Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17839699)

Walker Little replaced Cam Robinson. Another LT that took years to develop.

Are we seeing a pattern here?

Originally Posted by Mahomes007 (Post 17839389)

How to not hold it against BV? He constantly overpays the wrong players that end up underperforming substantially relative to their contracts. Or just flat out overpays relative to market, like Creed Humphrey. Creed and his agent damn near raped BV.

The worst part is the average fan would recognize this before the fact. Before they even played a down as a Chief. That it was not good value for contract and/or picks traded. Frank Clark, Jawaan, MVS, etc. Even the likes of Justin Reid and Joe Thuney were overpays. And I'm sure Noah Gray could have been had for less.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17839470)

I hate that I keep coming back to this conclusion, but I really think Kingsley looked good because the guys he went against every day just...suck.

I mean we have ZERO speed to test him against (and those are the guys that really give him fits). And even someone like Danna doesn't have advanced technique - he's a motor guy. Hell, what little bit of bend/explosion we had at DE almost died on the field. He looked credible against Malik Herring and Mike Danna.

The staff's confidence in him was almost certainly misplaced due to really poor competition opposite of him. I just can't see any other viable explanation.

Originally Posted by Mahomes007 (Post 17839389)

How to not hold it against BV? He constantly overpays the wrong players that end up underperforming substantially relative to their contracts. Or just flat out overpays relative to market, like Creed Humphrey. Creed and his agent damn near raped BV.

The worst part is the average fan would recognize this before the fact. Before they even played a down as a Chief. That it was not good value for contract and/or picks traded. Frank Clark, Jawaan, MVS, etc. Even the likes of Justin Reid and Joe Thuney were overpays. And I'm sure Noah Gray could have been had for less.

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17839711)

There have been plenty of OTs taken recently outside the top 10 that stepped in and immediately provided competent or better play.

2021: Rashawn Slater and Christian Darrisaw
2022: Tyler Smith
2023: Broderick Jones
2024: Amarius Mims

Acting like any OT we draft would need years of development to even be playable is a bit weird.

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17839711)

There have been plenty of OTs taken recently outside the top 10 that stepped in and immediately provided competent or better play.

2021: Rashawn Slater and Christian Darrisaw
2022: Tyler Smith
2023: Broderick Jones
2024: Amarius Mims

Acting like any OT we draft would need years of development to even be playable is a bit weird.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17839512)

I think Mitch is overstating the issue.

Taylor isn't just screaming up the arc and camping. Even in the Mahomes GIF thread, you see about half his sets deep but almost always square to the rusher (i.e. the rusher went up the arc, Taylor went with him) or maybe a stride off Smith.

Which is, y'know, a pocket. That's how OTs play. They give ground to lose slowly. Then occasionally you'll see obvious RPO blocking where they form that wall in case Mahomes hands the ball off, but those are quick throws and the blocking set doesn't matter as much.

Taylor doesn't set overly deep from what I can see. He's setting the pocket almost exactly where you'd want to set it for a shotgun offense. Yes, it's deeper than some teams will set their pockets (i.e. the Ravens) but that's because that's how our offense operates. Mahomes isn't coming from under center.

You can argue that he's early out of his stance sometimes and by reacting rather than reacting, sometimes he gives up his inside shoulder, but to connect that to Smith getting beat is an awfully tenuous connection. When that happens, we can see it and KNOW it's Taylor giving it up. And to say "Well Smith is aware that COULD happen and so he's watching his outside shoulder and it's making him lose on the inside..." Oh c'mon - that's a bridge too far. That's some person in an interview saying "My biggest flaw is that I work too hard and care too much..."

No, Smith is not getting beat because he's worried about the occasional instance of Taylor getting beat inside. That just doesn't make any sense. And to act like it's happening play in, play out and is clearly the CAUSE of Smith's struggles - I'm sorry, but that's just excuse making.

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17839910)

Is there a good reason Stanley only got a year's extension at what looks like a pretty cheap deal? Injuries? Seems unlikely they'd want to move on from him but I really wouldn't mind him landing here for a year or 2.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17839470)

I hate that I keep coming back to this conclusion, but I really think Kingsley looked good because the guys he went against every day just...suck.

