go bowling.

Bowling? Ew. I don't want to get meningitis.

raybec 4 04-05-2017 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12811167)
CleveSteve and O.City should go bowling.

O.City would be balls deep in Steve's root canal by the 6th frame.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2017 04:03 PM

I'm not sure how one gets balls deep into a root canal but I'm guessing my insurance wouldn't cover it.

raybec 4 04-05-2017 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12811201)
I'm not sure how one gets balls deep into a root canal but I'm guessing my insurance wouldn't cover it.

I don't know either, but he said he did it yesterday. I'm sure O would gladly give you a CP discount if you allowed him to take video and stills for "training" purposes.

O.city 04-05-2017 04:55 PM

Upper 1st and 2nd molar root canals, 2 hours total. It was interesting

Rain Man 04-05-2017 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12811251)
Upper 1st and 2nd molar root canals, 2 hours total. It was interesting

Would you ever consider giving someone a mouthful of metal teeth if they asked? You know, like that guy on the James Bond movie? Assume that they're asking for it, not that you're suggesting it.

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Jaws.jpg

O.city 04-05-2017 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12811259)
Would you ever consider giving someone a mouthful of metal teeth if they asked? You know, like that guy on the James Bond movie? Assume that they're asking for it, not that you're suggesting it.

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Jaws.jpg

Sure.

I'd make then sign off on it but if that's what they want

raybec 4 04-05-2017 05:04 PM

http://www.grillz.net/media/wysiwyg/...88348_n_1_.jpg

I'm sure it happen a lot

Rain Man 04-05-2017 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12811264)
Sure.

I'd make then sign off on it but if that's what they want

I hope you get to do it some day, because it seems like it would be a nice chance to have a change of pace.

Rain Man 04-05-2017 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12811265)

I'm sure it happen a lot


Maybe I just run in the wrong circles for it.

The process might freak me out too much to do it, but if society allowed for it and it was healthy, I'd consider filing my teeth into points like those tribesmen do. That's a good look.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...17_468x312.jpg

Direckshun 04-05-2017 05:43 PM

Dropping in to say my pick is coming but I can't post now. Stand by for a bit.

Not that you have a choice, I guess.

Rain Man 04-05-2017 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12811302)
Dropping in to say my pick is coming but I can't post now. Stand by for a bit.

Not that you have a choice, I guess.

Hmm. Dolphins have filed teeth as well. Must be a tribal thing.

http://4everstatic.com/pictures/674x...eth-190821.jpg

Sfeihc 04-05-2017 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12811302)
Dropping in to say my pick is coming but I can't post now. Stand by for a bit.

Not that you have a choice, I guess.

So is Christmas but your next pick is better than SNR trying to use his reverse psychology for more dic pics or Oreach.city making picks while huffing laughing gas.

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Direckshun 04-05-2017 09:28 PM

The Miami Dolphins select Xavier Woods, S, Louisiana Tech.

RealSNR 04-05-2017 09:37 PM

This draft is so deep that I think we'll all be pretty surprised by how poorly we do when we compare each pick's value with the real draft.

Nearly every other pick we're making generates a "Wow, can't believe this guy was on the board for that long" reaction. When there's that much talent in thick tiers at several positions, we have no clue how NFL teams are going to interpret those values. You add some uncertainty here or there, and more than likely we could very well see all of these "steals" we're getting get drafted later than we think or even fall off the end of the draft entirely. There's going to be a ****ing insane pool of rookie free agents to choose from with a ton of really really good players in that pool. A lot of them are going to be guys we're picking right now.

Hoover 04-05-2017 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12811597)
This draft is so deep that I think we'll all be pretty surprised by how poorly we do when we compare each pick's value with the real draft.

Nearly every other pick we're making generates a "Wow, can't believe this guy was on the board for that long" reaction. When there's that much talent in thick tiers at several positions, we have no clue how NFL teams are going to interpret those values. You add some uncertainty here or there, and more than likely we could very well see all of these "steals" we're getting get drafted later than we think or even fall off the end of the draft entirely. There's going to be a ****ing insane pool of rookie free agents to choose from with a ton of really really good players in that pool. A lot of them are going to be guys we're picking right now.

