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Bufkin 05-31-2018 08:37 AM

That book sounds silly. Everybody knows the Athletics are in Oakland.

ChiefsCountry 05-31-2018 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 13576063)
I'm a baseball geek - I bought that book too :D

Same. I thought it was a damn good read. The number figures were interested in as well.

ChiefsCountry 05-31-2018 10:24 AM

Here is a cool old video of the Kansas City A's
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/dzEz0QexNEc" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sure-Oz 05-31-2018 10:31 PM

Thoughts on these mock type of trades from Jon Heyman.

https://frsbaseball.com/mlb/heyman-a...ed-but-should/

3. Kelvin Herrera and Jon Jay to the Astros for pitching prospect David Paulino and J.D. Davis.

Herrera has been touted here for weeks as the right one for the Astros. Paulino has been dangled by the Astros forever. The Royals will need corner guys with Mike Moustakas and Lucas Duda free agents.

6. Mike Moustakas to the Braves for A.J. Minter and Kyle Muller.

The Braves are likely to seek a third base upgrade, but probably not of a mind to deal top guys or add huge money, so Machado and Donaldson may be less likely. Moustakas is having a nice year at a reasonable rate, and he’d fit fine.

KChiefs1 06-01-2018 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13577395)
Thoughts on these mock type of trades from Jon Heyman.

https://frsbaseball.com/mlb/heyman-a...ed-but-should/

3. Kelvin Herrera and Jon Jay to the Astros for pitching prospect David Paulino and J.D. Davis.

Herrera has been touted here for weeks as the right one for the Astros. Paulino has been dangled by the Astros forever. The Royals will need corner guys with Mike Moustakas and Lucas Duda free agents.

6. Mike Moustakas to the Braves for A.J. Minter and Kyle Muller.

The Braves are likely to seek a third base upgrade, but probably not of a mind to deal top guys or add huge money, so Machado and Donaldson may be less likely. Moustakas is having a nice year at a reasonable rate, and he’d fit fine.



Duncan should be the expert on this.

duncan_idaho 06-01-2018 11:43 AM

*** Official 2018 Royals Repository ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13577395)
Thoughts on these mock type of trades from Jon Heyman.

https://frsbaseball.com/mlb/heyman-a...ed-but-should/

3. Kelvin Herrera and Jon Jay to the Astros for pitching prospect David Paulino and J.D. Davis.

Herrera has been touted here for weeks as the right one for the Astros. Paulino has been dangled by the Astros forever. The Royals will need corner guys with Mike Moustakas and Lucas Duda free agents.

6. Mike Moustakas to the Braves for A.J. Minter and Kyle Muller.

The Braves are likely to seek a third base upgrade, but probably not of a mind to deal top guys or add huge money, so Machado and Donaldson may be less likely. Moustakas is having a nice year at a reasonable rate, and he’d fit fine.


These would be fair returns.

Paulinho is a huge power arm with durability concerns. Worst-case, he would be a good back-end bullpen piece.

If he can stay healthy, he throws enough strikes to have a 3 floor with a ToR ceiling. MLb ready now.

Davis is a 3B with good power. He’s already 25 and is also MlB-ready. You’d get his prime years under control.

I like Muller and I LOOOOOVE AJ Minter, who I think is going to be an elite closer.

Minter is already a major leaguer and would slide right into the closer spot for KC. Muller is a projectable High-A arm that would slot nicely with the Lee/Matias/Pratto wave.

Personally, I think both deals are good for KC, but wonder if KC would prefer a little more youth and upside in return.

Rogelio Armentaros is also a guy I could see KC valuing over Paulinho despite him being a little lower ranked.

Discuss Thrower 06-01-2018 11:45 AM

TFW duncan ignores your PMs

duncan_idaho 06-01-2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13577916)
TFW duncan ignores your PMs


Shit, did you send me something? Sorry, man, I missed it.

I’ve been buried in work and being a twin toddler parent. Barely have come up for air on Chiefs Planet of late.