I mean we have ZERO speed to test him against (and those are the guys that really give him fits). And even someone like Danna doesn't have advanced technique - he's a motor guy. Hell, what little bit of bend/explosion we had at DE almost died on the field. He looked credible against Malik Herring and Mike Danna.

The staff's confidence in him was almost certainly misplaced due to really poor competition opposite of him. I just can't see any other viable explanation.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17839470)

I hate that I keep coming back to this conclusion, but I really think Kingsley looked good because the guys he went against every day just...suck.

I mean we have ZERO speed to test him against (and those are the guys that really give him fits). And even someone like Danna doesn't have advanced technique - he's a motor guy. Hell, what little bit of bend/explosion we had at DE almost died on the field. He looked credible against Malik Herring and Mike Danna.

The staff's confidence in him was almost certainly misplaced due to really poor competition opposite of him. I just can't see any other viable explanation.

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 17839945)

I agree with this take:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;DJ Humphries is going to be the most 𝗜𝗠𝗣𝗢𝗥𝗧𝗔𝗡𝗧 player in the NFL going forward.&quot; 😯<a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MattVerderame</a> tells <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tuckerdfranklin</a> that Humphries can help the Chiefs offense &quot;explode&quot;.<br><br>(fueled by <a href="https://twitter.com/Holladay1856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Holladay1856</a>)</p>&mdash; KC Sports Network (@KCSportsNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCSportsNetwork/status/1863973719565279711?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 17839945)

I agree with this take:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;DJ Humphries is going to be the most 𝗜𝗠𝗣𝗢𝗥𝗧𝗔𝗡𝗧 player in the NFL going forward.&quot; 😯<a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MattVerderame</a> tells <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tuckerdfranklin</a> that Humphries can help the Chiefs offense &quot;explode&quot;.<br><br>(fueled by <a href="https://twitter.com/Holladay1856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Holladay1856</a>)</p>&mdash; KC Sports Network (@KCSportsNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCSportsNetwork/status/1863973719565279711?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17839992)

That bye looks more and more important by the week. And we feel more and more likely to piss it away by the week lol.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17839997)

We're gonna get it done my guy.

I'd bet Kelce or Mahomes or Jones have already told the guys, win these next four and we have two weeks off. They're smart, they know the grind now will be worth it later.

DJ will help make it a reality, or even if Thuney has to play LT for another week.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17840001)

Slow down fellas. He’s gonna struggle against Myles Garrett. Everybody does.
That guy is the best pass rusher in the league. Man is a goddamn alien.

Expecting a guy coming back from an injury to look good against him right off the bat is expecting a bit too much IMO

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17840001)

Slow down fellas. He’s gonna struggle against Myles Garrett. Everybody does.
That guy is the best pass rusher in the league. Man is a goddamn alien.

Expecting a guy coming back from an injury to look good against him right off the bat is expecting a bit too much IMO

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17839989)

I think there's a fairly good chance DJ looks really good for at least the first few weeks.

Big man has fresh legs. He hasn't taken any bumps and bruises yet. Similarly might be why Omenihu was able to make an instant impact.

The key is getting him through the gauntlet, however many games it may be. BYE would be immensely helpful.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17840001)

Slow down fellas. He’s gonna struggle against Myles Garrett. Everybody does.
That guy is the best pass rusher in the league. Man is a goddamn alien.

Expecting a guy coming back from an injury to look good against him right off the bat is expecting a bit too much IMO

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17840005)

It's all relative. I'm not suggesting he is going to shut Myles down. And damn Andy Reid if he doesn't give him help all day in that matchup.

But what I do expect is for the offense to function just fine and score enough to win. Not sure that would be the case if Wanya or Kingsley play.

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17840044)

I'd be happy if he can provide Donovan Smith level protection...that at least enabled us to win a super bowl.

Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17840094)

I still think Chiefs FO should bring back Donovan Smith as insurance, protecting Mahomes has to be THE #1 FRANCHISE PRIORITY. He can probably be had for cheap at this point, too. Morris and Kingsley cannot see the field anymore as a tackle, perhaps at guard but not tackle.

As some have stated, we don't want to 'Andrew Luck' our Pat

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17840095)

Ok, but who do you cut?

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17840095)

Ok, but who do you cut?

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17840123)

Oh man. Looking at the draft forums mock drafts and posts.