Agree.

While we seem to dig deep into the depth of the draft, I think some players in positions that are thin will be over valued/drafted.

BossChief 04-06-2017 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12811597)
This draft is so deep that I think we'll all be pretty surprised by how poorly we do when we compare each pick's value with the real draft.

Nearly every other pick we're making generates a "Wow, can't believe this guy was on the board for that long" reaction. When there's that much talent in thick tiers at several positions, we have no clue how NFL teams are going to interpret those values. You add some uncertainty here or there, and more than likely we could very well see all of these "steals" we're getting get drafted later than we think or even fall off the end of the draft entirely. There's going to be a ****ing insane pool of rookie free agents to choose from with a ton of really really good players in that pool. A lot of them are going to be guys we're picking right now.

I'm interested in seeing how the talent pool from this draft effects the veterans that are borderline to make rosters and in KCs case, I'm interested to see how many vets lose their spot to rookies due to the 10 draft picks.

CleveSteve 04-06-2017 06:16 AM

What are the chances zombie Direckshun forgot to PM O.City?

BossChief 04-06-2017 06:20 AM

I sent a PM to O just incase

ChiefAshhole1056 04-06-2017 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12811749)
I'm interested in seeing how the talent pool from this draft effects the veterans that are borderline to make rosters and in KCs case, I'm interested to see how many vets lose their spot to rookies due to the 10 draft picks.

I think we're going to see quite a few notable veterans get cut next offseason to clear some cap space (Bailey, Parker, DJ, etc.), I think this draft is going to be pretty transparent in showing us who they plan on moving on from.

O.city 04-06-2017 08:10 AM

NY giants select

Zach Banner OT USC

staylor26 04-06-2017 08:22 AM

The Oakland Raiders select Tanner Vallejo, LB, Boise State

Wouldn't be surprised if he goes later than this in the real draft, but I'm going to roll the dice and try to fill the Raiders need at LB. You have to go back to 2014 and 2015 to see it (played out of position in 2016), but this guy reminds me of Kiko Alonso.

Fansy the Famous Bard 04-06-2017 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056 (Post 12811836)
I think we're going to see quite a few notable veterans get cut next offseason to clear some cap space (Bailey, Parker, DJ, etc.), I think this draft is going to be pretty transparent in showing us who they plan on moving on from.

At the same time, the NFL really doesn't do that as much as you think. It's an immediate return league. If someone is being drafted now, it's not usually because they're looking to replace someone down the line. It's for immediate depth at a position, or they like talent. These GM's and Coaches look more towards the immediate year... The 53 man roster (as silly as it sounds) is very limiting on what you can do for developmental means. While I agree that we could possibly see that for a specific position, I'm not sure it's as cut and dry as what you're suggesting with transparency for multiple replacements.

Fansy the Famous Bard 04-06-2017 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12811861)
The Oakland Raiders select Tanner Vallejo, LB, Boise State

Wouldn't be surprised if he goes later than this in the real draft, but I'm going to roll the dice and try to fill the Raiders need at LB. You have to go back to 2014 and 2015 to see it (played out of position in 2016), but this guy reminds me of Kiko Alonso.

I do really like this kid and hope he gets a look by the Chiefs in later rounds.

ChiefAshhole1056 04-06-2017 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahrenheit (Post 12811878)
At the same time, the NFL really doesn't do that as much as you think. It's an immediate return league. If someone is being drafted now, it's not usually because they're looking to replace someone down the line. It's for immediate depth at a position, or they like talent. These GM's and Coaches look more towards the immediate year... The 53 man roster (as silly as it sounds) is very limiting on what you can do for developmental means. While I agree that we could possibly see that for a specific position, I'm not sure it's as cut and dry as what you're suggesting with transparency for multiple replacements.

Fair enough, maybe I was just thinking in terms of how Dorsey usually goes about drafting. His high picks usually are somewhat related to players that are soon departing, and I feel that with how loaded this draft is that philosophy is going to blend in to the mid rounds as well since we are going to be able to get higher value later in the draft than usual.

