Your comments aren't directed at the Chiefs, not sure if you have figured that out yet.

I wouldn’t give in to their demands—certainly not yet. They’ll trade him, they’re just trying to get a team to overpay for now.

A month or two ago, they only wanted a 2nd. Then Dallas offered that, and all the sudden they want more. They’re playing games.

ROFL

It's a discussion board and your mad about...discussion.

:rolleyes:

If Thomas has a say, why the hell wouldn't he want to play for Kansas City?

If he turns the Chiefs' defense into average, he's called a difference maker. With him and Berry in there, that's very doable. If the Chiefs' defense sucks, they'll blame it on Sutton.

There is no upside with Dallas. Earl Thomas ain't turning that team around. Their offense is a complete disaster. Even more true if he stays in Seattle.

For a guy trying to prove himself for his last big contract, I'd say that his play this season is a really big deal.

I'm not against getting ET, however I don't think it's at an any cost scenario.

Trading first round picks for 30 year old defensive players then giving them huge contracts rarely works out.

I'm having a tough time thinking sof a single one. Can you?

Remember when Veach walked away from the Watkins trade because they wanted a 2nd but Veach wouldn't go higher than a 3rd? Sucks but I doubt this gets done. Maybe Thomas can drive his trade value down some more by being cancerous in the locker room.

When was the last time somebody like Thomas was available? I can't think of one, can you?

Not remotely mad, just pointing out you have posted the exact same comment about 50 times and most of your comments of that kind have been directed at the fan base because we are all too stupid to figure this out and you are enlightened.

I'm sure Thomas wants to go to KC. I'm sure Veach is doing everything they can to get him here.

I'm also sure Seattle is being shitty about the whole thing because that's how they act 100% of the time. That team fell apart so fast.

But yeah Thomas watches Sportscenter. He knows what's happening here.

Thats not an answer.

So by your measurement nobody like ET has ever been available for trade? Ever?

Lol if he was at the airport, everyone would know it LMAO

seems like we should have heard something by now

I guess anytime before end of October is fair game

Derrel Revis

So where's the same level of disdain for all the Fire Sutton guys then? Even more repetitive than me and some of them even post death threats.

Admit it, the only reason you're mentioning it has nothing to do with the repetitive nature but because you've got a personal beef with me or my opinion.

Either way, I don't care. I'm going to keep posting whatever I think. It's a discussion board.

No, it's not an answer. It's a question.

I asked it because I don't know the answer.

Not everybody or every post has an ulterior motive or is some kind of back-handed jab.

It's a question. I don't know the answer to your question so I posed one of my own.

I'm not a fire Sutton guy and I have no beef with you personally nor do I have any idea why you would think that.

Keep posting the same shit over and over, fine with me.

Unfortunately ET talked to Revis and Revis said, "Noooooooooo"!!:D

I'd rather sign Reid off the street for cash, but then don't mind me-I'm just an Army vet that figures it's his right as a citizen to kneel if he wants during the magic flag song.

And yes, anybody that thinks Bob Sutton has DESIGNED this defense to leave gaping holes up the middle and let guys run free all over the defensive backfield is stupid. I'm trying not to be mean but sometimes the truth is the truth.

Because you took the time to call me out but I haven't seen you say a word to any of them. Ya think that might be why?

And yeah, if people are going to keep repeating "fire Sutton" ad nauseam, I'm going to counter it. I'm not going to stop just because you don't want to read it. I'll stop when the stupidity stops.

Eric Reid is suingthe league

He ain’t getting signed

Earl Thomas is a hall of famer

All I can say is I can't think of a single 30 year old defensive player who was traded for a 1st rounder and given big money.

If Veach thinks it's worth the shot so be it. That a ton of $ to be spent on the safety position and unlike you I believe there is a salary cap effect.

Reid is suing the league. Kneeling, at this point, is the least of his issues.

The salary cap has never stopped other teams from signing people and winning Super Bowls. Like ever.

Well obviously no team that won a SB was stopped by the salary cap, but it's a flat out lie to say many teams have been blown apart and lost players due to the salary cap.

If the cap doesn't exist in any real form why isn't Seattle just paying Thomas his extension? Is a SB winning owner coach and front office just too dumb to make it work?

You seem to be having it both ways with this situation.

There's a difference between a team that already went all-in and one that hasn't yet.

The Chiefs have $11M in cap space and could get Earl Thomas under that without any issue whatsoever.

The only barrier is the trade compensation.

Think they only have 7

Could be interesting. Doesn't sound like Seattle really wants to move him though. If we get him I'll be stoked.

According to overthecap and spotrac we have between $7M and $8M in cap space.

They don't.

No. Your numbers are wrong.

The Chiefs would have to sign him and give him a new multi-year deal to get under the cap.

Whoever trades for him is going to give him a multi-year deal. The whole reason he's holding out is because he wants a multi-year deal.

And if the number is $7M, that's still VERY doable. It's all about "want to".

Cause they are being petty bitches about it apparently...I get they are rebuilding but you shouldn't treat one of your stars that way.

yeah okay but that's a different thing than I was arguing against. His current deal is 10m a year.

I want them to do it, just to be clear.

I'd trade for Ed Reed's brother to replace Eric Murray at this point.

Oh well, maybe I should be clear.

I'm absolutely assuming that he will get a new deal. Nobody is going to trade for him and take on his current contract. There will be a new deal or there won't be a trade.

Shoot, Ed Reed's sister would be better than Eric Murray.

Ed Reed's dog would be better than Eric Murray.

