If you're actually a licensed professional of any integrity, you'd know that publicly labeling Rashee as a sociopath is blatantly unethical for several reasons. It also shows that your clinical judgement is even shittier than your football takes, which is a truly incredible feat.

Won't be any civil suit. He has insurance. These types of accidents happen everyday. Often.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">REPORT: The white cleats found in Rashee Rice’s car are a pair of Clyde “Sweet Feet” Livingston’s. The shoes had been stolen from a nearby charity event earlier that day. <a href="https://t.co/g3cik9DKoC">pic.twitter.com/g3cik9DKoC</a></p>&mdash; Fantasy Gazette (@FantasyGazette_) <a href="https://twitter.com/FantasyGazette_/status/1774527224596541930?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL wtf

I'm sure the police can solicit phone records since he's a person of interest due to owning the corvette. His cell was probably pinging along the road and wherever he went after. Still doesn't prove he was driving.

I wonder on the civil front, if the Chiefs will be sued/held liable for assisting him if there's proof he called in their fixers.

You think the Clarks are going to let anything bad happen to one of the franchise's finest within a Mahomes throw of SMU?

Dream on...laws are for people without money.

From what I can tell, leaving the scene of an accident that doesn't involve serious bodily injury is just a misdemeanor.

Again - maybe just blind dumb luck, but that seems to be all he'd be looking at for the moment.

Oh they'll rub cash on it FUR SHUR.

And that's IF they can prove he was driving.

Not after the Kareem Hunt deal.

I don't think Clark anticipated Cleveland picking him up .00001 seconds after we released him.

Just waiting for some gold diggers to roll up on Rashee now

That's probably the main reason I hate Dorsey, if we're being honest.

On the bright side I bet Clark and Andy put out a team PSA to ****ing knock off the dumb kid shit or we'll cut the next moron who pulls a Rice.

Get ahead of the offseason lull.

Nope, the hair and build is all wrong

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Twitter is reeruned.

"His career is over!"
"Cut him!"

Dude's gonna be back in uniform by October. At the latest.

We'll be fine.

As for Rashee - let's not do that again, my guy. This coulda been WAY worse.

We learned a hard lesson the easy way.

Put Rashee in a prius

I'm just imagining the group texts from Patrick and Kelce right now

"Hey IDIOTS. Take an UBER."

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From the same day, that is not Rashee Rice yall. <a href="https://t.co/zc6uKDs36A">pic.twitter.com/zc6uKDs36A</a></p>&mdash; Julio (NYY/x-NYR) (@RasheeTouchdown) <a href="https://twitter.com/RasheeTouchdown/status/1774592401065353261?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

shiiiit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">REPORT: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> star WR Rashee Rice has retained legal council and is expected to issue a statement tomorrow regarding his accident. <br><br>(Via CBS) <a href="https://t.co/G2eLVaLafI">pic.twitter.com/G2eLVaLafI</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1774617459485540491?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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That’s not how a licensed clinical psychologist diagnoses sociopathy.

That’s how I know you’re full of shit

lol both shirts are heritage racing and he's even got the same stache

rashee's definitely going to blame the fall guy

that's why he didn't get out of the driver's side

Truth. When I had a Prius I one time tried to race a van from a stop light. The van beat me and didn't even know I was trying to race him.

What is Heritage Racing?

Rashee appears to have lost some teeth in the accident

The driver's door was smashed. It probably couldn't open.

Of course, you're a Prius guy.

I did google. It's unclear to me if it's just a brand, like a Affliction, or based on a real thing.

The more I think about this the less sense it makes that Rice would just walk off. The actions do seem like those of a bunch of guys who stole the cars. Even if Rice was one of them why wouldn’t he hang with the vehicles since the cops would obviously know who owns the car and want to talk to him. Makes no sense.

I'm assuming he was drunk or high and perhaps thought that the penalty for being drunk/high would be worse than simply leaving the scene. If he is drunk/high he's also not thinking clearly.

But I dunno.

Yep. Big homo because I used to drive a economical car. But I got with Chiefshrink to pray the gay away and I'm now cured!

Is Leaving the Scene of an Accident Considered a Felony?

If an accident involving death or severe bodily injury and the individual chooses to leave the scene, this may result in felony charges. A third-degree felony in Texas can result in prison time from two to ten years and fines of up to $10,000.

A lesser felony charge may result if the injuries are less severe in a hit and run Texas accident. A lesser felony charge could still result in up to one year in jail or five years in prison and possibly a fine of up to $5,000.

When is Leaving the Scene of an Accident in Texas Considered a Misdemeanor?
If the total damages caused in the car accident cost more than $200, a class B misdemeanor may be charged, which can result in up to six months in jail. This can also apply if the driver hits an unoccupied vehicle or causes damage to a structure or landscape and fails to attempt to report it to the owner reasonably.

I was just ****ing with you. My brother did a LMGTFY to me the other day and I've been chomping at the bit to drop it on someone else.

Rashee Rice suspected in connection with major accident in Dallas
 

After all the speculation about him driving or not (he was) the response here will be pretty interesting after his statement acknowledges he was driving.

