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RollChiefsRoll 01-24-2024 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17360182)
A blitz is not a blitz. Not every team that is blitzing is the same.

There are some QBs you can just blitz and they don't have an answer for it, period. Jackson isn't one of those now (and never had ZERO answers against the blitz).

But there are so many factors that separate teams as blitzers. There's the design and timing (where it comes from, how it is disguised, the effectiveness of the blitzer at timing the blitz, how it works with what the DL is doing).

There's also the matter of what's done behind the blitz. When you have a really effective back 7 that covers well AND is disciplined in getting to its responsibilities, it separates the blitz. In previous Chiefs years, you could try to beat the blitz by picking on a weak CB or LB or S in coverage. Those weak spots aren't really there now. The Chiefs have 2 excellent cover corners, 2 good cover corners behind them, good coverage skills at LB, and strong S play.



Do the 49ers have a better pass rush? They have bigger names. Nick Bosa is great. Chase Young was a top pick and has never quite lived up to the billing of that. Erik Armstead is a steady player but not a world beater as a pass rusher.

The Chiefs racked up more sacks (18.8% more, or about a 1/2 sack/game). Chris Jones is just as elite a defensive lineman as Nick Bosa. Charles Omenihu had as many sacks in 11 games as the 49ers' #2 pass rusher did in 16, and we haven't even got to George Karlaftis yet, who had as many sacks as Bosa and Jones.

The 49ers' DL has bigger names, but the Chiefs' DL has been better this year (and showed incredible discipline against the Bills, sacrificing pass rush wins/pressure to do the slow pocket push and try to keep Allen in the pocket).

The Lions have a pretty awful pass defense. They gave up almost 8 yards per attempt on the season - only the Bengals were worse. The Texans were just a shade better.

So none of the stuff you referenced about the 49ers or Lions has any relevance to how the Ravens and Jackson will fare against the Chiefs, actually.

Duncan from the ****ing top rope.

Bearcat 01-24-2024 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 17360187)
Duncan from the ****ing top rope.

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ChiTown 01-24-2024 10:55 AM

From the PurpleOrange Team:
 
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17360182)
A blitz is not a blitz. Not every team that is blitzing is the same.

There are some QBs you can just blitz and they don't have an answer for it, period. Jackson isn't one of those now (and never had ZERO answers against the blitz).

But there are so many factors that separate teams as blitzers. There's the design and timing (where it comes from, how it is disguised, the effectiveness of the blitzer at timing the blitz, how it works with what the DL is doing).

There's also the matter of what's done behind the blitz. When you have a really effective back 7 that covers well AND is disciplined in getting to its responsibilities, it separates the blitz. In previous Chiefs years, you could try to beat the blitz by picking on a weak CB or LB or S in coverage. Those weak spots aren't really there now. The Chiefs have 2 excellent cover corners, 2 good cover corners behind them, good coverage skills at LB, and strong S play.



Do the 49ers have a better pass rush? They have bigger names. Nick Bosa is great. Chase Young was a top pick and has never quite lived up to the billing of that. Erik Armstead is a steady player but not a world beater as a pass rusher.

The Chiefs racked up more sacks (18.8% more, or about a 1/2 sack/game). Chris Jones is just as elite a defensive lineman as Nick Bosa. Charles Omenihu had as many sacks in 11 games as the 49ers' #2 pass rusher did in 16, and we haven't even got to George Karlaftis yet, who had as many sacks as Bosa and Jones.

The 49ers' DL has bigger names, but the Chiefs' DL has been better this year (and showed incredible discipline against the Bills, sacrificing pass rush wins/pressure to do the slow pocket push and try to keep Allen in the pocket).

The Lions have a pretty awful pass defense. They gave up almost 8 yards per attempt on the season - only the Bengals were worse. The Texans were just a shade better.

So none of the stuff you referenced about the 49ers or Lions has any relevance to how the Ravens and Jackson will fare against the Chiefs, actually.

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mr. tegu 01-24-2024 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17359921)
Baltimore, you guys keep clinging to DVOA… that’s your right

I’ll keep remembering that Patrick Mahomes’ playoff career stat line is that of an MVP.

