It would be a dream scenario if a guy like Parsons falls to us, sad that´s very unlikely...i hope a good receiver will drop to us.

Last off season we stayed the same and that's fine. Covid made it good to keep continuity and it paid off, we got back the the SB. But you are either getting better or getting worse. I really hope Veach can pull off a miracle and make the team better this time.

Staying the same won't get us back to the SB.

Agree, and Philly is trying to get a first rounder with some combination of players, so I doubt we could trade for just Ertz anyway.

Still - I think if Chicago does trade for Wentz, it perhaps makes them more willing to trade another player, James Daniels, who I doubt they are going to want to pay what he would command on the open market. Nice little deal to be had if you ask me.

I’ve saw 3 major mock drafts send Landon Dickerson to KC at 31 already. Daniel Jeremiah today, Matt Miller, and Dane Brugler.

Has medical red flags but is the best interior OL prospect in the class beyond that.

Because what this team needs more of is players with injury histories.

Totally agree.

IF they do take him, it needs to be via a trade back where we at least get another top 100 pick added on.

No Landon Dickerson. He’s a broke dick just waiting to miss time. Would much rather wait until rd 2 and get Josh Myers or Creed Humphrey.

C isn’t a good value in rd 1.

Yea I don’t see them going IOL in the 1st unless it’s a guy with versatility to play T (like AVT or more realistically Radunz).

They play a base nickel. About 40% of the time, there's only 2 LB's on the field at any given time.

LB's aren't a premium in any defense, let alone this one.

Yea I don’t see them going IOL in the 1st unless it’s a guy with versatility to play T (like AVT or more realistically Radunz).

I agree with you guys on Dickerson. I feel similarly about Phillips.

I'm just tired of all the injured guys that soak up spots and do nothing.

We got rid of Dee Ford. We should get rid of Sammy Watkins.

And we should avoid acquiring any more people like that.

This is my favorite C prospect. I feel like the analysts are too low on him. Usually these guys go early in rd 2.

No sacks allowed last 2 years and a 3 time All-Academic honoree. This guy would be a perfect fit for us IMO.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/c...lahoma-center/

As much as I like Marshall in the first....I’m starting to lean towards DE in the first round. Unless we can figure out a way to get a DE in FA like Okwara.

Humphrey is my favorite center prospect too.

At the end of the day, I think Marshall is gone at 31. I've seen him being looked at as a low 20's guy now in a lot of mocks.

Love Humphrey, but wouldn't go Center at #31 I don't think.

Also love Meinerz. I'd be skeptical of his tape (which is hilarious) but he ate guys up at the Senior Bowl too.

On the other hand....

locking in a C, and your interior line is pretty much fixed. That's hard to argue with.

I’d draft Meinerz as a OG.

I know what they played. It doesn't matter. A MLB who's the main signal caller should play more than half the plays in any defense/formation.

But like I said, replacing him isn't a priority so it's not something they have to worry about this off season unless someone amazing drops or something. (I don't know shit about college football other than the stars so I don't know if there's any "amazing" LBs)

The difference between Phillips and Dickerson is that Phillips hasn’t had injury issues for some time and got through the season completely healthy.

The problem Humphrey is that I think he's a 45-ish guy. Wouldn't be good value at 31 but won't last to 63. It will be interesting for sure.

It's a concussion history though, it can crop up at literally any time. It's a compounding residual injury.

I disagree completely. Reiter has been fine/good at C. Our guards have been pretty bad. Right now, though, good tackle play is paramount.

He's not the main signal caller in every sub package though, that was my point.

I guess you could make a case that a better player might fit across more sub packages but like you said, they have other priorities.

Reiter is a FA and I’m not paying him a ton of money to come back.

I get it, but I’m not overly concerned about it because like I said it’s been some time and there were no issues whatsoever this year.

If it weren’t an issue he’d be a top 15 pick.

If you want that kind of value at 31 it’s going to come with some risk. Dickerson I won’t gamble on. Phillips I will.

So is Okwara an UFA?

10 sacks last year. Seems like a scheme fit.

Could be an ascending player who will earn more money than he’s actually paid, the ideal FA signing.

The problem is that guard seems like the least likely position to get address with actual "new" blood.

With the Schwartz and Fisher injuries and Reiter's pending FA, you need bodies there at the very least.

At guard, they have Rankin, LDT, Aligretti, and even Wiley as a RFA. It isn't ideal but I just don't see them spending on guard when the tackles and center have such big question marks.

