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BWillie 12-28-2024 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 17880150)
It's been a long season. Let the man rest until the games count.

On a side note: I think Kareem is going to be a big psychological motivator for the rest of the team for the 3 peet run after his history and way he's come back and played with such character and endurance.

:rockon:

Kareem may be the hungriest of any player on the team. I remember when the police video or whatever got leaked and he was lamenting on his choices and was like damn I should be playing for the Super Bowl right now. It wasn't I should have many more millions. It was I want to win.

-King- 12-28-2024 01:26 PM

https://youtube.com/shorts/61vK6SbFI...CPrLMPbm6WoHwK

I just noticed that Kareem lined up right, went behind Mahomes to get the handoff left and then went right. Don't know if I've ever seen or noticed that before in any game.

Mecca 12-28-2024 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17880183)
Kareem may be the hungriest of any player on the team. I remember when the police video or whatever got leaked and he was lamenting on his choices and was like damn I should be playing for the Super Bowl right now. It wasn't I should have many more millions. It was I want to win.

Him and Hopkins this may be their last shot at a ring.

philfree 12-28-2024 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LagunaSWana (Post 17880101)
Does Hunt play next week? I expect Steele to get the majority of the snaps, with Perine and Hunt there to give him some rest.

Hunt does not play. He's earned the rest and he is our best RB at this point so we don't risk injury with him. We want him rested up and ready to go come game time of the divisional.

Deberg_1990 12-28-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17880189)
Hunt does not play. He's earned the rest and he is our best RB at this point so we don't risk injury with him. We want him rested up and ready to go come game time of the divisional.

This. Run Steele 40 times up the gut.

TEX 12-28-2024 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17880183)
Kareem may be the hungriest of any player on the team. I remember when the police video or whatever got leaked and he was lamenting on his choices and was like damn I should be playing for the Super Bowl right now. It wasn't I should have many more millions. It was I want to win.

Exactly. Without him, KC is not where they are this season.He's made a difference and he's in it for all the right reasons.

ThaVirus 12-28-2024 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LagunaSWana (Post 17880101)
Does Hunt play next week? I expect Steele to get the majority of the snaps, with Perine and Hunt there to give him some rest.

Isn’t there some practice squad bum we could elevate just for this game?

I’d like to go into the playoffs with Hunt, Pacheco and Perine healthy. They all offer something different and I think we’d be at our best being able to interchange them when the situation calls for it.

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17880187)
https://youtube.com/shorts/61vK6SbFI...CPrLMPbm6WoHwK

I just noticed that Kareem lined up right, went behind Mahomes to get the handoff left and then went right. Don't know if I've ever seen or noticed that before in any game.

That is pretty nifty. I didn’t notice it live so it’s possible I’ve seen it before and didn’t connect the dots.

Sassy Squatch 12-28-2024 05:49 PM

May just be me but doesn't look like that was designed. Somebody went the wrong way and they salvaged it.

Hammock Parties 01-19-2025 06:34 AM

It's a been a long journey. And the trail isn't ending here.

https://www.kansascity.com/latest-ne...011825_%20(24)

Hammock Parties 01-19-2025 06:36 AM

ass over teakettle baby LMAO

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/219...8aH9zRP9eUJuw=

Rausch 01-19-2025 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17920455)
It's a been a long journey. And the trail isn't ending here.

https://www.kansascity.com/latest-ne...011825_%20(24)

"I tell you to keep going, not because it's easy. Not because it doesn't hurt. I tell you to keep going because there's no other way. To stop is to die. Life is in motion. In growth. In change. Life is in seeking and in finding. Life is in redemption. Each moment is a new birth. A new chance to come back, to get it right. "

Rainbarrel 01-19-2025 12:09 PM

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BWillie 01-19-2025 12:21 PM

Man he played so well. Whenever we needed him he seemed to deliver. Hunt is RB1.

Deberg_1990 01-19-2025 12:32 PM

I thought a Pacheco had a couple of decent runs yesterday. Anyway, he can be the starter in name. But the Chiefs played it well yesterday and put Hunt in on key downs and short yardage plays.

Dunerdr 01-19-2025 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17920978)
I thought a Pacheco had a couple of decent runs yesterday. Anyway, he can be the starter in name. But the Chiefs played it well yesterday and put Hunt in on key downs and short yardage plays.