His numbers in playoff games alone would make him the unanimous winner of the award if lined up against this year’s options. Games against nothing but good to great playoff teams. LMAO


Ravens fans sound identical to Bills fans. Look at the EPA! Our DVOA! We want to play the Chiefs.

Narrator: But they wish now they didn’t play the Chiefs.

digger 01-24-2024 11:00 AM

(Insert Current teams Fan here): See were better than Mahomes, because blah blah blah...


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Lzen 01-24-2024 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17359549)
I do love it when fans are like "man they are so overconfident! We're going to shock them!"



You guys, we don't play in the game. Our confidence levels affect the outcome 0%.

Acting like we're all bandwagoners since we made 6 straight AFCCG, unfortunately no.

The bandwagoners don't post here. All of us are left over from the dark times. From the 30 years without a playoff win.

Before you even had a team.

To be fair, I think it was 22 years without a playoff win.

But yeah, for me personally, I've been a Chiefs fan since 1990 when they started becoming good and they started showing their games on TV. Been on this site for damn near a quarter of a century.

Lzen 01-24-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17359530)
Honestly, it boils down to something very simple.

The Ravens were without question the better team this year. More consistently dominant throughout the season, and they earned a lot of those flowers.

The hope for Chiefs fans rests on the fact that we have the best player in the league and experience. We've been in these wars before. We've fought the hot teams no one wants to play and vanquished them (Colts '18, Titans '19, Bills '21, Bengals '22). We've battled the teams with far better rosters (Niners '19, Eagles '22) and come out on top. We've had wars in the postseason that best resemble Balboa/Drago.

If you want to believe your eyes from the regular season, this game won't be close and the Ravens will run away with it. Easily. Not even close.

But if you want to appreciate this team's DNA and how it's played the last couple weeks and if you want to be mindful of the fact that this team has found ways to turn it out when it matters for multiple years in a row, then the Chiefs have every bit of a chance in this game.

The Chiefs fans have a history of watching this team overachieve in this situation. The Ravens fans want to believe that this current season's iteration thus far is the only thing that really matters.

Time will tell. I still think the Ravens win this game 60% of the time, but I wouldn't bet against Mahomes. A lot of people picked against the Chiefs last SB, were wrong, vowed to never bet against this team again, and have now spent the last 2 weeks picking against them again.

**** around and find out, perhaps.

Such a great post. :thumb:
The one game that really stands out to me is that Titans AFC Championship game from the 2019 season. Their superstar RB had been terrorizing opponents in their first 2 playoff games. And we shut down Derrick Henry in that game.

JPH83 01-24-2024 11:08 AM

I think the Ravens this year are better than the Eagles last year. Worse at WR but their LBs and secondary are a fair notch above. I don't think we'll score a lot, but I don't think they will either. Gonna be a close one.

Lzen 01-24-2024 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17359564)
They are typical overconfident fans that KC sees all the time. They think that because over here we aren’t crowning the Ravens as SB Champions already we are somehow giving bulletin board material.

There are some solid posters on the Ravens board I checked out, but the majority of it is essentially “We are gonna smash KC because our team is so awesome!”

Nothing different than we heard from Titans fans, Niner fans, Bills fans, Bengals fans, and Eagles fans to name a few.

Could they win? Sure. This isn’t the strongest Chiefs team of the Mahomes era. But a win (and blowout for that matter) is no guarantee.

I do know that if they lose the usual excuses will fly. “Rigged!”, “Scripted!”, “Swift!”, “Goodell!” etc. They are so confident of their superiority that a loss to the scrappy Chiefs is unfathomable. Nothing else will explain a loss but some sort of conspiracy.

No acknowledging that KC has played in 6 straight AFCCGs, 3 of the last 4 SBs while winning two of them. They are the defending champions for a reason.

Personally I love this position. KC has already won multiple Lombardis. If they win, I get to enjoy another SB. If not, I look forward to next year. A loss won’t be as devastating as it will be to the self crowned Ravens. Look at Buffalo fans and their despair and hatred for KC.

I respect the team and I really do like Jackson. If they win I will be pulling for them vs SF (if they make it). That respect doesn’t mean I will annoint them as some All Madden team that will blow out the Chiefs.

IMO, this will be a close game. If B'more wins, it won't be a blowout. That's just silly talk.