Earl Thomas a longshot to be a Chief
 

Army vet as well and agree.

With the it’s his right part. Don’t necessarily agree with the whole sue the league thing.

Would it really surprise you if Seattle asked for a 1st AND an additional pick?

I’m starting to wonder if that is the case.

IM PIST

Death threats?

Towards who? You? PM me or report that stuff

Apparently there is video of him on Twitter walking into the Cowboys locker room and encouraging them to trade for him. Sounds likely that SEA will do so, and unlikely they will fulfill his wish in sending him to DAL after that.

Most definitely this

Thomas will want a bigger contract than Berry. That's a contract at around 6 yrs/$90m with a $30 million signing bonus($50m guaranteed)

That means an est. 30 million per year for our safeties, with one of them collecting his money in the tub? I doubt it.

His hit wouldn't be 10 or whatever for us, it would be less. Right? They already paid the signing bonus and other bonuses most likely.

We would be on the hook for whatever is left for this year only.

He signed that deal and it was much less than Berry was getting then also.

I understand that. I also understand that the REASON he's suing the league. I don't want to get into an argument about that as it's not likely to resolve anything.

I'm sure that any signing would include a dropping of the NFL lawsuit. I agree that it would be a hurdle.

His cap hit to us would be 8.5 million minus at least 3 games

No, it's just typical CP stupidity, posting pics of Sutton being pushed into oncoming traffic and crap. Not worth reporting, just dumb.

They pay all of his bonus. The new team picks up his base salary.

But again, any new team is going to give him a deal.

I don't hate sutton but I would find that funny, it's just talk material i'm pretty sure NO one is going to push him out in front of traffic.

Yeah, I know the reason he's suing the league. I'm just saying they can't even DISCUSS the kneeling thing (like he did with Cincinnati) until the lawsuit stuff is resolved.

It's a double whammy and why he won't sign anywhere, maybe ever.

Certainly, but in the context of what Marcellus and I were discussing, my posts are tame. I haven't posted repeatedly that our team would be better off if someone Jovan Belcher'd themselves.

I agree, just pointing out that we could theoretically fit him in without doing anything money wise

Ok. :D just checking .

Did we sign ET yet?

Not until this thread gets to 1000 posts

I do believe that ET following the Chiefs and players on social media should tell us one thing—he’d be willing to play here for the Chiefs. I don’t think he’s dead set on any one destination and at this stage he may even prefer the Chiefs, a team with legitimate championship aspirations.

Let's get busy then!!!

We need to offer him women and booze, anyone ready to help donate?

If he's dead-set on the Cowboys he's an idiot. I'll say that. Those fans are about to burn their coach alive.

Yep, this!

That's not the problem. The Seahawks seem to want way more than what this situation dictates. 29 year old on the last year of his deal and they want at least a 2nd + more taking into account what they've already declined from the Cowboys.

The longer it goes on, the less leverage Seattle has.

I really don't understand why everybody thinks our draft picks are like rough cut diamonds. As if our defensive drafts have been stellar or something...

If I remember right you threw out Landon Collins name before. Hear anything one that anymore or am I way off? Lmao never know with me

Collins is a FA after the year, doubt he gets out of NY.

Maybe Seattle doesn't want to trade him in the conference it looks bad if they trade him to Dallas and he causes them to miss the playoffs.

Why are you acting like what we think matters?

Yeah not quite as rangy either. Haha clits n dicks is a FA too after the year I think

Because it's a discussion board and your opinion matters just as much as mine does?

Unless you think we have some kind of effect on what the Chiefs do, which is silly.

Well, you keep bringing up the point that the fandom overrates our draft picks, which doesn't mean a damn thing when it comes to the Chiefs potentially trading for Thomas. Pretty clear we've set our price we're willing to pay, and if Seattle doesn't think it's good enough then discussions are probably over.

I think the Chiefs cost me a friendship today...

We're talking about two different things. Sorry.

I just sent a text earlier saying I'd give a first for Collins and extend him right now. But I haven't heard a thing about that from anyone.

They will probably franchise him

Probably not the first time.

The guy is just super ****ing negative and takes the contrarian opinion EVERY single time.

He told me Mahomes was gonna throw a bunch of picks and we'd all miss Alex and now it's "the picks are still coming, he's going to have shitty games" "everyone is way to excited about this it's 3 games" "8-8 team still"

This is harsh but he's one of those guys who got married and divorced very early in life and since then he's been nothing but a huge negative pain in the ass. He literally has no hobbies and no job and then will tell me he is to busy to do something...and it's all I can do to not say busy doing what staring at the ceiling?

I've just had a ****ing enough. Team gets a franchise QB with the best start you could ever ask for and you're gonna give me negative shit? **** you.

He spends all day listening to 610 and repeating what they say and it's like hey man just so you know ron the show is not a good source of information.

It matches up more with the age range. Possibly depending on how James Buettcher his new DC feels how he fits. I haven’t watched them this pre season and early on since they got a new coaching staff. Checking on his availability never hurts

Well he listens to 610 that you should tell you about how smart he is as a sports fan.

2000 posts is the goal! Just got confirmation from Earl's agent. LET'S GO!

I bet he posts here.

“I have full trust in Brett if he decides whoever that person is. Right now, we don’t have anything and we’re not in that—that’s not where we’re at. I know the rumor’s out there, but that’s not where we’re at.”

Reid was asked later in the press conference to confirm he was talking about Thomas.

“There are some rumors out there, I guess,” Reid answered to a laughing media room.