ChiefAshhole1056 04-06-2017 08:58 AM

The Houston Texans select Jonnu Smith, FIU, TE.

The Franchise 04-06-2017 09:04 AM

Chiefs are on the clock.

Fansy the Famous Bard 04-06-2017 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12811934)
Chiefs are on the clock.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/fa/fa111...ab5477bd9e.jpg

DJ's left nut 04-06-2017 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12811861)
The Oakland Raiders select Tanner Vallejo, LB, Boise State

Wouldn't be surprised if he goes later than this in the real draft, but I'm going to roll the dice and try to fill the Raiders need at LB. You have to go back to 2014 and 2015 to see it (played out of position in 2016), but this guy reminds me of Kiko Alonso.

My Broncos pick is a guy I absolutely know will go later. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes undrafted.

But if I were running the war room and didn't get him because I thought he'd be there in the 7th, I'd be pissed. So rather than game my 'score', I'm going to play it straight. Anything sooner than the 5th is too early for this guy but it's fair game from that point forward.

I hate that Denver gave that pick to NE - I was all set with that choice.

Rain Man 04-06-2017 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12811848)
NY giants select

Zach Banner OT USC

He'd been at the top of both Cleveland's and New England's boards for value for a while now, but we just didn't quite make the pick due to uncertainty about what position he'd end up at.

Rain Man 04-06-2017 11:55 AM

While we're waiting, let's present a football-related ad from our sponsors.

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BossChief 04-06-2017 12:17 PM

In the 5th round of the 2017 CP mock, The Kansas City Chiefs select Blair Brown, ILB, Ohio

2nd overall grade for an ILB by PFF next to Ruben Foster.
#1 tackling grade on college football
Ran a 4.65 40 at the combine and was the top performer at his position in the 20yard shuttle and vertical.
Also had an impressive 124 inch broad jump and a 6.92 second 3 cone.
128 tackles, 15tfl and 4.5 sacks last year.

I expect our coaches to help his development in coverage, as he seems to have the tools to be good in coverage and is already extremely good against the run. Only missed 3 tackles last year.

Good value at a position of need for the Chiefs.

CleveSteve 04-06-2017 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12812318)
In the 5th round of the 2017 CP mock, The Kansas City Chiefs select Blair Brown, ILB, Ohio

YOU SON OF A *****!

CleveSteve 04-06-2017 12:33 PM

Man I was totally counting on getting Brown at 192. This guy sheds blocks as well as anyone in the draft. Also has an insane SPARQ rating... best of all LBs this year.

The Franchise 04-06-2017 12:46 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qEt1mxYQ37g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

CleveSteve 04-06-2017 12:50 PM

You can also watch any of Terrell Basham's cut ups on draftbreakdown. Won't take long to see who this guy is.

CleveSteve 04-06-2017 12:50 PM

Stupid PFF.

BossChief 04-06-2017 01:09 PM

BWAHAHAHAHA

BossChief 04-06-2017 01:32 PM

I still like my Vanderdoes pick, but that's probably the one I'd take back at this point and replace with Kittle. I just didn't think 3 TEs would go off the board by the Chiefs next pick and that I'd have at least one that I liked at the next pick. Oh well. Vanderdoes has stud potential so I'm good with it, but Kittle and Kelce would have been a damn good set of TEs for Andy's 2TE sets he loves so much.

CleveSteve 04-06-2017 02:45 PM

Man this pick is getting crickets.

ChiefAshhole1056 04-06-2017 02:51 PM

Didnt know much about the guy honestly, but after seeing that I'm a big fan.

DJ's left nut 04-06-2017 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056 (Post 12812680)
Didnt know much about the guy honestly, but after seeing that I'm a big fan.

Pretty much where I'm at.

Never heard of him, can't really criticize him because I've never seen him. But the video from Pest looks promising. Seems like a good pick...I guess.

BossChief 04-06-2017 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12812712)
Pretty much where I'm at.

Never heard of him, can't really criticize him because I've never seen him. But the video from Pest looks promising. Seems like a good pick...I guess.

I did a bunch of research on him and what I've come up with is that he's probably already an exceptional 2 down backer that needs lots of work against the pass...but has the raw tools to be a difference making 3 down linebacker. If he was 2 inches taller, he'd be on everyone's list.