Kman34 01-24-2024 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17360215)
Such a great post. :thumb:
The one game that really stands out to me is that Titans AFC Championship game from the 2019 season. Their superstar RB had been terrorizing opponents in their first 2 playoff games. And we shut down Derrick Henry in that game.

I think Derrick ran for a TD and threw for one in the first half… Then we shut him down in the second… Mainly because they were behind…

DJ's left nut 01-24-2024 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17360215)
Such a great post. :thumb:
The one game that really stands out to me is that Titans AFC Championship game from the 2019 season. Their superstar RB had been terrorizing opponents in their first 2 playoff games. And we shut down Derrick Henry in that game.

For me it's the Eagles Super Bowl.

It took the ceiling off what any team with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid can accomplish.

Jalen Hurts played the best game he's ever played; maybe the best he ever will. The Eagles as a whole played incredible football. The first half couldn't have gone much better for them.

Didn't matter. With a less talented roster and with a miserable game script for the first half, Patrick came out there and got the job done. It was an all-time great performance.

And now it's one we KNOW he has in him. One that age and/or injury hasn't taken from him. It's there when he needs it. If he needs it Sunday, it's there for him again.

Is this Ravens team better than last year's Eagles team? I don't think it is. Does it match up better against us than last year's Eagles squad? I don't think it does.

And for all that, it wasn't good enough.

Time eventually makes fools of us all. Some day - perhaps this weekend - Patrick's gonna reach into his bag of tricks and find nothing more than an empty sack. It's gonna happen; it happened against Cincy in the 2nd half of the AFCCG.

But never count on it happening. Patrick Mahomes has entered the rarified air where you simply do not bet against him.

You can do so at your own peril.

staylor26 01-24-2024 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17360218)
I think the Ravens this year are better than the Eagles last year. Worse at WR but their LBs and secondary are a fair notch above. I don't think we'll score a lot, but I don't think they will either. Gonna be a close one.

I think there is a bit of revisionist history going on with people saying this.

The Eagles were absolutely loaded last year. Their OL was also better, their pass rushers were better, etc.

Maybe, maybe, they're as good, but better? I think that's a stretch.

DJ's left nut 01-24-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17360237)
I think there is a bit of revisionist history going on with people saying this.

The Eagles were absolutely loaded last year. Their OL was also better, their pass rushers were better, etc.

The Eagles secondary fell apart this season but it was at the peak of its powers last year. Bradberry was at/near a Pro Bowl level, Slay at/near All Pro level. Gardner Johnson and Marcus Epps were excellent for them.

And hell, even at LBer, I think we're forgetting how good Edwards and Reddick were for them. On the DL they had Hargrave, Sweat, Graham and Cox all playing outstanding football; at or near the best of their careers.

That Eagles defense was absolutely as good/better than this year's Ravens squad. And it's not just because of the names on the roster, but because so many of those names had seasons that met/exceeded anything they'd done before.

WilliamTheIrish 01-24-2024 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17360218)
I think the Ravens this year are better than the Eagles last year. Worse at WR but their LBs and secondary are a fair notch above. I don't think we'll score a lot, but I don't think they will either. Gonna be a close one.

The Ravens have a great team. Great defense.

But, they’re in the way.

Git out-the way, MF’ers.

seamonster 01-24-2024 11:25 AM

Baltimore fans are about 50\50 that the games a blowout. They're 80/20 that it's Baltimore -8. Unbelievable confidence against an Andy Reid team. Their DCordinator is young and this is the biggest game of his career. He's a big cover-6 guy that needs his starting four to bring pressure. Reid is a master at using motion to uncover what the defense is, and he's one of the best at carving up cover-3 and cover-6. I'd be surprised if this game was a blowout. And I can see that-- given Lamars' pitiful playoff history -- at some point the Ravens will be tight and will make a critical mistake. And if the game comes down to a last possession with Mahomes they're in trouble. Kelce is a pro at finding "green grass" and Mahomes has learned over the years -- thanks to Andy -- how to dissect disguised zone looks.

DJ's left nut 01-24-2024 11:28 AM

Does anyone know how the Chiefs have done against Base odd fronts this year?