I doubt as a first offender he would get jail time for this but the point made earlier probably makes the most sense — they must have believed the penalty for staying was going to be worse than the penalty for leaving.

You know this how?

I think that if you win the Super Bowl you should be legally allowed to do drunken street racing

If the cars were stolen along with the shoes not sure guys would be casually walking away , none of the guys look like rice but pictures suck , add in the potentially stolen cleats , it just seems weird , leaving the scene to avoid DUI in a panick is plausible but doing it in what looks like a walk in The park seems weird .

That's great, but I'm still not clear if it's just a brand or if it has anything to do with actual racing. I'm guessing just a brand at this point.

I think you answered your own question here.

By leaving before the police arrived, he gave himself a chance to talk to his lawyer before making any incriminating statements or being charged with anything. He made it much more difficult on the police/DA wanting to charge him with anything.

If he was drunk or had anything illegal in the car (like, say, guns for instance), he'd be in a much bigger situation.

If he was driving the Lambo, it was dumb luck that the driver door didn't open and he had to get out of the passenger side. If there's no other footage of him driving, which may be the case with how tinted the windows were, they'll need to find clear evidence of him operating the vehicle to charge him.

occam's razor says they were high or drunk

Rice is in the video.

Because I don’t believe he climbed from the backseat to get out of front seat when the back seat was right there to get out where the other guy got out. I don’t believe they will turn this into a question on who was driving given that if it’s proven he was then things could get even worse for him. Not a good look to claim something that would become an obvious lie and attempted cover up once it’s proven.

He and his lawyers better be damn sure there are no cameras on that highway showing him driving that car if he’s going that route then.

I think owning up and taking your lumps is the right call.

He’s just asking for new evidence to come out if he lies. Then he’s in real trouble.

If he gets suspended for half the season, so what? We know the regular season doesn’t matter as long as we take the division (which we will barring injury).

He will not incriminate himself (fizzifth).

His buddies will not incriminate him.

The windows were super tinted.

They'll need video of him driving or getting into/out of the driver's seat.

He won't blame a fall guy, he just won't admit to anything or give any facts that he doesn't have to. I expect his statement tomorrow to be very vague, and when questioned by media he will say he can't comment on a pending legal matter.

The cops will ask him again and again if he was driving, who was driving, etc... , and he will say nothing on advice of his attorney.

Clarks better have a serious talk with Rashee.

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No way. Lie. Lie for longer.

ROFL WTF

ROFL

It's no laughing matter.

We don't need another Chief dying because he likes to drive fast.

Don't lie, Don't say shit.

If one of his buddies wants to step up and take blame, lie, whatever, that's their prerogative.

But Rashee needs to keep his mf'ing mouth shut if he wants to avoid charges.

If you don’t get caught, sure.

It sounds like the repercussions here are fairly minor.

Lying and getting caught will make things really bad for him. There’s a lot of people recording stuff at all times anymore. You never know what someone accidentally captured.

And that the other two with him at minimum, maybe even those in the other car, are completely on board and don’t flip. Also, who knows where they got in the car but if it was in a parking lot or some other public space it’s going to be on video. Might even be on video if they got in at Rice’s house.

They will admit he was driving and walked away because he was frightened and wanted to get off a dangerous road to call for help or something like that and decided to seek medical attention for the group.

Doesn't the prosecution have to inform them if they have video of Rice getting into the driver's side?

Footage of him getting in the drivers side wouldn’t prove he was driving at the time.

They could have plausibly switched somewhere along the way.

Down the line, after they've filed charges, during discovery.

What's going to happen (probably already happening/has happened) is they're back-tracking cameras along the entire journey of the cars from the point of origin.

If they have him getting into the vehicle's driver side, and can draw a straight line of footage without large gaps in time (in which he could have switched seats), then he's in trouble.

If he went through a toll and it took a picture that was stronger than his tinted windows, and it shows him driving, then he's in trouble.

Since no one from his crew spoke to police and lied or gave dumb statements (because they left) and if no one on the road can clearly point to him as the driver (again, his windows are blacked out), then they're going to need a first-hand reliable witness or footage.

He definitely won't be incriminating himself.

All this not speaking stuff might fly with the cops, but it won't fly with the Chiefs. They'll expect him to be honest, and they'll have their own investigators figure out what happened.

Sure. But they'll handle that in-house.

That said - I doubt they will ask him any questions that they don't want the answers to, because if they get subpoenaed they won't have plausible deniability.

Goddam do prosecutors love guys like this.

**** owning up and taking lumps - that's the prosecutor's job. Prove it or piss off.

Why is he "In real trouble" if he lies? He's in the same amount of trouble. There's some small chance that a local prosecutor may get a burr in his ass about being lied to, but that prosecutor's been lied to by 90% of the people he spoke with that day, from Defendants to defense attorneys.

And ol' Roger doesn't care either way. Lie, don't lie - whatever. Just don't get caught. And if you do, he's going to try to nail your ass to a wall either way.