I'm making the pick knowing we have good coaches to help him in coverage and help him reach his ceiling.

Marco Polo 04-06-2017 04:05 PM

The Bills are needing some depth in RT and was torn between two prospects. This one is a natural RT but still some concerns on long-term potential.

The Buffalo Bills select Erik Magnuson, OT, Michigan.

DJ's left nut 04-06-2017 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12812774)
I did a bunch of research on him and what I've come up with is that he's probably already an exceptional 2 down backer that needs lots of work against the pass...but has the raw tools to be a difference making 3 down linebacker. If he was 2 inches taller, he'd be on everyone's list.

I'm making the pick knowing we have good coaches to help him in coverage and help him reach his ceiling.

Worked with Justin March...

Sfeihc 04-06-2017 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 12812807)
The Bills are needing some depth in RT and was torn between two prospects. This one is a natural RT but still some concerns on long-term potential.

The Buffalo Bills select Erik Magnuson, OT, Michigan.

Excellent pick, Marco. He was going to be the pick for Ozzie and the Ravens. Go Blue!

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RealSNR 04-06-2017 05:30 PM

Blair Brown is a nice pick. He was high up on my board, but he's not the defensive player I was thinking about with the Vikings' pick. It turns out that dude is still on the board, and if billay doesn't **** this up for me, I'll definitely be taking him for Pittsburgh

Titty Meat 04-06-2017 06:25 PM

DJ said said it best about this draft there's so much pass rush talent in this draft you can find some steals in this draft. I think this kid could be good in a few years.

Samson Ebukam,OLB, Eastern Washington

RealSNR 04-06-2017 08:28 PM

Pittsburgh selects Connor Harris, ILB, Lindenwood

Small school guy I've been watching who's a lot like Blair Brown with a bit more refinement when it comes to coverage. Only downside is he comes from Division II, but I don't think the transition will take as long for him. Division II players make it in the NFL every year.

staylor26 04-06-2017 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12813263)
Pittsburgh selects Connor Harris, ILB, Lindenwood

Small school guy I've been watching who's a lot like Blair Brown with a bit more refinement when it comes to coverage. Only downside is he comes from Division II, but I don't think the transition will take as long for him. Division II players make it in the NFL every year.

JFC I thought I'd get this guy for sure with my Saints pick :cuss:

Hoover 04-06-2017 09:47 PM

With the 174th pick in the NFL Draft

The Atlanta Falcons select Carroll Phillips, DE/OLB, Illinois

Limited to just my phone so someone PM the next dude.

I'm intrigued by this kid. Had a good year under Lovie Smith. Great size for a pass rusher. Dude will be 25, so on one hand that suck but it also means he's fully developed and mature plus I get his prime years on a rookie contract.

I could be way off but in the 5th round I'm a buyer on a dude with big upside.

Rain Man 04-06-2017 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12813502)
With the 174th pick in the NFL Draft

The Atlanta Falcons select Carroll Phillips, DE/OLB, Illinois

Limited to just my phone so someone PM the next dude.

I'm intrigued by this kid. Had a good year under Lovie Smith. Great size for a pass rusher. Dude will be 25, so on one hand that suck but it also means he's fully developed and mature plus I get his prime years on a rookie contract.

I could be way off but in the 5th round I'm a buyer on a dude with big upside.

Have you pm'ed the next guy? Oh, wait, I see your note. I'll do it.

Rain Man 04-06-2017 09:53 PM

Wait a minute. That guy just pm'ed me back and wants me to PM you that Carroll Phillips is already taken.

Rain Man 04-06-2017 09:58 PM

He just pm'ed me again and really wants to make his pick. So Hoover had better hurry.

Rain Man 04-06-2017 10:00 PM

This is rapidly turning into a full-blown incident.

Hoover 04-06-2017 10:02 PM

Ahh shit didn't see that he had been picked.