Inside the 15 I want hunt and 3rd and short I want hunt. 3rd and long I want perine. Pachecos the work horse for the rest.

Deberg_1990 01-19-2025 12:42 PM

Although yesterday was kind of baffling early when they tried throwing the ball to Pacheco. He’s never been a particularly good pass catcher. Hunt has much better hands.

teedubya 01-19-2025 02:21 PM

HUNt is HUNGRY... feed him.

dannybcaitlyn 01-19-2025 02:43 PM

Hopefully we bring him back on the cheap and draft another stud Rb.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-19-2025 03:25 PM

I feel really bad for Pacheco since he puts his body on the line every game he plays and gets destroyed, but after this season he's on the outside looking in.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-19-2025 03:37 PM

Kareem is a Chief next year. Give him a raise and lock him up. Such an awesome player and worth every penny.

Hoover 01-19-2025 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17921443)
I feel really bad for Pacheco since he puts his body on the line every game he plays and gets destroyed, but after this season he's on the outside looking in.

I don't feel bad at all. He's had an amazing run. He's been a key player on this offense. He's been embraced by Mahomes and Kelce. Dude has had an amazing run.

But remember. He's a 7th round pick. A great pick, but you can see it with Hunt, this offense would be much better if we had a more dynamic running back. And like I've always said, running backs are disposable. Draft one, run the wheels off, never give a second contract unless they are truly elite, keep your roster full of development talents young backs. Chiefs can improve the offense overnight if they spend modest draft capital on the running back position.

RINGLEADER 01-19-2025 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17921470)
I don't feel bad at all. He's had an amazing run. He's been a key player on this offense. He's been embraced by Mahomes and Kelce. Dude has had an amazing run.

But remember. He's a 7th round pick. A great pick, but you can see it with Hunt, this offense would be much better if we had a more dynamic running back. And like I've always said, running backs are disposable. Draft one, run the wheels off, never give a second contract unless they are truly elite, keep your roster full of development talents young backs. Chiefs can improve the offense overnight if they spend modest draft capital on the running back position.

Agree 100%. Great value pick but it's not like he's a 7th rounder playing like a 1st rounder. He played his role but we could absolutely upgrade there and he should absolutely not be getting the majority of the touches going forward.

RealSNR 01-19-2025 06:30 PM

There's still a valuable place for Pacheco on this team, but it's not as the starting RB.

ThaVirus 01-19-2025 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17922648)
There's still a valuable place for Pacheco on this team, but it's not as the starting RB.

I think everyone is too eager to forget about Pacheco. We were pretty satisfied with him as the starter outside of short yardage situations so I think you have to assume he’s the starter moving forward.

I think the injury is still affecting his production. He’s been like night and day since that point.

Deberg_1990 01-19-2025 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17922648)
There's still a valuable place for Pacheco on this team, but it's not as the starting RB.

Starter doesn’t matter. There is no true #1 guy.

Easy 6 01-19-2025 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17922795)
I think everyone is too eager to forget about Pacheco. We were pretty satisfied with him as the starter outside of short yardage situations so I think you have to assume he’s the starter moving forward.

I think the injury is still affecting his production. He’s been like night and day since that point.

Veach is putting him on the hotseat this offseason, guarantee it

We'll spend a third or fourth at the worst on RB because if you're not trying to improve, you're losing

Chris Meck 01-19-2025 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17922903)
Veach is putting him on the hotseat this offseason, guarantee it

We'll spend a third or fourth at the worst on RB because if you're not trying to improve, you're losing

Oh, I think it's time, and it's a good RB draft.

Easy 6 01-19-2025 06:57 PM

Can Jackson throw them back into this in the second half?

Many doubts remain...

Pitt Gorilla 01-19-2025 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17922924)
Can Jackson throw them back into this in the second half?

Many doubts remain...

He did a great job to get them 1st and Goal at the 2, and then the Ravens forgot they had Derrick Henry.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-19-2025 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17921470)
I don't feel bad at all. He's had an amazing run. He's been a key player on this offense. He's been embraced by Mahomes and Kelce. Dude has had an amazing run.