TomBarndtsTwin 06-01-2018 01:19 PM

All Star voting officially open.

https://www.mlb.com/all-star/ballot


#VoteSalvy. #VoteMoose. Vote often.

tk13 06-01-2018 02:23 PM

Looks like the Dodgers may be jumping on the bandwagon behind the Rays. Scott Alexander is going to "start" tonight as the "opener."

BWillie 06-01-2018 03:19 PM

Cam Gallagher having a nice year at AAA. 102 ABs, 2 HR, .333 avg, .839 OPS.

Maybe we can finally get rid of Butera as a back up. I know he's had some good spurts with the Royals, but bottom line is he's a .550 career OPS hitter.

Prison Bitch 06-01-2018 07:50 PM

Duncan is a genius. But he needs to recant in Ian.

I've watched 30+ years and I've never hated anyone like this SOB

SPchief 06-01-2018 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13578471)
Duncan is a genius. But he needs to recant in Ian.

I've watched 30+ years and I've never hated anyone like this SOB

Omar says hi

Sure-Oz 06-02-2018 04:35 AM

Maybe could've used more trade bait gmd
@BooneOWH: Clay Buchholz has made three starts since signing with Arizona after leaving Omaha after getting his release from the Royals. He's 1-1 with a 1.50 ERA with 14 strikeouts in 18 innings. WHIP is 0.67.

dlphg9 06-02-2018 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13578769)
Maybe could've used more trade bait gmd
@BooneOWH: Clay Buchholz has made three starts since signing with Arizona after leaving Omaha after getting his release from the Royals. He's 1-1 with a 1.50 ERA with 14 strikeouts in 18 innings. WHIP is 0.67.

Man, just kinda sucks that our rotation is so good that we couldn't find a spot for him.

Why Not? 06-02-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 13578669)
Omar says hi

Omar hit a home run in a WS game for the Royals. That's 100x more significant than anything Batting Practice Kennedy has ever done for us. Just saying.

OKchiefs 06-02-2018 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13578769)
Maybe could've used more trade bait gmd
@BooneOWH: Clay Buchholz has made three starts since signing with Arizona after leaving Omaha after getting his release from the Royals. He's 1-1 with a 1.50 ERA with 14 strikeouts in 18 innings. WHIP is 0.67.

You mean Moore made the wrong personnel decision AGAIN?

duncan_idaho 06-02-2018 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13578471)
Duncan is a genius. But he needs to recant in Ian.



I've watched 30+ years and I've never hated anyone like this SOB


It’s brutal at this point. He’s lost a couple mph on his fastball.

He was exactly what they thought they were getting in Year 1. Headed to the pain zone unless he finds a way to reinvent himself.

Al Bundy 06-02-2018 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13578851)
It’s brutal at this point. He’s lost a couple mph on his fastball.

He was exactly what they thought they were getting in Year 1. Headed to the pain zone unless he finds a way to reinvent himself.

He's got his cash, do you honestly think he is going to put in any effort at this point in his career?

BigCatDaddy 06-02-2018 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13578859)
He's got his cash, do you honestly think he is going to put in any effort at this point in his career?

I think most professionals still take pride in their performance and hate lletting eveyone down regardless of their bank acct.

BWillie 06-02-2018 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13578769)
Maybe could've used more trade bait gmd
@BooneOWH: Clay Buchholz has made three starts since signing with Arizona after leaving Omaha after getting his release from the Royals. He's 1-1 with a 1.50 ERA with 14 strikeouts in 18 innings. WHIP is 0.67.

I was stoked with the idea of having a healthy Clay Bucholz. No idea what the Org was thinking by not picking up the contract. He was even dealing in the minors for us.

duncan_idaho 06-02-2018 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13578970)
I was stoked with the idea of having a healthy Clay Bucholz. No idea what the Org was thinking by not picking up the contract. He was even dealing in the minors for us.


Still don’t get it. They could have easily bailed on other, worse veteran pitchers who have less value as trade bait, should they figure it out. Namely, Boyer.