I honestly have no idea. We sometimes struggle on the interior with stunts, a creative DC with a 3-4 setup can use a lot of the splits created by that odd front to their advantage to create confusion in the rush packages. When our OL is getting beat, it's because we're not picking up those switches on the interior very well and it has guys running into each other and leaving someone unblocked.

What teams have we faced this year that utilize a lot of 3-4 looks? Off the top of my head I can't think of many. I believe the Broncos still use a lot of 3-4 and that makes me a little uncomfortable given the ease with which they handled our offense this season.

Pepe Silvia 01-24-2024 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 17360242)
The Ravens have a great team. Great defense.

But, they’re in the way.

Git out-the way, MF’ers.

Move bitch.

CupidStunt 01-24-2024 11:31 AM

It's close with this year's Ravens vs last year's Eagles. I think the Ravens have over-performed a little, and they've definitely been on the right side of some game scripts with turnovers being a big deal. In other words, they've squeezed every drop of juice out of that roster.

But that's a credit to the coaching, both overall and specifically on defense. They've got a very good defensive roster, but Macdonald has them playing above and beyond.

Lamar is just straight-up better than Jalen Hurts, too. At everything. I've basically always been a hater, but we have to be fair. The two years prior to this he missed some games and his numbers were definitely more meh, but he's turned it up this year.

It'll be a tough game. I'm a lot less confident than I was last week and the week before, and yeah in the SB too. I thought we'd win that game. The narrative of Philly being such a superior team was never gonna sit well with 15. I guess it's too early this week to know how many people are picking KC to win.

Renegade 01-24-2024 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by digger (Post 17360184)
I want to be the first to congratulate the Lamar Jackson lead Ravens on being the first team to win a Super Bowl before wining a Championship game...


Good job Team...

I thought this was the Herbert led LA Chargers every year.

staylor26 01-24-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 17360255)
It's close with this year's Ravens vs last year's Eagles. I think the Ravens have over-performed a little, and they've definitely been on the right side of some game scripts with turnovers being a big deal. In other words, they've squeezed every drop of juice out of that roster.

But that's a credit to the coaching, both overall and specifically on defense. They've got a very good defensive roster, but Macdonald has them playing above and beyond.

Lamar is just straight-up better than Jalen Hurts, too. At everything. I've basically always been a hater, but we have to be fair. The two years prior to this he missed some games and his numbers were definitely more meh, but he's turned it up this year.

It'll be a tough game. I'm a lot less confident than I was last week and the week before, and yeah in the SB too. I thought we'd win that game. The narrative of Philly being such a superior team was never gonna sit well with 15. I guess it's too early this week to know how many people are picking KC to win.

Lamar has never in his career had a performance as impressive as Hurts in last year's SB, especially considering that it was the biggest game of the year on the biggest stage.

Lamar might be better, but it's VERY unlikely that he plays as well as Hurts did in that game, and that's the point.

DJ's left nut 01-24-2024 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17360270)
Lamar has never in his career had a performance as impressive as Hurts in last year's SB, especially considering that it was the biggest game of the year on the biggest stage.

Lamar might be better, but it's VERY unlikely that he plays as well as Hurts did in that game, and that's the point.

Exactly.

Maybe Lamar's better. I'll even say for the sake of argument that he IS better.

But is he going to have a better game than Hurts had in the SB last year? Nah - dude was on point.

In a one game sample size, I'll take Jalen Hurts game in the SB over what's behind door number 2 from any QB in the league OTHER than Patrick Mahomes. Because it's possible that Jackson or Burrow or Allen will play a better game than Hurts did that day, but it ain't very likely.

Ask the Ravens fans if they'd lock in Lamar's game this weekend as identical in productivity and efficiency to Hurts in the SB and in their minds they absolutely would. In their hearts, they know they can't. Because it won't be good enough - it wasn't for Jalen.

They need Mahomes to be off or they need Lamar to play a better game than he's ever played in his life. Either COULD happen, but again - betting on it will yield thinner odds than you'd think.

smithandrew051 01-24-2024 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17360274)
Exactly.

Maybe Lamar's better. I'll even say for the sake of argument that he IS better.

But is he going to have a better game than Hurts had in the SB last year? Nah - dude was on point.