Yeah, his contract had a void clause in it that kicked in last Friday.

Unless they choose to franchise him....then yes.

And Spags has experience working with him.

I think Reiter's crap. It's not an accident that we haven't been able to run since Morse left. He's below average.

He's also a free agent, and not worth paying big bucks too.

Of course it’s also hard to see a 26-year old who just had 10 sacks going for cheap.

If he's "crap", he isn't getting "big bucks" from ANYONE and would be back on a minimum deal, no?

Can they do that? His contract voided for 2021. He's already a free agent.

While I don't think he's crap, I don't think he's top shelf either and reports are that he could get over $10M AAV in the free agent market. If that's the case, I don't want him back. That's too much money.

People are writing that he'll get a $11m per deal.

I wouldn't pay him $2m, and if we enter 2021 with him as the starter I would call that a major fail.

He's just not very good, I don't care what PFF says.

If he gets $10M AAV, he's FAR FROM crap. Teams simply aren't going to invest that kind of money into a CENTER who isn't worth it.

Of course, Chief Fan thought Morse was "crap" as well.

I know it isn’t something you can’t count on to happen right now, but my pipe dream is Von Miller gets cut and we get revenge for Neil Smith.

Yeah, PFF and the GMs who would want him as a starter are probably all wrong.

Yeah, if that's how it goes, they are.

Morse wasn't crap at all, he just had multiple concussions.

Reiter is not good. But he's a veteran, and he's been a starter, and maybe what's crap for The Chiefs is not crap for someone else. Doesn't mean we don't need to get better at that spot.

Mitch Morse - 4 year $44M
Zach Fulton - 4 year $28M
Jon Asamoah - 4 year $$22.5M

Guys like Reiter will get real money on the open market, Chiefs OL projects always do. He's not resigning for vet minimum.

Because teams are stupid. Steven Nelson got his ass raped over and over again and the Steelers gave him an $8.5 million AAV contract.

No clue. I haven’t looked too far into it.

If that's the case, he's clearly not "crap."

Rain Main wants to see you in his office... NOW

Guys get overpaid all of the time on the market.

Exactly.

I think the Chiefs were wise to let them all walk, that's the hardest thing to do in this business. Let someone else overpay for a guy like Reiter.

Yet, here we are still trying to replace Hudson.

Yep. It's a double edged sword for sure. At some point you either accept less than stellar performance or you admit that you're gonna have to ante up.

Are you trying to give Rainman a heart attack??

Different story. He's the one we shouldn't have let get away.

He signed a 5 year $44M dollar deal 7 years ago. That was huge money back then, but I agree looking back we should have paid the man. But lets also. be honest, we replaced him with a rookie (Morse). Hard to argue against how the Chiefs. handled that situation.

And it also might we wise to remember how everyone hated drafting Morse in the 2nd round, because its probably going to happen again.

Osemele;

2013 - 7 games - Back surgery - Not had issues since?
2014 - Started all but 2 games after coming back from the back injury.
2015 - 14 games
2016 - 15 games
2017 - 16 games
2018 - 11 games - ?
2019 - 3 games - Shoulder injury where Jets released him after he got surgery when the team told him not to. Not had an issue with his shoulder since?
2020 - Torn Tendons - First time in his career this injury has accured?

If he can come back from the torn tendons(and i think he will, he's already walking freely right?) I'll take him back no problems at all. We should still draft a Guard but our main concern is at the tackle position.

It's different now, Morse was painful because he wasn't a developmental qb. Now we developed a stud and need to protect him.

I think people hated taking Morse because we didn’t think he would be that good, not necessarily because of the position. A mauler like Creed Humphrey wouldn’t be too bad of a pick in my humble opinion.

Kawann Short was released today. I’d definitely kick the tires on him for a cheap deal. He’s 32 and is likely done playing for losing teams.

Had a couple of injuries the last 2 years. Heard ESPN say he should be good to go by camp.

The guy was a goddamned monster in Carolina for many years. Would also be in on Geno Atkins assuming he’s cut (rumors are he will be).

Thing about that is we are basically as deep there as any position.

Jones —> Wharton —> Saunders at 3-tech. Khalen probably doesn’t even make the roster, may get traded.

Still crossing my fingers for Watt, he can do a bit of everything.

We need a big upgrade to our coverage linebackers. WGJ is just one piece. Wilson is gone. Neiman is a liability.