Chiefspants 06-02-2018 12:34 PM

Would be great if we could rush Trevor Cahill from this one. Of course he's been great this year so far, figures.

Pitt Gorilla 06-02-2018 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13578970)
I was stoked with the idea of having a healthy Clay Bucholz. No idea what the Org was thinking by not picking up the contract. He was even dealing in the minors for us.

allard Moore uses his own numbers, thank you.

Sure-Oz 06-02-2018 01:36 PM

@Royals: We have claimed OF Rosell Herrera off outright waivers from the Cincinnati Reds. He has been optioned to Omaha. To make room on the 40-man roster, we have transferred RHP Nate Karns to the 60-day disabled list (right elbow inflammation).

Sure-Oz 06-02-2018 01:57 PM

@h8rproof82: Herrera played LF & CF last season. Playing solely 2B this year. I’m wondering if they could be preparing for a Whit Merrifield Trade with this move?

@h8rproof82: The way Whit Merrifield is hitting I would think there’s lots of convos about him especially considering his versatility and contract. Herrera seems to be a super utility type in that Whit Mold. Not saying same player just Versatile speedy piece. This move a precursor to a deal?

@h8rproof82: Rosell Herrera was a Top 100 Prospect in 2014. 6’3” 200 Pound 2B from the Dominican Republic. 25 years old. He’s playing 2B this year. Has played all 3 OF spots and SS as well in his career. Has a .813 OPS in AAA and saw Time for the Reds.

KChiefs1 06-02-2018 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13578970)
I was stoked with the idea of having a healthy Clay Bucholz. No idea what the Org was thinking by not picking up the contract. He was even dealing in the minors for us.


This organization has screwed up quite a few times.

BWillie 06-02-2018 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13579094)
@h8rproof82: Herrera played LF & CF last season. Playing solely 2B this year. I’m wondering if they could be preparing for a Whit Merrifield Trade with this move?

@h8rproof82: The way Whit Merrifield is hitting I would think there’s lots of convos about him especially considering his versatility and contract. Herrera seems to be a super utility type in that Whit Mold. Not saying same player just Versatile speedy piece. This move a precursor to a deal?

@h8rproof82: Rosell Herrera was a Top 100 Prospect in 2014. 6’3” 200 Pound 2B from the Dominican Republic. 25 years old. He’s playing 2B this year. Has played all 3 OF spots and SS as well in his career. Has a .813 OPS in AAA and saw Time for the Reds.


Sooo can we immediately get rid of Almonte, now?

Look at the year this Herrera kid had in A ball 2013 as a 20-21 year old (.343 avg, 16 hr, .933 OPS) Not sure why he hasn't improved, but looks to be as solid as piece you can get off the garbage heap.

Play him. Play him over Almonte, Goins. Stop putting Whit anywhere else other than 2B and get this guy out there see what he can do.

KCUnited 06-02-2018 03:18 PM

Hip hip Jorge!

Chiefspants 06-02-2018 03:18 PM

Thinking this Jorge Soler guy might be pretty good.

Al Bundy 06-02-2018 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13579080)
@Royals: We have claimed OF Rosell Herrera off outright waivers from the Cincinnati Reds. He has been optioned to Omaha. To make room on the 40-man roster, we have transferred RHP Nate Karns to the 60-day disabled list (right elbow inflammation).

Yeah, Karns is done.

Sure-Oz 06-02-2018 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13579153)
Thinking this Jorge Soler guy might be pretty good.

Looks like it... hopefully he continues to adjust. Ridiculous power and has a pretty good eye.

Sure-Oz 06-02-2018 07:06 PM

Matias kid has 2 hr tonight with 17 now

CasselGotPeedOn 06-02-2018 07:09 PM

Is Dayton Moore still the gm if we don't sneak into the playoffs in 14?

TambaBerry 06-02-2018 10:05 PM

So, I haven't followed this thread but who do we want the Royal's to get in the draft? Pitching at the top of the list?

