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SithCeNtZ 01-05-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16710889)
What do you find so ridiculous?

They postponed the game and as of yet haven't made any determination further.

They're playing all week 18 games.

That's what the NFL has done.

We are 2 full business days clear of the event and nothing has been decided or even hinted at when anyone will know anything. The fact that the Chiefs could theoretically play once in the next 23 days and not play a playoff game yet OR play 4 times in the next 24 days and clinch a super bowl birth is ridiculous. We have no idea which situation is more plausible because no one knows anything. This is a billion dollar industry that probably thought they could find a magical solution to make everyone happy but when they found out they couldn't, they have chosen to just stay silent on the matter. It's wild you have teams playing their last game of the year not knowing what the stakes are.

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16710906)
The Bengals would still be playing for the 2 seed regardless of what KC does. If the Bills had beaten the Bengals, the Chiefs would not rest anyone due to the fact that the Bills would still have a shot to lose to NE in week 18. These scenarios have been covered many times here this week.

Not to mention the fact that if you want to complain about game order--

If the Bills had beaten the Bengals and then the Chiefs lost to the Raiders, the Bills would have the 1 seed and wouldn't have to try against the Patriots, which would gift them a playoff spot. How ridiculous is that for the Dolphins and Steelers who are in competition for that last playoff spot?

The above a much bigger problem in the game order than what we're facing because - as mentioned endlessly - Cincy benefits massively from potentially having the 2 seed. They guarantee themselves a home game if they end up facing the Bills and have a very legitimate shot at hosting an AFCCG if the Chiefs slip up in the divisional round.

And now at least the Bills are forced to actually play for something this weekend regardless of how the Chiefs game ends up.

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 16710910)
We are 2 full business days clear of the event and nothing has been decided or even hinted at when anyone will know anything. The fact that the Chiefs could theoretically play once in the next 23 days and not play a playoff game yet OR play 4 times in the next 24 days and clinch a super bowl birth is ridiculous. We have no idea which situation is more plausible because no one knows anything. This is a billion dollar industry that probably thought they could find a magical solution to make everyone happy but when they found out they couldn't, they have chosen to just stay silent on the matter. It's wild you have teams playing their last game of the year not knowing what the stakes are.

I'm confused. Is any team less incentivized in its game this weekend than it otherwise would be? The Chiefs - in a normal scenario - already would have no idea whether they would be playing 1 time in the next 9 days or 1 time in the next 15 days or 2 times in the next 15 days or 3 times in the next 22 days. Is the added uncertainty of your scenarios going to change the way they plan or prepare or play on Saturday, and if so, how and why?

Bearcat 01-05-2023 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16710889)
What do you find so ridiculous?

They postponed the game and as of yet haven't made any determination further.

They're playing all week 18 games.

That's what the NFL has done.

Social media is pretty awful at times like this, because all the speculation makes it seem like the NFL needs immediate answers if for no other reason than for people to shut the hell up about what might happen.... but I do hope the NFL actually learns from it.

It's not the end of times that they don't (seemingly) know what to do right now, but really, they should have already known to a large extent how to handle it. Companies have entire departments dedicated to worst case scenarios that may never happen.

And hell, maybe the NFL did have a plan and for whatever reason went off script, or maybe this is the plan and one day we'll learn what happened and it'll somehow make sense. :shrug:

BigRedChief 01-05-2023 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 16710621)
Given it sounds like the Bengals have been fully on board with not resuming this week this is the only thing that makes sense. Bills lose a chance at one seed but that could have been the case no matter what by their game. The Bengals and Ravens get a bit screwed as well but the Ravens probably had no chance of winning without Jackson anyways. Those hoping for a Patriots loss aren’t as happy depending on what the Bills but again that could have been the situation anyways. But I’m guessing Bills might play anyways.

Why not? They should feel confident they can beat the Bills. They have beat us 3X in one year so far, twice in our house. Until we knock them off, they have every right to their swagger.

irafreak 01-05-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 16710779)
Yeah but that's not a political thing. Brett Favre is probably the complete opposite politically but he's also a huge activist against kids playing football.

There will be plenty of kids wanting their shot at fame and fortune. Football won't go anywhere in our lifetime. Don't care how bad it gets. Kids want to play sports. Lots of kids out there.

BigRedChief 01-05-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16710927)
Social media is pretty awful at times like this, because all the speculation makes it seem like the NFL needs immediate answers if for no other reason than for people to shut the hell up about what might happen.... but I do hope the NFL actually learns from it.

It's not the end of times that they don't (seemingly) know what to do right now, but really, they should have already known to a large extent how to handle it. Companies have entire departments dedicated to worst case scenarios that may never happen.