In a one game sample size, I'll take Jalen Hurts game in the SB over what's behind door number 2 from any QB in the league OTHER than Patrick Mahomes. Because it's possible that Jackson or Burrow or Allen will play a better game than Hurts did that day, but it ain't very likely.

You also need to account for the defense that Hurts faced vs the defense that Lamar will face.

Those Eagles WRs also scared me much more than these Ravens WRs. Ravens WRs are fine, but I don’t see complete game wreckers like the Eagles had.

DrunkBassGuitar 01-24-2024 11:47 AM

Does Karlaftis really have as many sacks as Jones and Bosa? That's insane lol

Criticize Brent Beach all you want for his WR picks outside of Rice, the man knows how to draft a defense.

ArrowHeader 01-24-2024 11:50 AM

The Texans loss is overhyped. Young team making young mistakes. Tied at half. Needed CJ to be CJ and every time they had any progress they got killed on penalties. Shitty field position all day, and defense was on the field way too long. Good teams like Baltimore pull away at the end but Texans did themselves no favors in that game. The key to beating Baltimore has and always will be making Jackson uncomfortable. Spags will be sending heat all day. Mahomes just needs to play like he did against Buffalo. Keep it tight and productive.

ForeverIowan 01-24-2024 11:56 AM

Chiefs defense and Spags put the clamps down in the second half. Look at opposing teams second half point totals last 7 or 8bgames. If the Ravens are down 7+ going into the locker room at half they are in trouble.

Mahomes playoff record after being down 7+ if I saw the stat correctly is 8-2. That is a freaking ridiculous stat. If the Chiefs are down 7+ heading into the break we still have Patrick Mahomes.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-24-2024 11:57 AM

Pacheco DNP with a toe...

staylor26 01-24-2024 11:58 AM

Stroupe's already doing God's work again this week:


https://i.imgur.com/rN5e8US.jpg

Bearcat 01-24-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17360302)
Pacheco DNP with a toe...

I have 10 if he needs one.

TheGreatCassholio 01-24-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17360305)
Stroupe's already doing God's work again this week:


https://i.imgur.com/rN5e8US.jpg

They never learn

KCJake 01-24-2024 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 17360255)

Lamar is just straight-up better than Jalen Hurts, too. At everything. I've basically always been a hater, but we have to be fair. The two years prior to this he missed some games and his numbers were definitely more meh, but he's turned it up this year.

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there. Lamar is not "straight-up better" than about 5 or 6 QB's in this league. Completely over-rated player. People that know football, really know football, would be absolutely STUNNED if Lamar out plays Mahomes on Sunday. If we turn the ball over, if the Ravens run the football down our throats all day they can win. But it's the only two ways they win.

ThaVirus 01-24-2024 12:01 PM

The wording there is confusing. Is he saying Mahomes>Lamar or Lamar>Mahomes? You could really take that either way.

wachashi 01-24-2024 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17360270)
Lamar has never in his career had a performance as impressive as Hurts in last year's SB, especially considering that it was the biggest game of the year on the biggest stage.

Lamar might be better, but it's VERY unlikely that he plays as well as Hurts did in that game, and that's the point.

To add to this, the Ravens don't have AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith stretching the field. That gives Spags some more flexibility in how he can defend the Ravens.

staylor26 01-24-2024 12:06 PM

But wait, there's MOAR:


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ChiTown 01-24-2024 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17360305)
Stroupe's already doing God's work again this week:


https://i.imgur.com/rN5e8US.jpg

https://media1.tenor.com/m/y7nUjZy1z...royals_jun.gif

staylor26 01-24-2024 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17360313)
The wording there is confusing. Is he saying Mahomes>Lamar or Lamar>Mahomes? You could really take that either way.

Lamar is his teammate. He plays for the Ravens. I'll let you figure that out.

KC Hawks 01-24-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17360305)
Stroupe's already doing God's work again this week:


https://i.imgur.com/rN5e8US.jpg

Van Noy didn't really say that, but if Patrick believes it's real then good job, Bobby!

ChiTown 01-24-2024 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17360329)

One day, these dumbasses may learn, but I really hope they don't LMAO

staylor26 01-24-2024 12:10 PM

He keeps posting LMAO:


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smithandrew051 01-24-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17360301)
Chiefs defense and Spags put the clamps down in the second half. Look at opposing teams second half point totals last 7 or 8bgames. If the Ravens are down 7+ going into the locker room at half they are in trouble.