Take your lumps...wow. No. Just hell no, man. If the prosecutor can't prove you committed any crime, why should you do it for him? And if you aren't sure if he can, well that's what disclosures are for. He's gonna have to tell you what he's got.

So say nothing, don’t lie when you don’t have any idea what they’ve got on you.

This is why CP rocks. ROFL

Legal bros are going to have fun with this.

Then you get to fight admissibility if you have to. And pick and prod and pull and just make life hell for the prosecutors. Foundation on cell phone videos alone is a pain in the ass in something like this.

Say nothing. Get your plea, probably do some community service and pay a fine. Maybe miss a few games in September.

Crazy to me how this has blown up.

He just needs to keep his mouth shut. See if they have the evidence to prove it. Making any statement at this juncture doesn’t serve any benefit.

It actually appears at this juncture ducking the cops was incredibly smart LMAO

Probably went to a Waffle House to get the story straight.

All his legal troubles aside... Rashee Rice will be suspended a certain amount of games for violating the NFLs Conduct Policy while fleeing an accident scene where people were hurt and even taken to the hospital. It doesn't matter how much he denies any responsibility, he fleed from the scene which is considered a hit and run.

Of course. But the idea that lying is somehow going to make things worse is inserting morality into the legal process. By and large it doesn't. It technically could - it almost never does.

Making a statement and saying nothing are not mutually exclusive.

There are a shitload of toll roads in the Dallas area. Hard to avoid them. There’s a decent chance they went through toll road areas during their journey. Bottom line is that he needs to keep his mouth shut and avoid lying.

My bet would be that he fairly quickly called up his agent who got him in touch with a lawyer.

Sure. A statement that he has no comment and won’t be making any statements at this time would suffice. His lawyers won’t let him comment or say anything about this without knowing what evidence they’re dealing with.

Yeah - nobody's gonna like this one.

I had a buddy get hammered, drive home and put his car into the corner of someone's garage. Guy called me freaking out and asked what to do - I told him to get the **** out of there. And ideally you don't go home. Go sleep in a church somewhere if you have to. Oh, and don't ****ing call me for awhile...

Make 'em find you. Oh they're gonna and you're gonna end up paying a pretty nice little fine (he did). But man that's a LOT better than the alternative.

Now there's a set of circumstances whereby he messed up by fleeing. But in a whole bunch of them, getting out of dodge is the right answer.

Okay, I've been pondering this today.

At the end of the day, he was in a traffic accident. Traffic accidents are mundane. Does anything make this different that your normal fender bender?

Well, a bit. It sounds like some people were injured, so his insurance is going to get sued. He (or whoever) was driving like a dumba**, so he'll probably get a fine, maybe even get his license suspended.

The bigger immediate legal issue is leaving the scene of an injury accident. I'm not sure what level of crime that it, but I'm sure it's a crime. I'm not sure if people get jail sentences for doing that, but if they do, they're probably minor.

Will the NFL get involved? I'd be kind of surprised. This was a dumb thing, but it doesn't trigger any NFL marketing stuff like a crime against a woman or whatever. The NFL doesn't care if it doesn't affect marketing.

So from a legal standpoint, what's going to happen? My hunch is that he doesn't get to drive for a while and he faces some fines that won't affect him much. Maybe he'll get some community service or probation.

The long-term question is why he left and if there's any truth to the rumor that they left because of the presence of guns or drugs, or because he was drunk or drugged up. If that's true (and we have nothing right now to prove that), then it's probably too late for him to get caught and punished - this time. But the bigger deal to me is that those things would be a huge red flag to the Chiefs going forward, and it would make him a risky player that we can't rely on. He may not get a second contract offer, or it'll be a lot smaller. And if it's true (again, no proof), there's a risk that he'll get yanked off the field without warning during his current contract at some point by getting caught doing something really stupid and illegal.

I propose that his legal ramifications won't be large, but he's going to be in the doghouse for a long while after this, and he probably cost himself some second-contract money and opportunities.

I was thinking the same thing earlier. This might be incredibly positive for the Chiefs. ROFL

We've got to get another SB before Kelce retires.

We can regroup in November when Rice returns.

All in all, from what we know right now, I’d say he’s incredibly lucky that it doesn’t seem like anyone was badly hurt or killed. That is huge. What’s more, from what little information there is right now it seems like there may be evidentiary challenges with the investigation and ultimately any case should charges be laid. If charges end up being laid, evidentiary problems combined with no one left seriously injured may pave the way for a favourable resolution.

No real shrink would diagnose someone they never met with sociopathy based on one incident like this. It is completely unethical to do so, so you are either a terrible shrink or a liar. I put my money on liar.


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Offseason speculation planet, guess we have some of that drama. Unwanted but it is what it is.

I think there is a lot of truth in this, and I’m hopeful that this is an instance of a young person getting together with other young people to do stupid things, and who will get to learn a hard lesson the easy way without life altering consequences (as opposed to this being just a scum bag human being for whom this is a way of life)

Thank you for the level-headed response.

You can just say "he good" next time.