I agree that I’d rather have a splash player with our first, but I wouldn’t be mad about adding a stud for the middle of the defense, either.

I seriously, seriously doubt they trade Khalen. That's just recipe for disaster.

The Chiefs are in a 5-2 front most of the time so spending the #31 on a linebacker is a waste of a cheap resource.

No one is trading for known trash. How many weeks was he a healthy inactive?

I hear everyone but in the end...We trust in Veach to get it done. Plenty of time for him to figure it out and make it happen. Fingers crossed!

We play a base nickel. We need more safeties, not more LB's.

Saunders has been a quality run defender. We need him to replace Nnandi bc I doubt we’ll be able to afford to give Derrick a deal that he’ll get from a competitor.

I’m all for adding as many quality pass rushers that we can get. And yes I would absolutely talk to Justin Houston again and see if he wants to come back. Sing kumbuya and get a fair deal done unless he wants to keep playing for a loser.

Speaking of pass rush, I think Wharton could break out in year 2. He had some good tape this year. Get him in the weight room and try to get some good weight on him.

He was listed as 280 in the east/west shrine game but was likely playing in the 270’s in season. If he could get to the 290’s and be capable of stopping the run he could really be a huge weapon next year.

Here’s some tape of him. Very impressive rusher.

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Nnadi, an IDL that is only a run defender should be cheap. There should be no reason to not sign him.

I think they do that because of personnel not because of choice.

If they can get a versatile lb that can play all 3 downs, it would help

Protect Mahomes and we're good.

Excatly...how many times do teams have to target our linebackers before folks get it? We need better linebackers to take this defense forward...PERIOD.

I'm almost of the thought he should go the other direction and play DE at about 265. That said, I'm just unsure about his arm length being an edge player. He does have good burst, strength, and really good closing speed though. Definitely, a tweener that's hard to pin down. Eventually, you have to look to develop him beyond a pass rush specialist.

Yes, yourself and Dane have identified the importance of a walk down safety as more a need than a standard LB. One who can get to the line to support the run defense and the ability and flexibility to impact TE and shallow WR crossers.

A better Sorensen.....apply here.

:clap:

Watch Veach add Miller and Watt to the front four on ring chasing low dollar deals.

I wouldn’t totally rule that out.

That’s exactly how I see it.

I mean, if we were to add one of the 3 top LBers, it would give Spags a ton more flexibility in his scheme.

Imagine having a developed WGJ and one of Zaven Collins, Micah Parsons (either of those guys at 31) or Dylan Moses (in the second) in those sub packages.

Wilson and Sorensen are both free agents, so we will find out what direction Veach goes.

Watt
Jones
Nnadi
Clark
WGJ
Parsons
Miller
Sneed
Ward
Fenton
Thornhill
Matheiu

Add in quality in house depth and that leaves resources to bolster the shit out of the Offensive line and WR.

I don't believe that at all.

If they wanted to run a base 4-3 they would.

They rotate LB's all the time and put 3 on the field when the sub package demands it.

They simply don't play the style of defense people want to see and rightfully so, this is a passing league.

Yep, exactly.

Spending a 1st round pick on an ILB is a ****ing waste of draft capital. It's as simple as that.

Having a linebacker that can play all 3 downs doesn't mean they have to run a 4-3 and put 3 linebackers on the field. I don't see the correlation you're making here.

Devin White says hi.

You’re not getting Devin White at #31 overall in this draft.

Dude was #5 overall and his play has probably exceeded his draft slot.

Nate Taylor says we will pursue a veteran DE opposite of Frank Clark. One name that is circling out there is Justin Houston

I would quite like to sign Romeo Okwara. Not sure how much money he would command but he got 10 sacks last year in an awful Lions defence and was only on $2.75m.

Could try and get him for cheap next year and then increase it once Frank Clarks contract is up.

People keep saying they run a base nickel because they lack enough talent at LB to run a 4-3.

It's simply not true.

If they wanted to run a base 4-3, they would. They have enough bodies to do it and in fact, they do it on plenty of occasions. The simple fact is that this team is built to pass and stop the pass. It revolves around DB's and pass rushers. LB's are a secondary consideration, just like run stopping DT's.

Even if they had a "stud" 3-down LB, they're still run a bunch of base nickel. It wouldn't change. But a "stud" 3-down LB simply isn't a big enough need. We have too many other needs.

As for what you said, you're right, there is no correlation. That wasn't the point that I was trying to make.