But remember. He's a 7th round pick. A great pick, but you can see it with Hunt, this offense would be much better if we had a more dynamic running back. And like I've always said, running backs are disposable. Draft one, run the wheels off, never give a second contract unless they are truly elite, keep your roster full of development talents young backs. Chiefs can improve the offense overnight if they spend modest draft capital on the running back position.

I know, I feel the same.

I know we treat and view most of our players as pawns that we dispose of as soon as they aren't useful, but I did really like the energy and attitude Pacheco brought to the team, and that he did anything we asked of him without complaint.

ThaVirus 01-20-2025 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17922903)
Veach is putting him on the hotseat this offseason, guarantee it

We'll spend a third or fourth at the worst on RB because if you're not trying to improve, you're losing

Maybe so. I just think we’ve got bigger fish to fry.

If there’s a back Veach loves at BPA then sure, but if BPA happens to be a WR, LT, RG, DE, CB, S, or even a TE then I’d probably consider those resources better spent.

nychief 01-20-2025 09:12 AM

I could see us signing Najee Harris or someone for a reasonable contract.

JohnnyHammersticks 01-20-2025 09:18 AM

This right here is the biggest difference between Hunt and Pacheco. Vision and patience.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-theme="dark"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can’t stop watching Kareem Hunt find the space on this play like a mouse.<br><br>When I pause the video guess which hole Hunt finds to go through. You probably wouldn’t expect it to be between Kelce and Thuney. But somehow he finds a way.<br><br>He has to get the ball more against Buffalo. <a href="https://t.co/iJPr7NHlaX">pic.twitter.com/iJPr7NHlaX</a></p>&mdash; Jason Anderson (@J810Anderson) <a href="https://twitter.com/J810Anderson/status/1881347104289050821?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ThaVirus 01-20-2025 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17924816)
This right here is the biggest difference between Hunt and Pacheco. Vision and patience.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-theme="dark"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can’t stop watching Kareem Hunt find the space on this play like a mouse.<br><br>When I pause the video guess which hole Hunt finds to go through. You probably wouldn’t expect it to be between Kelce and Thuney. But somehow he finds a way.<br><br>He has to get the ball more against Buffalo. <a href="https://t.co/iJPr7NHlaX">pic.twitter.com/iJPr7NHlaX</a></p>&mdash; Jason Anderson (@J810Anderson) <a href="https://twitter.com/J810Anderson/status/1881347104289050821?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That is ****ing poetry in motion. Wow.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17924816)
This right here is the biggest difference between Hunt and Pacheco. Vision and patience.

That 4th down conversion was another good example.

If you'll recall, there wasn't really a hole there, but he kinda rolled into the contact at the LOS, spun off the pile and got his legs under himself to drive forward for the needed yard.

Pacheco just doesn't do that. He'd have put both arms around the ball, ducked his head and slammed into that pile then churned his legs in the hopes of moving 1500 lbs of human being forward. And it probably wouldn't have worked.

Hunt is just a MUCH better 'technical' RB. He just does all the small stuff right.

Hammock Parties 01-20-2025 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17924875)
That 4th down conversion was another good example.

If you'll recall, there wasn't really a hole there, but he kinda rolled into the contact at the LOS, spun off the pile and got his legs under himself to drive forward for the needed yard.

Pacheco just doesn't do that. He'd have put both arms around the ball, ducked his head and slammed into that pile then churned his legs in the hopes of moving 1500 lbs of human being forward. And it probably wouldn't have worked.

Hunt is just a MUCH better 'technical' RB. He just does all the small stuff right.

https://www.profootballhof.com/pfhof...0.jpg?ext=.jpg

Hoover 01-20-2025 09:52 AM

Pop would have just violently ran into the back of people and hope the pile moved.

I have no problem with POP next year. He's under contract. But in a draft that's loaded with talented running backs you would be smart to grab one. I have no interest in adding a high mileage veteran back. We need youth at the position.

BigRedChief 01-20-2025 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17920961)
Man he played so well. Whenever we needed him he seemed to deliver. Hunt is RB1.

I'm so glad that Clark forgave him.

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17920978)
I thought a Pacheco had a couple of decent runs yesterday. Anyway, he can be the starter in name. But the Chiefs played it well yesterday and put Hunt in on key downs and short yardage plays.