Lot of folks wanted Kingsley at 32. Hoo boy if we did that LMAO

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17840160)

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17840141)

We also acknowledged that he needed a year to develop. That’s still the case. What shocked everyone was the coaching staff putting him on an island right away with little to no help whatsoever. The kid will get it figured out sooner or later. I still think the tools to be a plus starter are there.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17840160)

Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 17840165)

Who are you quoting on that Clay?

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17840169)

My innermost desires

Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 17840165)

Who are you quoting on that Clay?

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17840173)

Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 17840179)

So hopes and dreams? Got it. Saw someone on your twitter feed said it was Nate Taylor, but couldn't find anything anywhere and just wanted to know if there was a legit report I was missing or if you were trying to speak it into existence, which I'm all on board with!

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 17840168)

Well...that is last news the 31 other teams wanted to hear. ;)

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17840199)

Are you just openly creating fake new stories now? (Or...again?)

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17840199)

Are you just openly creating fake new stories now? (Or...again?)

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17840189)

Clay with the update...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">����������������: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> LT DJ Humphries has been &quot;a human wall” and “a Roaf-like headache” for the Chiefs pass rushers so far in practice. He has rarely allowed any pressure and is continuously pancaking defenders.<br><br>Humphries seems to be Mahomes’ favorite blocker so far in… <a href="https://t.co/f5den9OREK">pic.twitter.com/f5den9OREK</a></p>&mdash; ��️ Red Tribe Cinema (@ClayWendler) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayWendler/status/1864354457141612806?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17840242)

He looks like EB in that picture, at least in the face.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17840245)

Considering this time of year all practices are non contact I can't imagine what can be garnered from any practice.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17840261)

Pretty sure the "report" is fake.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17840261)

Pretty sure the "report" is fake.

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17839711)

There have been plenty of OTs taken recently outside the top 10 that stepped in and immediately provided competent or better play.

2021: Rashawn Slater and Christian Darrisaw
2022: Tyler Smith
2023: Broderick Jones
2024: Amarius Mims

Acting like any OT we draft would need years of development to even be playable is a bit weird.

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17840242)

He looks like EB in that picture, at least in the face.

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17840242)

He looks like EB in that picture, at least in the face.

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17840189)

Clay with the update...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">����������������: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> LT DJ Humphries has been &quot;a human wall” and “a Roaf-like headache” for the Chiefs pass rushers so far in practice. He has rarely allowed any pressure and is continuously pancaking defenders.<br><br>Humphries seems to be Mahomes’ favorite blocker so far in… <a href="https://t.co/f5den9OREK">pic.twitter.com/f5den9OREK</a></p>&mdash; ��️ Red Tribe Cinema (@ClayWendler) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayWendler/status/1864354457141612806?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 17840404)

They don't pancake teammates in practice in the 14th week of the season. Dumb and fake.

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17840413)

And Clay still cant figure out why people don't take him seriously.

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17840471)

Have there been offensive linemen this year that HAVENT been a headache for the Chiefs d line?

It's kind of the reason the performances have been rather stinky. No pressure on qb, compromised secondary, not a good recipe for success.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17840530)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My impression from the Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes pressers here is that DJ Humphries will start on Sunday night vs. LAC barring a setback.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1864369716086575451?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17840530)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My impression from the Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes pressers here is that DJ Humphries will start on Sunday night vs. LAC barring a setback.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1864369716086575451?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17840189)

Clay with the update...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">����������������: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> LT DJ Humphries has been &quot;a human wall” and “a Roaf-like headache” for the Chiefs pass rushers so far in practice. He has rarely allowed any pressure and is continuously pancaking defenders.<br><br>Humphries seems to be Mahomes’ favorite blocker so far in… <a href="https://t.co/f5den9OREK">pic.twitter.com/f5den9OREK</a></p>&mdash; ��️ Red Tribe Cinema (@ClayWendler) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayWendler/status/1864354457141612806?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17840645)

I mean the fact that, unsolicited, he mentioned DJ when asked if he knows who the starter for this weeks Chargers game would be, suggests that yeah - he REALLY wants DJ to start this game.

I suspect it's on DJ. Gotta get a couple more padded practices in to see how he's moving laterally and make sure he can handle some ramped up activity, but I think if DJ gives a thumbs up, Andy's gonna put him in there.