Rain Man 04-06-2017 10:03 PM

"This is a good pick by Atlanta, but if they're going to pick a guy twice, I think they could have gotten more value by picking Myles Garrett again."

http://www.raiders.com/assets/images...-mayock-cp.jpg

Hoover 04-06-2017 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12813525)
"This is a good pick by Atlanta, but if they're going to pick a guy twice, I think they could have gotten more value by picking Myles Garrett again."

http://www.raiders.com/assets/images...-mayock-cp.jpg

Isn't that the truth!

CleveSteve 04-06-2017 10:06 PM

Ah wish ah could rep you...

RealSNR 04-07-2017 05:56 AM

Hoover drafts a dude already picked then goes offline.

Good stuff! Good stuff!

Hoover 04-07-2017 06:18 AM

Yeah didnt go off line just don't have my computer. Pick will be made in the nine o'clock hour don't get your panties all knotted up.

Rain Man 04-07-2017 08:39 AM

Cleveland's celebrity draft picker is bleary-eyed after waiting all night to make a grand entrance.

Hoover 04-07-2017 08:55 AM

With the 174th pick in the NFL Draft the Atlanta Falcons select Fred "The Boss" Ross, WR, Mississippi State.

Sorry for the delay.

Rain Man 04-07-2017 09:37 AM

An elderly man enters the draft auditorium. He's wearing a robe and doesn't look like he got much sleep last night.

Rain Man 04-07-2017 09:38 AM

He shuffles to the stage, a cup of coffee in his hand.

http://media.cleveland.com/opinion_i...2845-large.jpg

Rain Man 04-07-2017 09:42 AM

"We talk of the great people of Cleveland," he says, "and we often focus on athletics. Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Lou Groza. But the true measure of greatness is when one gives one's life to service, as did my great-grandfather."

And with that, he unveils a life-sized poster of former president James A. Garfield.

"This level of greatness is what we should strive for in Cleveland, not just football greatness. But my job here today is to bring football greatness, and that I shall do."

http://media.cleveland.com/opinion_i...096615c407.jpg

DJ's left nut 04-07-2017 09:48 AM

Find more youthful, energetic celebrity pickers.

These guys you've been sending up here take 30 minutes from start to finish. That's easily 27 more minutes than I have stamina for....

{realizes I was using my out loud voice for that last bit....blushes and runs out of the room}

Rain Man 04-07-2017 09:57 AM

"First, let me use this public platform to protest the name 'Browns'. Paul Brown was a football coach. My great-grandfather was a Civil War general who led Union troops to victory in eastern Kentucky. He promoted the abolition of slavery and civil rights in the post-Civil War era. He fought corruption and raised the presence of the United States in foreign affairs. And of course, he gave his life when a madman shot him only months into his presidency.

"I call on you, football fans! Stand with me! This team should no longer be called the Cleveland Browns, bowing to the ego of a mere football coach, but should be the Cleveland Garfields, after the greatest man in Cleveland history! Who's with me? Applaud if you wish to support and compete with the Cleveland Garfields!

"And now we shall make our pick.

"With the 5-175 pick for the Cleveland Garfields in the 2017 NFL Annual Player Selection Process, United States President James A. Garfield and I are pleased to announce the selection of Aviante Collins, Offensive Tackle, TCU."

Rain Man 04-07-2017 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12814082)
Find more youthful, energetic celebrity pickers.

These guys you've been sending up here take 30 minutes from start to finish. That's easily 27 more minutes than I have stamina for....

{realizes I was using my out loud voice for that last bit....blushes and runs out of the room}

As he leaves, Mr. Garfield points an accusing finger at the Broncos' draft table. "It's people like you that my great-grandfather fought!" he yells. "Cheating! Corruption! Scandal! If he was alive today, you would all be in prison! You're the modern face of Charles Guiteau!"

The Franchise 04-07-2017 10:01 AM

BRING BACK DUSHKU!!!!!!!

Rain Man 04-07-2017 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12814096)
BRING BACK DUSHKU!!!!!!!

He raises a fist high into the air. "Cleveland Garfields!"

Rain Man 04-07-2017 10:07 AM

Mr. Garfield goes to the Cleveland table and taps out a message on a telegraph to Tambaberry that Cincinnati is now in power, just like Chester A. Arthur rose to post-Garfield power in 1881.


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