Yeah, Hunt has earned and deserves more playing time.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-20-2025 10:20 AM

Hunt should be getting 75% of the snaps against Buffalo. If he isn't, I don't know what we're doing at this point. Perine should get 3rd downs and Pacheco will have to just settle for spot duty.

I love Pacheco to death and he has a role on this team next year, but he's simply not a starting RB in this league. He just doesn't have the vision and they never use him in the passing game, so clearly he's still not comfortable there. He's just never going to be what his athletic ability indicates he should be. Definitely need to nab a RBOTF in the draft, and I wouldn't mind taking one higher than some people would like. I hope they bring Hunt back for another season, too.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-20-2025 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17924816)
This right here is the biggest difference between Hunt and Pacheco. Vision and patience.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-theme="dark"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can’t stop watching Kareem Hunt find the space on this play like a mouse.<br><br>When I pause the video guess which hole Hunt finds to go through. You probably wouldn’t expect it to be between Kelce and Thuney. But somehow he finds a way.<br><br>He has to get the ball more against Buffalo. <a href="https://t.co/iJPr7NHlaX">pic.twitter.com/iJPr7NHlaX</a></p>&mdash; Jason Anderson (@J810Anderson) <a href="https://twitter.com/J810Anderson/status/1881347104289050821?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

From my pea-brain perspective, this is insane. There's obviously a LB waiting to close up that hole the moment Hunt steps through, but to find space between Thuney and Kelce? What the ever loving **** is that?

royr17 01-20-2025 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17922903)
Veach is putting him on the hotseat this offseason, guarantee it

We'll spend a third or fourth at the worst on RB because if you're not trying to improve, you're losing

What about Devin Neal ? Dad says he's just like kareem hunt. Probably could be gotten into third round unless he just blows up at the combine

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17924985)
From my pea-brain perspective, this is insane. There's obviously a LB waiting to close up that hole the moment Hunt steps through, but to find space between Thuney and Kelce? What the ever loving **** is that?

That's 'vision'.

He sees that Thuney didn't get the reach block. So most RBs (and definitely Pacheco) slam into that B gap where Thuney is clearly losing and the DL is going to step right into it as he gets there.

Hunt is a step ahead, sees the block has failed and does that slide to get around Thuney and allow him to re-set and stay between the DL and the ballcarrier. And he sees he has Kelce square on the seal block on the edge so he knows that ones probably safe.

It's less that he saw the hole -- he flat out created it by changing his gap after noticing that Thuney was losing over his inside shoulder so he used that DL's 'win' against him, moved to Thuney's outside shoulder and exploded through the hole.

It's just vision. He made that run.

Oh, and credit to Caliendo there. I don't know how the Chiefs do it, but that's a standard sort of 'identify the Mike' move where Caliendo knew exactly who to get to on the 2nd level, passed his man and got up there to take care of that other OLB and create the lane.

The critical blockers on that run were Kelce and Caliendo.

philfree 01-20-2025 10:30 AM

I appreciate what Pacheco has done as a Chiefs and Hunt coming in this year as well but watching offenses around the league I think it's pretty clear we need to upgrade RB going into next year. We need more speed and a threat to take it to the house on any given play. Imagine this team with Barkley or a similar player.

royr17 01-20-2025 10:32 AM

Pipe dream. Won't happen unless we draft a stud RB

philfree 01-20-2025 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 17925017)
Pipe dream. Won't happen unless we draft a stud RB

Upgrading RB?

royr17 01-20-2025 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17925026)
Upgrading RB?

I agreed that we need to upgrade that running back but I'm saying we won't sign one and free agency we will draft one in the long run they'll probably be as they've been doing mid to late round the passing game is the focal point of the offense but yes it'd be nice to have an early prime hunt or Charles

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-20-2025 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17925008)
That's 'vision'.

He sees that Thuney didn't get the reach block. So most RBs (and definitely Pacheco) slam into that B gap where Thuney is clearly losing and the DL is going to step right into it as he gets there.

Hunt is a step ahead, sees the block has failed and does that slide to get around Thuney and allow him to re-set and stay between the DL and the ballcarrier. And he sees he has Kelce square on the seal block on the edge so he knows that ones probably safe.

It's less that he saw the hole -- he flat out created it by changing his gap after noticing that Thuney was losing over his inside shoulder so he used that DL's 'win' against him, moved to Thuney's outside shoulder and exploded through the hole.