Mahomes playoff record after being down 7+ if I saw the stat correctly is 8-2. That is a freaking ridiculous stat. If the Chiefs are down 7+ heading into the break we still have Patrick Mahomes.

As long as we stay within 1 possession, I’ll feel confident.

Just stay within striking distance and trust Mahomes to make plays down the stretch.

RunKC 01-24-2024 12:12 PM

Not that fearful of the Ravens defense. Their best DL is Madubuike and our IOL is one of the strengths of our team. Christian Wilkins and Ed Oliver were erased. Complete nonfactors.
I think the OL playing as well as it has and that's gonna make the difference here.

Add that the Ravens can't cover TE's very well and there you go

Hammock Parties 01-24-2024 12:17 PM

If we lose it's not gonna be because of a LG.

Mahomes era.

carcosa 01-24-2024 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17360302)
Pacheco DNP with a toe...

The ground finally fought back??

Hoping this is purely precautionary........

St. Patty's Fire 01-24-2024 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17360124)
Someday? Maybe. Today? Nah. How many QBs are in the HOF who don't have a single Super Bowl appearance? Pretty sure it's just Fran Tarkenton. He's gotta win when it counts to get there.

didnt tarkenton lose a few sbs?

Hammock Parties 01-24-2024 12:18 PM

****, Pacheco has a toe?

S Mike Edwards (concussion), WR Skyy Moore (IR/knee), RB Isiah Pacheco (toe), RG Trey Smith (illness) and LG Joe Thuney (pec) won't practice Wednesday ahead of the AFC Championship game against the Ravens.

Basileus777 01-24-2024 12:18 PM

It is pretty funny to see people hyping Patrick Queen as some force when a year age even Ravens fans called him a bust.

dlphg9 01-24-2024 12:20 PM

Patrick Mahomes has pretty much dominated the Ravens in his career. 71.8% comp %, 370 pass yds/game, 3 TD/game, 0.5 INT/game. We've averaged 32.3 ppg against them and our only loss was by 1 point.

Mahomes gonna feast against these pussies and is gonna lead this team to an absolute blow out.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-24-2024 12:21 PM

As silly as it is our players do feed on the shade thrown in the media. They love it, it gets them out of bed in the morning.

staylor26 01-24-2024 12:22 PM

Pacheco was limping after that run before the Hardman fumble. Pretty sure that's when he hurt his toe. He came back and looked completely fine.

Mecca 01-24-2024 12:27 PM

Roquan Smith has been saying stupid shit for awhile, he told a reporter it didn't matter who won the Chiefs Bills game because "they have to come to the bank"

Don't think the stadium is playing the game for you man.

tredadda 01-24-2024 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17360358)
****, Pacheco has a toe?

S Mike Edwards (concussion), WR Skyy Moore (IR/knee), RB Isiah Pacheco (toe), RG Trey Smith (illness) and LG Joe Thuney (pec) won't practice Wednesday ahead of the AFC Championship game against the Ravens.

Didn’t Pacheco play in the SB last year with like a torn shoulder? Pretty sure he will play Sunday.

tredadda 01-24-2024 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17360338)

This is getting Burrowhead level ridiculous at this point. At least the Bengals had a reason to feel confident in beating KC.

Mecca 01-24-2024 12:33 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sunday. <a href="https://t.co/OPG9ReNzib">https://t.co/OPG9ReNzib</a></p>&mdash; Bobby Stroupe (@bobbystroupe) <a href="https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe/status/1750018022276739549?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

"They gotta see us"

Has Marcus Williams played against Mahomes cause dude is acting like he doesn't know what's coming.

irafreak 01-24-2024 12:35 PM

People predicting a ravens blowout should be laughed at. The only way...only way is the receiver's (most of whom are no longer a part of the gameplan) give the ball away for scores. This defense will not let a blowout occur so it only happens if the offense doesn't give them a chance to stop points with pick 6s or scoop and scores.