OKchiefs 06-02-2018 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13579417)
So, I haven't followed this thread but who do we want the Royal's to get in the draft? Pitching at the top of the list?

Yeah, I'd stay a million miles away from pitching. Zero of their high picks at pitcher have amounted to anything in a while. Load up on bats and use trades to add pitchers from systems that actually know how to develop them.

duncan_idaho 06-03-2018 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13579417)
So, I haven't followed this thread but who do we want the Royal's to get in the draft? Pitching at the top of the list?


The Royals need star talent/potential, regardless of position.

There are a few pitchers that may get to that spot that I really like - Ethan Hankins from HS in Georgia, Kumar Rocker, also a GA HS kid, and Logan Gilbert from Stetson (strong deGrom vibe).

OF Jordyn Adams will likely be there and is a classic Royals crush ... multi sport HS athlete with enormous physical ability (Byron Buxton-type tools) but I would stay away from him (biggest bust/upside pick at that spot).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13579301)
Matias kid has 2 hr tonight with 17 now


His ISO (SLG-AVG) is ridiculous. Average is not impressive and still needs work on recognizing and spitting on spin, but his raw power is sick.

And he’s probably the second-best prospect on that team, since 2017 second-round pick MC Melendez is showing nearly the same power but with plus C defense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 13579306)
Is Dayton Moore still the gm if we don't sneak into the playoffs in 14?


“Sneak in?” They were one of the hottest teams in baseball in the second half and secured the top WC spot. Do you consider all WC teams as sneaking in?

I think he would have survived had they missed but still had a winning season.

KChiefs1 06-03-2018 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13579153)
Thinking this Jorge Soler guy might be pretty good.

Nice trade by Dayton Moore.

KChiefs1 06-03-2018 09:35 AM

*** Official 2018 Royals Repository ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13579417)
So, I haven't followed this thread but who do we want the Royal's to get in the draft? Pitching at the top of the list?

https://twitter.com/shauncore/status...049186816?s=21


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a6235f50d1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1787c692dc.jpg

Nightfyre 06-03-2018 09:40 AM

Is Soler a trade candidate this year?

KChiefs1 06-03-2018 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13560114)
Would have been a great contract if MLB didn't juice the ball. Ian Kennedy is as fly ball pitcher as there is. On paper, it was a smart signing. MLB ****ed us is what happened.



https://www.royalsreview.com/platfor...for-the-royals

duncan_idaho 06-03-2018 09:49 AM



Schnell, Groshans, Rodriguez and Rocker would be an insane haul. Not sure those guys all fall that way, though.

Rodriguez and Rocker are probably 2 of the top 5 upside pitchers in this draft, and my #2 and 3 HS arms.

duncan_idaho 06-03-2018 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 13579511)
Is Soler a trade candidate this year?


It would need to be a large haul built around a top 25 prospect, IMO, if he keeps this up.

He’s young, cheap, good and controlled enough that they should ask for a ton or hold on to him.

BWillie 06-03-2018 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13579417)
So, I haven't followed this thread but who do we want the Royal's to get in the draft? Pitching at the top of the list?

I'm to the point where the Royals have shown they suck at evaluating pitching, so just go all bats. Either fill in with FA pitchers when you have to or acquire good AAA or AA pitchers with your assets you drafted on bats. It seems like bats are easier to project than pitchers. We failed with Zimmer. We failed with Ashe Russell. We are currently failing with Nolan Watson, who looks like a dumpster fire. We didn't get our moneys worth on Montgomery, Crow or JP Howell either.