It's just vision. He made that run.

Oh, and credit to Caliendo there. I don't know how the Chiefs do it, but that's a standard sort of 'identify the Mike' move where Caliendo knew exactly who to get to on the 2nd level, passed his man and got up there to take care of that other OLB and create the lane.

The critical blockers on that run were Kelce and Caliendo.

On another rewatch, I'm not sure if Thuney "lost" this rep, Kelce kinda shoved Thuney's man into the B-Gap, killing it as a potential option. No idea if that's accidental or by design, but to react to that and assume that the C-Gap is the better option in that split second is still insane to me.

lcarus 01-20-2025 10:54 AM

Signing Kareem was the best move Veach made this year easily.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-20-2025 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17925010)
I appreciate what Pacheco has done as a Chiefs and Hunt coming in this year as well but watching offenses around the league I think it's pretty clear we need to upgrade RB going into next year. We need more speed and a threat to take it to the house on any given play. Imagine this team with Barkley or a similar player.

This whole idea that RBs don't matter was stupid to begin with. The Chiefs absolutely need to draft an impact runner this year, no question about it.

dannybcaitlyn 01-20-2025 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17924895)

Best goal line back I ever seen!

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17925084)
On another rewatch, I'm not sure if Thuney "lost" this rep, Kelce kinda shoved Thuney's man into the B-Gap, killing it as a potential option. No idea if that's accidental or by design, but to react to that and assume that the C-Gap is the better option in that split second is still insane to me.

Good point.

And honestly, I've said that a few times about Kelce this year. Sometimes he overheats that help, IMO.

It seems like he's supposed to be providing help to the outside shoulder but he comes in so hot that instead of protecting to the outside, he actually aids the guy getting to the inside.

I mean guys been in the league for over a decade - he is what he is at this point. But it does seem like Kelce does that a fair bit.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17925098)
This whole idea that RBs don't matter was stupid to begin with. The Chiefs absolutely need to draft an impact runner this year, no question about it.

We won 2 Super Bowls with a guy we would all very much like to replace. We won another with a guy who really never played again in Damien Williams.

I mean, they don't matter MUCH.

But we do appear to have hit a tipping point with them.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-20-2025 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17925186)
We won 2 Super Bowls with a guy we would all very much like to replace. We won another with a guy who really never played again in Damien Williams.

I mean, they don't matter MUCH.

But we do appear to have hit a tipping point with them.

I get all that, but how has our offense looked the past few years while cycling through these JAGs? Pretty unimpressive if we're being perfectly honest. We've been carried by our defense and clutch plays by Pat/Kelce when needed.

Look at the difference a great RB has made in Philly. This offense could get back to new heights if we ever actually invested in that position. We need to change things up a bit on that side of the ball, and getting a dynamic back would go a long way towards doing that. Pat hasn't had a true elite back since Kareem's first time around. It's wearing on him, and I think it's time we give him some support back there.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17925221)
I get all that, but how has our offense looked the past few years while cycling through these JAGs? Pretty unimpressive if we're being perfectly honest. We've been carried by our defense and clutch plays by Pat/Kelce when needed.

Look at the difference a great RB has made in Philly. This offense could get back to new heights if we ever actually invested in that position. We need to change things up a bit on that side of the ball, and getting a dynamic back would go a long way towards doing that. Pat hasn't had a true elite back since Kareem's first time around. It's wearing on him, and I think it's time we give him some support back there.

At the same time, we've gone through those last 2+ seasons with a group of pass catchers that has been various parts disappointing and injured.

It's just hard to say how much of that is because of the RB. The offense looked fantastic for most of 2022 and did it without a premier RB. It just doesn't seem like that's the real lynchpin.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-20-2025 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17925221)
I get all that, but how has our offense looked the past few years while cycling through these JAGs? Pretty unimpressive if we're being perfectly honest. We've been carried by our defense and clutch plays by Pat/Kelce when needed.

Look at the difference a great RB has made in Philly. This offense could get back to new heights if we ever actually invested in that position. We need to change things up a bit on that side of the ball, and getting a dynamic back would go a long way towards doing that. Pat hasn't had a true elite back since Kareem's first time around. It's wearing on him, and I think it's time we give him some support back there.