And hell, maybe the NFL did have a plan and for whatever reason went off script, or maybe this is the plan and one day we'll learn what happened and it'll somehow make sense. :shrug:

I just cant believe they didn't already have a plan for a serious life threating injury to a player, a coach drops dead from a heart attack etc.

Terrorism. a fan brings a gun in and gets mad and shoots opposing teams fans or players. etc. etc.

Sassy Squatch 01-05-2023 08:47 AM

I think the Ravens and their fans would be content with Jackson even playing at this point, not worrying about what seed they get in the playoffs. According to the Athletic Harbaugh expected Jackson back by now so things may be headed for an ugly divorce.

"He (Harbaugh) clearly thinks Lamar should be back. He's trying to stay out of it and take the high road."

IamBATMAN 01-05-2023 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16710939)
I just cant believe they didn't already have a plan for a serious life threating injury to a player, a coach drops dead from a heart attack etc.

Terrorism. a fan brings a gun in and gets mad and shoots opposing teams fans or players. etc. etc.


TwistedChief 01-05-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16710927)
And hell, maybe the NFL did have a plan and for whatever reason went off script, or maybe this is the plan and one day we'll learn what happened and it'll somehow make sense. :shrug:

I'm sure they have vague plans for this sort of thing on some level - covid naturall required them to go above and beyond in terms of thinking about contingencies - and the plan for multiple game cancellations was to add an extra week to the regular season and push the playoffs back a week.

As this is only one game and I'm sure pushing everything back is not ideal, they're in a fuzzier place. But it's not like everything is completely cookie cutter in this situation as it relates to the teams, the relevant seedings, and time of the season, etc.

SithCeNtZ 01-05-2023 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16710925)
I'm confused. Is any team less incentivized in its game this weekend than it otherwise would be? The Chiefs - in a normal scenario - already would have no idea whether they would be playing 1 time in the next 9 days or 1 time in the next 15 days or 2 times in the next 15 days or 3 times in the next 22 days. Is the added uncertainty of your scenarios going to change the way they plan or prepare or play on Saturday, and if so, how and why?

The teams themselves yes want to win, but individual player choices can absolutely be impacted. Take Lamar and the Ravens. If they get a bye week next week they might just decide the game isn't worth it and let him get another week or two rest. Or maybe you roll the dice and play him twice in 9 days. I bet there are lots of choices that could hang in the balance of a random bye week being added to the schedule. To say this doesn't impact any strategy because the teams generally want to win is simply not correct.

BigRedChief 01-05-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by IamBATMAN (Post 16710945)
FBI enters the chat....

ROFL
Those overseer's already know who bigredchief really is, my whole history, what my co-workers, neighbors think about me. And because of a leak, so do the Chinese. :mad:

DrunkBassGuitar 01-05-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 16710910)
We are 2 full business days clear of the event and nothing has been decided or even hinted at when anyone will know anything. The fact that the Chiefs could theoretically play once in the next 23 days and not play a playoff game yet OR play 4 times in the next 24 days and clinch a super bowl birth is ridiculous. We have no idea which situation is more plausible because no one knows anything. This is a billion dollar industry that probably thought they could find a magical solution to make everyone happy but when they found out they couldn't, they have chosen to just stay silent on the matter. It's wild you have teams playing their last game of the year not knowing what the stakes are.

I'm a supervisor at my job, I have 6 people that report to me. If I were to drop dead today, they would know immediately what to do there'd be a plan. I work 100% remote, if the VPN I log into shut down or like there was a regional internet shutdown, there's a plan. How the hell the NFL has no contingency for a game not being completed is beyond me. The NFL took days to figure out what to do if a blizzard hit one of the snowiest cities in the country. Remember the Chiefs Rams game in Mexico city and how long it took to figure out what to do if the field conditions were too bad to play on? It's insane how much shit the NFL just wings lol

smithandrew051 01-05-2023 08:56 AM

Someone has probably made this point, but I’ll reiterate anyway.

Just because WE don’t know the plan, that doesn’t mean that the NFL doesn’t have a plan in place. It’s very possible the League and teams already know what’s going to happen and it just hasn’t been made public.

They might have already had all of the conversations and made all of the decisions that we want them to make. They just haven’t told us.

I assume that they’re waiting to release any information until Friday afternoon, so the news will move on once the Saturday games start.

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 16710951)
The teams themselves yes want to win, but individual player choices can absolutely be impacted. Take Lamar and the Ravens. If they get a bye week next week they might just decide the game isn't worth it and let him get another week or two rest. Or maybe you roll the dice and play him twice in 9 days. I bet there are lots of choices that could hang in the balance of a random bye week being added to the schedule. To say this doesn't impact any strategy because the teams generally want to win is simply not correct.

I think that's absolutely ideal. Every team is similarly in the dark whether the playoffs will begin the following weekend as per normal or not. That seems entirely fair and exactly as the NFL - who wants competitive games - would want it, no?


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