Sure-Oz 06-03-2018 01:29 PM

I'd rather they draft a bunch of hitters

tk13 06-03-2018 01:52 PM

Whit's such a good player. If they trade him they better get something legit back. Especially since we don't have to trade him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think <a href="https://twitter.com/DHoltzy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DHoltzy</a> will have the updated stat in a moment. But I think Whit Merrifield is now something like 17 for 18 stealing third in his career.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/1003362448466989062?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Why Not? 06-03-2018 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13579668)
Whit's such a good player. If they trade him they better get something legit back. Especially since we don't have to trade him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think <a href="https://twitter.com/DHoltzy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DHoltzy</a> will have the updated stat in a moment. But I think Whit Merrifield is now something like 17 for 18 stealing third in his career.</p>&mdash; Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) <a href="https://twitter.com/rustindodd/status/1003362448466989062?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Agreed.

Bufkin 06-03-2018 02:02 PM

Whit may be good, but man this team sucks. Poor Jake Junis.

tk13 06-03-2018 02:15 PM

I think we've seen about enough of Matt Olson. He's hit about three absolute bombs this series.

siberian khatru 06-03-2018 02:16 PM

Burch Smith ****ing sucks

Why Not? 06-03-2018 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 13579687)
Whit may be good, but man this team sucks.

Agreed

Sure-Oz 06-03-2018 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13579698)
Burch Smith ****ing sucks

He has no future with this team. Time to GTFO

tk13 06-03-2018 02:35 PM

The Braves are having a magical season. Seems like every single day they're getting a walk off hit. Today it's Charlie Culbertson with his 2nd walk off homer in a week.

tk13 06-03-2018 02:44 PM

That's pretty nasty. Treinen throwing 99 mph with a ton of movement.

duncan_idaho 06-03-2018 03:22 PM

The a’s are set up nicely to have a good 4-5 year run. ChApman, Olson, Barrett, Fowler, Krhis Davis, Semien are a pretty good offensive core. Manaea, Montana, plenty of good arms.

Re: drafting pitchers, I think they generally have done better at maxing out stuff vs developing pitchers. Good for developing bullpen pieces, not as good for developing starters.

If they go pitcher, I’d prefer a college arm. I’m really high on Gilbert - probably my favorite college arm other than Mize - but doubt they go there.

Sure-Oz 06-03-2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13579730)
The a’s are set up nicely to have a good 4-5 year run. ChApman, Olson, Barrett, Fowler, Krhis Davis, Semien are a pretty good offensive core. Manaea, Montana, plenty of good arms.

Re: drafting pitchers, I think they generally have done better at maxing out stuff vs developing pitchers. Good for developing bullpen pieces, not as good for developing starters.

If they go pitcher, I’d prefer a college arm. I’m really high on Gilbert - probably my favorite college arm other than Mize - but doubt they go there.

Looking forward to you breaking down picks since I'll have no clue

OKchiefs 06-03-2018 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13579730)
The a’s are set up nicely to have a good 4-5 year run. ChApman, Olson, Barrett, Fowler, Krhis Davis, Semien are a pretty good offensive core. Manaea, Montana, plenty of good arms.

Re: drafting pitchers, I think they generally have done better at maxing out stuff vs developing pitchers. Good for developing bullpen pieces, not as good for developing starters.

If they go pitcher, I’d prefer a college arm. I’m really high on Gilbert - probably my favorite college arm other than Mize - but doubt they go there.

Why are they so bad at developing pitchers? I realize that it's hard for any team, but we seem exceptionally bad. Hell, the best pitcher we've developed in a long time is probably Junis, and even he is probably no better than a 3 on a good team.

siberian khatru 06-03-2018 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13579730)
The a’s are set up nicely to have a good 4-5 year run. ChApman, Olson, Barrett, Fowler, Krhis Davis, Semien are a pretty good offensive core. Manaea, Montana, plenty of good arms.

Re: drafting pitchers, I think they generally have done better at maxing out stuff vs developing pitchers. Good for developing bullpen pieces, not as good for developing starters.

If they go pitcher, I’d prefer a college arm. I’m really high on Gilbert - probably my favorite college arm other than Mize - but doubt they go there.

FWIW — I live in DeLand and attend Stetson games, and have seen Gilbert pitch. Last year, his sophomore year, I saw him pitch one of the best games I’ve ever seen, at any level, in one of the best games I’ve ever seen in my life.