It depends on your team and your win condition.

That Philly team already had a stout OL and continued to invest in it, and it compliments Jalen Hurts dual-threat nature. You throw in a special RB like Barkley in there and it makes too much sense.

Same with Baltimore. They already had a great offense that complimented Lamar's ability to run and throw. Then you add Henry, and the RPO between the freight train that is Derrick Henry and the shifty Lamar Jackson who can throw off play action or run to the edge makes too much sense.

Our win condition is Patrick Mahomes throwing the football. Running the ball in our offense has always been very vanilla, run it between the IOL and get dirty yards to compliment our passing attack. Or we either Jet Sweep to the outside or throw horizontally to a quick guy to grab some easy yards. A dynamic RB would be nice to have, but honestly would be wasted on the kind of offense we like to run. It's why we spend resources the way we do.

Even when we DID decide to road grade it early in the season, it was entirely out of necessity. Losing Hollywood and Rice and Worthy still going through his rookie stuff killed our passing attack. Kelce is great, but he can only do so much when it's just him and no one else. And even when we did focus heavily on the run, it wasn't even good. It was barely enough to get us over the hump. We CAN run the ball a bit, but it's not our win condition. Patrick is.

DenverChief 01-20-2025 12:17 PM

This is how well Hunt sees the field. Pacheco would have just plowed into the back of an O-lineman

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can’t stop watching Kareem Hunt find the space on this play like a mouse.<br><br>When I pause the video guess which hole Hunt finds to go through. You probably wouldn’t expect it to be between Kelce and Thuney. But somehow he finds a way.<br><br>He has to get the ball more against Buffalo. <a href="https://t.co/iJPr7NHlaX">pic.twitter.com/iJPr7NHlaX</a></p>&mdash; Jason Anderson (@J810Anderson) <a href="https://twitter.com/J810Anderson/status/1881347104289050821?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

philfree 01-20-2025 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 17925074)
I agreed that we need to upgrade that running back but I'm saying we won't sign one and free agency we will draft one in the long run they'll probably be as they've been doing mid to late round the passing game is the focal point of the offense but yes it'd be nice to have an early prime hunt or Charles

The draft is absolutely the way to go. We need youthful speed that is hungry. Adding that will only help Mahomes and the passing game. We won't change our identity we'll just be better at what we really like to do. Obviously we need to fix out OTs as well.

philfree 01-20-2025 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17925297)
It depends on your team and your win condition.

That Philly team already had a stout OL and continued to invest in it, and it compliments Jalen Hurts dual-threat nature. You throw in a special RB like Barkley in there and it makes too much sense.

Same with Baltimore. They already had a great offense that complimented Lamar's ability to run and throw. Then you add Henry, and the RPO between the freight train that is Derrick Henry and the shifty Lamar Jackson who can throw off play action or run to the edge makes too much sense.

Our win condition is Patrick Mahomes throwing the football. Running the ball in our offense has always been very vanilla, run it between the IOL and get dirty yards to compliment our passing attack. Or we either Jet Sweep to the outside or throw horizontally to a quick guy to grab some easy yards. A dynamic RB would be nice to have, but honestly would be wasted on the kind of offense we like to run. It's why we spend resources the way we do.

Even when we DID decide to road grade it early in the season, it was entirely out of necessity. Losing Hollywood and Rice and Worthy still going through his rookie stuff killed our passing attack. Kelce is great, but he can only do so much when it's just him and no one else. And even when we did focus heavily on the run, it wasn't even good. It was barely enough to get us over the hump. We CAN run the ball a bit, but it's not our win condition. Patrick is.

Adding a better more explosive RB will only help that condition. And of course this RB will be a good receiver as well so he'll be part of the winning condition.

RunKC 01-20-2025 12:44 PM

Andy gave him 3 weeks off and then only got him 8 carries and 1 target vs Houston.

He’s going to unleash this guy on Buffalo. He’ll get us nice carries the way he did the first game in Buffalo when he had 14/60 with 4.3 YPC.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-20-2025 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17925506)
Adding a better more explosive RB will only help that condition. And of course this RB will be a good receiver as well so he'll be part of the winning condition.

I don't disagree with that, usually it doesn't matter as long as they're a good football player, they'll help you win.

