This is why I don’t get too pissy over players wanting their money and wanting the franchise tag eliminated.

This shit could be over for you in one damn play

If its bad, the game has to be forfeit i think. Whatever that outcome is. Tie, no game played, whatever. Neither team should be forced to play in that situation.

If he's okay, maybe they play Wednesday? But you really can't extend this for very long.

Good point. My math is off.

Another poster said the league may cancel games week 18 if Hamlin passes away. That sounds far fetched but it's possible also.

local reporters saying that hamlin is in critical condition, not that it's a huge surprise.

Pretty much the thinking of every fortune five hundred company out there.

10 percent seems low to me. Witnessed arrest with quick cpr and defibrillation

Whatever.. **** him

Every player should get what they can while they can in this crazy sport.

(Shut up, lex) <<—- kidding of course.

You’re correct.

But there has to be a bad guy!

I mean, from everything I read McDermott and Taylor forced the issue by taking their teams to their respective locker rooms. It really does sound like the NFL expected a 5 minute warm up period then resume play initially.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As an ER doc, I can 100% tell you that after cardiac arrest, CPR and defibrillation (AED), there is no way any provider will say Damar Hamlin is ‘okay’ anytime soon.<br><br>Cancel the game <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a>. Let people be together.</p>&mdash; Craig Spencer MD MPH (@Craig_A_Spencer) <a href="https://twitter.com/Craig_A_Spencer/status/1610104232904130562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What in the actual **** are you talking about?!?? There's 5+ minutes left in the first quarter...

The Bills need to forfeit. Rescheduling the game means CIN starts with the ball up 7-3. They'd probably lose anyway.

Wife is a CRNA and former Neuro ICU nurse. Has administered probably thousands of intubations and done plenty of CPR.

Her take is that 9 minutes of CPR doesn’t necessarily mean anything regarding brain damage as it just means they needed to continue getting blood flowing to brain until he regained consciousness. Good CPR for nine minutes when done quickly enough from beginning can lead to full recovery.

Says intubation occurred in ambulance and since they waited for the family he was likely critical but stable and either in and out of consciousness or conscious. Couldn’t imagine they would wait to go to the hospital if he remained unconscious, even for family.

Says going to ICU and being intubated means you are automatically listed in critical condition and is not an indication necessarily of severity. Says they will have to run tests for potential brain damage.

And?

who needs grace when there's retweets to be gotten. :shake:

Yeah, we're not infallible. Life is fragile. Obviously people even younger than Hamlin have had their hearts stop without any physical contact.

I think just canceling it is the right call. Not sure what the outcome should be or how it should be handled, but there’s no easy way to play this one.

Seeing speculation of torn aorta. I hope that's wrong

Dude.. who ****ing cares

They had a much better read on the situation than anybody in the NFL front office at that point given what they saw on the field and knew it wasn't appropriate.

Exactly this.

This is so sickening. I give a lot of kudos to ESPN for how they're handling this considering there's absolutely zero script.

Please God heal that young man.

Well to be fair it’s also why they make millions to play a game unlike first responders, military etc….I get the risk they play with but the reward is also large.

Life can be over for anyone and everyone given the wrong moment in time and it happens every single day.

Hug your family and loved ones when you can.

No, it would be an advantage for the Chiefs, assuming both teams win their last game.

14-3 Chiefs > 13-3 Bills

I thought both Buffalo and the Chiefs are playing on Saturday?

Not sure if you’re referring to me but I’m not outraged at all by any of the decisions that were made tonight.

My comment was made with the clear benefit of hindsight.

Man before Mahomes came along I was about to give up on football because like, I really don't like the idea of someone dying or suffering a life changing injury for my entertainment. I understand it's a violent sport but every time a player gets carried off the field in an ambulance I question why I watch this shit.

Really hope Hamlin is okay

****

It seems that would not be survivable.

And what?

Agreed 100% with all of this. Good post.

Well yeah that is protocol. Then they probably learned the injury was more severe than well almost every injury ever.

Stop piling on until we know the facts. Knee jerk reactions are not helpful. Calculated decisions while gathering facts is what is important.

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Just not sure why you quoted me.

No, Buffalo plays Sunday. NFL doesn't give a shit about competitive fairness.