RunKC 01-24-2024 12:36 PM

Pacheco is fine. Also happy Willie Gay is practicing

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With Pacheco&#39;s toe injury that is keeping him out of practice, the Chiefs are not overly concerned. It&#39;s getting better and healthy. <a href="https://t.co/qNYJufkRq6">https://t.co/qNYJufkRq6</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1750218928947696034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

duncan_idaho 01-24-2024 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17360372)
Roquan Smith has been saying stupid shit for awhile, he told a reporter it didn't matter who won the Chiefs Bills game because "they have to come to the bank"

Don't think the stadium is playing the game for you man.


He’s going to be left feeling like he did his last year at Georgia. Frustrated they didn’t close the deal.

Mecca 01-24-2024 12:37 PM

Apparently in their podium exchange Lamar told Roquan "they don't win if they don't score"

They really feeling themselves huh?

duncan_idaho 01-24-2024 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17360379)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sunday. <a href="https://t.co/OPG9ReNzib">https://t.co/OPG9ReNzib</a></p>— Bobby Stroupe (@bobbystroupe) <a href="https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe/status/1750018022276739549?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

"They gotta see us"

Has Marcus Williams played against Mahomes cause dude is acting like he doesn't know what's coming.


He was part of the Saints secondary Mahomes carved up in the SuperDome.

Mecca 01-24-2024 12:40 PM

Well this should be solid, these guys acting like they just gonna come out and stomp Mahomes.

staylor26 01-24-2024 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17360387)
Apparently in their podium exchange Lamar told Roquan "they don't win if they don't score"

They really feeling themselves huh?

Oh my. Do you have a link to this?

Mecca 01-24-2024 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17360392)
Oh my. Do you have a link to this?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When Lamar Jackson passed Roquan Smith on his way to the podium, Jackson told him: &quot;If they don&#39;t score, they don&#39;t win.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jamison Hensley (@jamisonhensley) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamisonhensley/status/1750207615085301984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hopefully there will be a video.

wachashi 01-24-2024 12:45 PM

The Ravens play more Cover 4 and Cover 6 than most teams, especially on early downs.

Pretty interesting tool here: http://thekneeldown.westus.cloudapp.azure.com/

https://i.imgur.com/ja7rzNf.png

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-24-2024 12:47 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ravens QB Lamar Jackson was asked what he likes about going up against Patrick Mahomes:<br><br>“I don’t like competing against him at all.”<br><br>He continued, “He’s a great quarterback, definitely a hall of Famer — it’s a no brainer.<br> <a href="https://t.co/PY1XkIL0rl">pic.twitter.com/PY1XkIL0rl</a></p>&mdash; Arye Pulli (@AryePulli) <a href="https://twitter.com/AryePulli/status/1750209622114251148?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 01-24-2024 12:48 PM

It's interesting, I feel like Lamar tried to not say anything inflammatory while Roquan Smith is out here setting things on fire.

Whogotitbetter 01-24-2024 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17360134)
Yeah Demeco Ryans was an idiot for not putting Christian Harris as a QB spy on Lamar. These types of stupid defensive decisions gave Lamar everything he wanted multiple times.

Spags isn't gonna do that

Demaco did use a spy on lamar he made adjustments later on, this is why lamar is near unguardable at this point.

PurpleOrange 01-24-2024 12:55 PM

Mark Andrews set to return on Sunday

Mecca 01-24-2024 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whogotitbetter (Post 17360408)
Demaco did use a spy on lamar he made adjustments later on, this is why lamar is near unguardable at this point.

You have to have proper personnel.

You basically have to mush rush him mixed with a super athletic spy while sending extra guys at times, even if they don't get there you speed up his clock...On top of that you need to have a team that is competent in underneath zone because playing man leaves huge run lanes.

If you take away his reads to the middle he's going to panic, part of the reason people are like oh Andrews, Likely Flowers is because they run those routes..meanwhile Bateman gets nothing because he's outside the numbers where Lamar would prefer to not throw the ball.

KCUnited 01-24-2024 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17360401)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ravens QB Lamar Jackson was asked what he likes about going up against Patrick Mahomes:<br><br>“I don’t like competing against him at all.”<br><br>He continued, “He’s a great quarterback, definitely a hall of Famer — it’s a no brainer.<br> <a href="https://t.co/PY1XkIL0rl">pic.twitter.com/PY1XkIL0rl</a></p>&mdash; Arye Pulli (@AryePulli) <a href="https://twitter.com/AryePulli/status/1750209622114251148?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lamar just saved a touchdown with that answer

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-24-2024 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whogotitbetter (Post 17360408)
Demaco did use a spy on lamar he made adjustments later on, this is why lamar is near unguardable at this point.