ChiefsCountry 06-03-2018 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13579755)
Why are they so bad at developing pitchers? I realize that it's hard for any team, but we seem exceptionally bad. Hell, the best pitcher we've developed in a long time is probably Junis, and even he is probably no better than a 3 on a good team.

:rolleyes:
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/sit...?itok=n6GXYaF0

duncan_idaho 06-03-2018 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13579755)
Why are they so bad at developing pitchers? I realize that it's hard for any team, but we seem exceptionally bad. Hell, the best pitcher we've developed in a long time is probably Junis, and even he is probably no better than a 3 on a good team.


I do think they have improved over the past few years. First half of Moore’s tenure, IMO, they were too rigid in what they were trying to develop (not letting guys throw sliders even if it was their primary pitch, being very old school).

But the old-school approach they took has led to them drafting a lot of projectable arms that they can then develop and max-out as throwers, but with less emphasis on pitchability.

I don’t think they’ve been exceptionally bad - guys like Junis and Duffy and Ventura are nice products.

All indications I’ve received is that they’ve become more flexible over the past 3-4 years (Junis took off when they ditched the previous philosophy and stopped trying to turn him into a FB-curve-changeup guy). That’s a positive trend on the development side.

On the drafting side, I think they need to bet a little less on projectable Hs arms. Those are the biggest boom-bust product in the draft.

Note: I don’t consider Greyson Rodriguez or Kumar Rocker projectability guys. They’re both very advanced physically for HS guys,
Just need the polish.

Titty Meat 06-03-2018 08:44 PM

They absolutely need to draft some arms. They dont have any.

It would take an impressive haul to trade Soler.


I'm sorry but if they get a decent offer for Salvy it needs to be made.

Sure-Oz 06-03-2018 09:42 PM

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/...s-rangers.html

Boston’s among the teams keeping an eye on*Royals*closer*Kelvin Herrera, according to*Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe. If acquired, the 28-year-old would return to a setup role with the*Red Sox, thanks to the presence of closer*Craig Kimbrel, and would further bolster a late-game mix that also includes*Joe Kelly*and*Matt Barnes. Herrera, who’s in his last year of team control and making $7.94MM, has allowed just two earned runs and hasn’t issued a walk in 22 2/3 innings this season.

duncan_idaho 06-04-2018 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13579775)
FWIW — I live in DeLand and attend Stetson games, and have seen Gilbert pitch. Last year, his sophomore year, I saw him pitch one of the best games I’ve ever seen, at any level, in one of the best games I’ve ever seen in my life.

His stuff backed up a little bit early in the college season, which is why he's likely to be available. He was good in the Cape league last summer and likely still working through the start of his throwing program.

I think he's the best selection for them at 18 but don't expect it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13580128)
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/...s-rangers.html

Boston’s among the teams keeping an eye on*Royals*closer*Kelvin Herrera, according to*Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe. If acquired, the 28-year-old would return to a setup role with the*Red Sox, thanks to the presence of closer*Craig Kimbrel, and would further bolster a late-game mix that also includes*Joe Kelly*and*Matt Barnes. Herrera, who’s in his last year of team control and making $7.94MM, has allowed just two earned runs and hasn’t issued a walk in 22 2/3 innings this season.

That's a good team to work with. Dombrowski isn't afraid to move quality prospects for difference makers, even difference makers on 1-year deals.

The headliners of the Boston system entering 2018 - LHP Jay Groome and 3B Michael Chavis - have both seen their stock take major hits. Groome had TJ and is out until mid-2019. Chavis got busted for steroids and is just now getting ready to return from suspension.

I like Chavis a ton, but I'm not sure the Royals would still be interested at this point (They're weird like that).

OKchiefs 06-04-2018 11:58 AM

Know nothing about the players available, but Bubba Starling has ruined athletic multi-sport players for me. I'd be fine with staying away from Jordyn Adams.

duncan_idaho 06-04-2018 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13580756)
Know nothing about the players available, but Bubba Starling has ruined athletic multi-sport players for me. I'd be fine with staying away from Jordyn Adams.