It's even more complicated than that... Prayers to Hamlin, and hope he recovers, but from a logistic standpoint, this is a nightmare. Not only for the NFL and playoffs, but this was Championship week in Fantasy for millions of people and two of the best teams were playing with many teams having starters to decide championships. Again, not being disrespectful, just thinking about the nightmare of the situation for the players health, the NFL and fantasy leagues.

Just ****ing stop with Twitter Billay.

Those people are as dumb as you with posts like this.

Yeah would he still have a pulse after that though?

Again, thanks for bringing in the good professional information to the masses here. It’s much needed.

Which is again why I envision this getting played this week.

Not from Twitter

Apparently he has a toy drive that he raises money for. More than $100k has been donated in the last 10 minutes.

Yeah I think they actually did a gracious job in an incredibly stressful scenario where every word is scrutinized

There are 2 options. Play tomorrow or Buffalo forfeits is my guess. Can’t imagine anything else is an option.

Sure does help ESPN has their A team talent on tonight since it was a monster game with Buck and Van Pelt ready to go with SportsCenter afterwards.

Lisa Salters doing good reporting.

Yep.

They can push their other games back to Monday night.

Sure hope that kid recovers. Just awful. Prayers for that young man and his family.

The problem is, he has a pulse but is not breathing on his own. That means he will be put on a ventilator and from there, it could be hourse, days, weeks or months.

And then there's Skip

I do not know

the OCD part of can't accept this but

man this is a tough situation

Thanks for this. Still a reason for hope then.

What? Van Pelt is on my ESPN

That would be the nightmare situation...

Skip is such a shitheel

He is a prime example of a sociopath.

She’s been the best one

Just cancel the ****ing game completely.

Something like that probably ends up happening. Unless they decide to push their entire playoff schedule back a week but I'm sure that is the last thing they'd ever want to do.

Some people will never know when to stop the show.

I think you have to be correct UNLESS maybe if he dies

if he dies.. I really have no idea how they would handle that

Hopefully.

That means he has a chance.

Yes but then what?

Just watched the replay of the hit - and I'll preface this with I have little medical training - but it looked to me like the brunt of the hit was from the right shoulder onto the left chest area. I know that an impact hard enough on chest (from airbags or an NFL football collision) around the area of the heart is enough to stop it from beating....wondering if this is what happened

He's getting dogpiled right now like I've never seen before. Deservedly so.

Sigh. I just switched to youtube tv and it was recording the game...I must have accidentally switched it back.

I'm old and worthless...

I wondered if that was the case intitially but commotio cordis is the most likely scenario seeing as he got up, then collapsed.

figure it out tomorrow

He's on a ventilator until they can determine his cardiac issues. There's nothing surprising there.

I think he was just going on the situation of him being intubated and being in critical condition.

He clearly doesn’t know for certain but hopefully dude beats the odds. This sucks.

They only play 16 games. It's not rocket science.

Seriously?!!’

He had CPR and AED! He wasn’t breathing on is own!

Injury?

Both teams were distraught. They knew how serious it was.

Even right to pile on

Not spontaneously breathing after cardiac arrest is typical. People don’t typically just wake up.

10 percent just seems low to me, but we don’t really know anything.

I would say they can cut out the extra week before the Superbowl. I've always hated that anyway.

Seems that there are a few options and they all have drawbacks:

Play tomorrow night. This would disrupt both Bills and Bengals preparation for last week’s games;

Postpone it till this coming weekend: they could do that but it would disrupt playoff schedule. They could just cut one week between the championship games and theSuper Bowl but it would be a giant logistical headache.

Cancel the game. I would be neither team would want that because of the first seed in playoffs.

call the game. I expect Buffalo would oppose this for obvious reasons.

I think suspending the game was the right thing to do but there’s no obvious answer. Least disruptive answer would be play the remainder tomorrow night but that has some costs.

Buffalo forfeiting would cause a firestorm of controversy. You can't punish a team because this happened to one of their players. Not only is it grossly unfair but imagine the backlash it would cause.

Either replay the game or cancel it.

Its ok.. its been a bad nite.. I'm in shock over this..

Cancelling the game significantly affects like 5 teams in the AFC playoffs (and hurts the Bills more than anyone). Just so hard for me to see it happening.

I saw Darrelle Revis was yelling at him on Twitter. Everyone has a checkmark now so it's hard to tell who's who.