Texans were really just undisciplined. Their DEs/OLBs gave up the Edge all day chasing something they could never catch inside, like Greyhound racing. It made no sense, Spags D should be way more disciplined than that.

DRM08 01-24-2024 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17360404)
It's interesting, I feel like Lamar tried to not say anything inflammatory while Roquan Smith is out here setting things on fire.

Same thing last week. Josh Allen and Mitch Morse tried to be nice. And then Dion Dawkins ran his mouth. I am surprised John Harbaugh wasn’t able to put a stronger leash on some of his guys to make sure they kept their comments as boring as possible.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-24-2024 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17360383)
Pacheco is fine. Also happy Willie Gay is practicing

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With Pacheco&#39;s toe injury that is keeping him out of practice, the Chiefs are not overly concerned. It&#39;s getting better and healthy. <a href="https://t.co/qNYJufkRq6">https://t.co/qNYJufkRq6</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1750218928947696034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We probably have some LP players, Gay, Nnadi? interested to see the full report, but this is a good start.

Hammock Parties 01-24-2024 01:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AFC Championship Trailer drops at 730 PM CST <a href="https://t.co/bIBfNUbuFY">pic.twitter.com/bIBfNUbuFY</a></p>&mdash; ��️ Red Tribe Cinema (@ClayWendler) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayWendler/status/1750233689240265007?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Johnny8 01-24-2024 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17360133)
Congrats dude. You have a HOF' QB.

You have no clue what's coming.

“You have no clue what’s coming.” Jesus we have some dramatics in the chat. Take a beat. We know what’s coming - a HOF QB.

With that said, 34-20 ravens.

New World Order 01-24-2024 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny8 (Post 17360436)
“You have no clue what’s coming.” Jesus we have some dramatics in the chat. Take a beat. We know what’s coming - a HOF QB.

With that said, 34-20 ravens.

The new Patriots are coming

Johnny8 01-24-2024 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurpleOrange (Post 17360127)
KC fans say Lamar can't handle the Blitz

I say here's what he did against the Blitz on Saturday

KC fans say yeah but that doesn't count because Houston isn't good.

So what else can I say? I guess we will see on Sunday.

It’s called moving the goal posts - it seems to happen a lot on this chat.

Mecca 01-24-2024 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny8 (Post 17360436)
“You have no clue what’s coming.” Jesus we have some dramatics in the chat. Take a beat. We know what’s coming - a HOF QB.

With that said, 34-20 ravens.

I mean..he's right.

Playoff Mahomes is something you aren't used to..how about Petty Playoff Mahomes?

digger 01-24-2024 01:19 PM

Ravens fans: 2>13
Everyone else: Math is hard...

Jerm 01-24-2024 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny8 (Post 17360436)
“You have no clue what’s coming.” Jesus we have some dramatics in the chat. Take a beat. We know what’s coming - a HOF QB.

With that said, 34-20 ravens.

Ok lol...

Nc_Chief 01-24-2024 01:23 PM

Should be a great game. The NFL two best Defenses This game could go either way. I will just pray that whoever wins comes out healthy for the sb.

I pray its the chiefs but could be the ravens.

staylor26 01-24-2024 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny8 (Post 17360436)
“You have no clue what’s coming.” Jesus we have some dramatics in the chat. Take a beat. We know what’s coming - a HOF QB.

With that said, 34-20 ravens.

Absolutely hilarious that you think you're dropping 34 on our defense.

But it's the Chiefs fans who are disrespectful LMAO

Lzen 01-24-2024 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17359882)
Rich Eisen can speak for himself. Like I said earlier in this thread: I was actively rooting for KC so that we can beat the best to cement this team’s legacy.

What if you could see into the future and saw that the Ravens will lose to the Chiefs? But then you could see an alternate reality, one where the Bills had beaten the Chiefs and then go on to get beaten by the Ravens? Also, the Ravens go on to win the SB. Careful what you wish for.


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