But imagine Derrick Henry in this offense. He needs to be fed the ball 20-30 times to get the most use out of him. Are we really going to take the ball out of Mahomes hands 20-30 times a game? It doesn't work with us, not nearly as well as it does with other teams.

Deberg_1990 01-20-2025 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17925506)
Adding a better more explosive RB will only help that condition. And of course this RB will be a good receiver as well so he'll be part of the winning condition.

Chiefs could have had James Cook over Skyy Moore. 😂

But almost anyone would have been better than Skyy

philfree 01-20-2025 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17925521)
I don't disagree with that, usually it doesn't matter as long as they're a good football player, they'll help you win.

But imagine Derrick Henry in this offense. He needs to be fed the ball 20-30 times to get the most use out of him. Are we really going to take the ball out of Mahomes hands 20-30 times a game? It doesn't work with us, not nearly as well as it does with other teams.

Henry is not a fit for this offense so I wouldn't even go there.

philfree 01-20-2025 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17925524)
Chiefs could have had James Cook over Skyy Moore. 😂

But almost anyone would have been better than Skyy

No need to rehash the past because everything is always in front of us not behind us.

ghak99 01-26-2025 05:55 PM

He looks ready to roll tonight.

FlaChief58 01-26-2025 06:04 PM

If the Chiefs win it all, Hunt will be a huge reason they do.

Bump 01-26-2025 06:16 PM

Hunt's game is elevated tonight!

He has never been to a Superbowl and you can tell he wants this really bad. Keep feeding him, or just keep doing what they are doing because it's all working except the RPO

Wisconsin_Chief 01-26-2025 06:18 PM

Kareem needs to be playing 95% of the snaps tonight.

TLO 01-26-2025 07:19 PM

Is he hurt?

PHOG 01-26-2025 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17936839)
Is he hurt?

He went out for 1 or 2 plays, and then was back in, on that drive anyways.

TLO 01-26-2025 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17936858)
He went out for 1 or 2 plays, and then was back in, on that drive anyways.

Thanks

BlackOp 01-26-2025 11:43 PM

One of the best parts of this season...awesome redemption arc.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-26-2025 11:46 PM

Dude is such a Chief next year I don't even care. I love Kareem man. I really like Perine too. I darn sure wouldn't over pay Pacheco if it comes down to it.

Hammock Parties 01-26-2025 11:47 PM

Kareem was on Westwood postgame and he was very emotional. Sadly my recording didn't make it all the way through.

RINGLEADER 01-26-2025 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17939798)
Kareem was on Westwood postgame and he was very emotional. Sadly my recording didn't make it all the way through.

Beautiful.

Rainbarrel 01-26-2025 11:59 PM

Everytime Kareem kicks a woman now their cellulite disappears

RINGLEADER 01-27-2025 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17939820)
Everytime Kareem kicks a woman now their cellulite disappears

Look! Juju’s petals!

carcosa 01-27-2025 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17939793)
Dude is such a Chief next year I don't even care. I love Kareem man. I really like Perine too. I darn sure wouldn't over pay Pacheco if it comes down to it.

Pacheco seems to be different since the broken leg. His greatest strength was running hard as hell but the juice isn't there right now. Would be a bummer to see him go since he seems like a nice guy and he's done a lot for the team, but he's certainly not a lock to stay around long term.

TheGuardian 01-27-2025 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17939870)
Pacheco seems to be different since the broken leg. His greatest strength was running hard as hell but the juice isn't there right now. Would be a bummer to see him go since he seems like a nice guy and he's done a lot for the team, but he's certainly not a lock to stay around long term.

He's def not the same player since then. Maybe after a full offseason but I'm good rolling with Hunt and Perine into next season and getting someone else to replace Pacecho who can actually find a hole.

Hammock Parties 01-27-2025 04:10 AM

go watch our last TD drive

Kareem threw two HUGE blocks on blitzers on the big throw to JuJu and the 2 point conversion

BWillie 01-27-2025 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17922795)
I think everyone is too eager to forget about Pacheco. We were pretty satisfied with him as the starter outside of short yardage situations so I think you have to assume he’s the starter moving forward.

I think the injury is still affecting his production. He’s been like night and day since that point.

But why do we value how good a RB is outside of short yardage? I would rather have the guy thats always gonna get you that yard imo.


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