I have this sinking feeling that's what they're going to do, if he's available.

They have the bonus pool to get Adams out of his football commitment, and he's the type of dynamic, huge upside athlete they drool over in the middle of the diamond.

Ebolapox 06-04-2018 02:02 PM

Can he be trout? Worth the pick?

duncan_idaho 06-04-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 13580942)
Can he be trout? Worth the pick?


That’s an unrealistic tag to put on anyone.

He can be a superstar, but trout is on a different level.

OKchiefs 06-04-2018 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 13580942)
Can he be trout? Worth the pick?

I can't remember the last time the Royals had a true superstar. Maybe Beltran?

WhawhaWhat 06-04-2018 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13581001)
That’s an unrealistic tag to put on anyone.

He can be a superstar, but trout is on a different level.

Trout is on pace to be in the top 5 all time, if not higher. The Royals should draft all of those Mike Trout types.

duncan_idaho 06-04-2018 03:06 PM

Brice Turang and Joe Gray are other names to watch. As a sophomore and junior, turang was viewed as a potential 1-1 pick. He had a so-so Sr season and now is a back half of the first round projection. He’s a switch hitter with a polished hit tool who will stick at SS. I get a strong Lindor vibe from him... ina. Smaller, great player who is seen as a contact and defense SS but has the capacity for much more due to instincts and intelligence.

Gray is very similar to Jordyn Adams in physical skills but has a better track record against better competition.

Ebolapox 06-04-2018 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13581001)
That’s an unrealistic tag to put on anyone.

He can be a superstar, but trout is on a different level.

True, nobody thought he’d be what he is now

gblowfish 06-04-2018 03:10 PM

What time does the draft start? Hope GMDM is on his game tonight.

OKchiefs 06-04-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 13581025)
What time does the draft start? Hope GMDM is on his game tonight.

6 I think?

KChiefs1 06-04-2018 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13581019)
Brice Turang and Joe Gray are other names to watch. As a sophomore and junior, turang was viewed as a potential 1-1 pick. He had a so-so Sr season and now is a back half of the first round projection. He’s a switch hitter with a polished hit tool who will stick at SS. I get a strong Lindor vibe from him... ina. Smaller, great player who is seen as a contact and defense SS but has the capacity for much more due to instincts and intelligence.

Gray is very similar to Jordyn Adams in physical skills but has a better track record against better competition.



Prediction on who they pick?

duncan_idaho 06-04-2018 05:22 PM

Who I think they take:
Adams

Who I want them to take:
Logan Gilbert or Turang

WhawhaWhat 06-04-2018 05:35 PM

Keith Law's mock draft for the Royals.

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Kansas City Royals: Jordan Groshans, 3b, Magnolia (Texas) HS

The Royals pick again at 33, 34, 40 and 58, so they're linked to ... everyone. And I am sure most of it is real. I have heard them specifically with Groshans and Turang, with Mason Denaburg, with Jake McCarthy, with Jeremy Eierman, with Scott and Adams, and that's probably about right. When you pick that often and have that much pool money, you should be linked to a lot of players. They do have the opportunity to walk out of this with three first-round talents if they play the board well.
Essentially he's saying he has no clue.

duncan_idaho 06-04-2018 05:38 PM

I like Groshans but was hoping he’d slip to their pick at 33.

OKchiefs 06-04-2018 05:39 PM

I figured the draft would go faster considering there are no trades.

WhawhaWhat 06-04-2018 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13581220)
I figured the draft would go faster considering there are no trades.

They've been trying to make the MLB draft more like the NFL and NBA draft for years. It will never work because no one has ever heard of these guys and many of them will never be heard from again.

But they'll roll out this dog and pony show year after year because nothing else is happening.

Discuss Thrower 06-04-2018 05:52 PM

Because when I think of the MLB, I think of Ellie Goulding.


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