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ReynardMuldrake 12-02-2021 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15987058)
Anybody have Docusign? Yikes. I’ve seen plenty of buy recommendations on it but I didn’t like it.

The problem with companies like that is they have no moat. What's special about Docusign? Any software company can do what they do.

neech 12-03-2021 08:40 AM

The chart on DOCU drops straight down practically.

lewdog 12-03-2021 08:53 AM

Here we go some more!

Made 3% on a day trade and now sitting out the rest of the day. Too choppy and I’m not giving away my capital.

Hammock Parties 12-03-2021 08:56 AM

****ing AMC. Dumping this loser before close.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-03-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15987841)
****ing AMC. Dumping this loser before close.

Bought 5 more shares at 29.50

mr. tegu 12-03-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987835)
Here we go some more!

Made 3% on a day trade and now sitting out the rest of the day. Too choppy and I’m not giving away my capital.


Nice. Everything dropping quickly out of the gate again in my long term stocks. Numerous 6% drops.

lewdog 12-03-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15987841)
****ing AMC. Dumping this loser before close.

Keep guessing and buying stocks in clear down trends, cow!

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-03-2021 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15987852)
Nice. Everything dropping quickly out of the gate again in my long term stocks. Numerous 6% drops.

Opportunity pounding on your door bro. You gonna open?

Hammock Parties 12-03-2021 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987863)
Keep guessing and buying stocks in clear down trends, cow!

Better to buy too soon than too late.

I won't lose money on this you son of a bitch.

petegz28 12-03-2021 09:25 AM

Looking at AMC chart,,,,risky trade,,,,might look to buy at $27 or just under and ride it up to low $30's if I were a trader

Hammock Parties 12-03-2021 09:27 AM

commatard on the loose!

definitely dumping AMC if commatard is buying.

lewdog 12-03-2021 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15987865)
Better to buy too soon than too late.

I won't lose money on this you son of a bitch.

ROFL

That makes no sense. Buy stocks in uptrends for trades, don’t guess on a stock trending down for when it will reverse as that’s much more difficult to time.

mr. tegu 12-03-2021 09:31 AM

Why are people so focused on amc?

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-03-2021 09:35 AM

I'm getting so ****ing excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've got to go clean black mold from a rental now. BTW I bought MOAR!!!!!!!!!

DaFace 12-03-2021 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15987897)
Why are people so focused on amc?

It's a "get rich quick" play under the belief that eventually it will cause a short squeeze and go through the roof (though we've been waiting for that for like 6 months now).

Beyond that, some are just trying to make a little money on the volatility. It's basically cycled back and forth between ~$30 and ~$50 for months now, so if you figure that can continue, you can buy on the low end and sell on the high end. Of course, it's probably truly only worth about ~$2, so you run the risk of it crashing down to earth at some point.

mr. tegu 12-03-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15987906)
It's a "get rich quick" play under the belief that eventually it will cause a short squeeze and go through the roof (though we've been waiting for that for like 6 months now).

Beyond that, some are just trying to make a little money on the volatility. It's basically cycled back and forth between ~$30 and ~$50 for months now, so if you figure that can continue, you can buy on the low end and sell on the high end. Of course, it's probably truly only worth about ~$2, so you run the risk of it crashing down to earth at some point.


I get the volatility aspect but there are plenty of big movers to consider that aren’t talked about as much. Seems like maybe it consists of people upset they missed the huge growth.

Hammock Parties 12-03-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987894)
ROFL

That makes no sense. Buy stocks in uptrends for trades, don’t guess on a stock trending down for when it will reverse as that’s much more difficult to time.

It is very hard to guess when a stock is going to KEEP rising.

You buy it when it's going up it might get dumped shortly thereafter. Good way to become a goddamn bag holder.

I'd rather play it conservatively. I'll buy at 52-week or 6-month lows and bet on it going up in the short term. That has worked well for me.

petegz28 12-03-2021 09:40 AM

I am not liking this market at all. Heavy selling into every up move. Market internals look like shit, overblown fear about Omicron......

If you are a long term investor I would be ready to start dipping in but I would go slow....

petegz28 12-03-2021 09:53 AM

we push much lower and we are going to have an outside day which can be good but yet still not good..

What is an outside day, you ask??

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o...dereversal.asp

lewdog 12-03-2021 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15987913)
It is very hard to guess when a stock is going to KEEP rising.

You buy it when it's going up it might get dumped shortly thereafter. Good way to become a goddamn bag holder.

I'd rather play it conservatively. I'll buy at 52-week or 6-month lows and bet on it going up in the short term. That has worked well for me.

That’s not playing conservatively, that’s more risky than my trading.

It’s what most people think and it’s why 90% of traders lose. A “cheap” stock is many times cheap for a reason and it’s harder for individual stocks to reverse a trend than continue a current one. That’s why you buy stocks while they trend higher and set stop losses on moves up to decrease downside risk and lock in made gains.

It’s ok if you don’t want to learn though. I’ve provided plenty of education in here and some people just prefer guessing without a plan, which is how you become a bag holder.

lewdog 12-03-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15987915)
I am not liking this market at all. Heavy selling into every up move. Market internals look like shit, overblown fear about Omicron......

If you are a long term investor I would be ready to start dipping in but I would go slow....

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15987928)
we push much lower and we are going to have an outside day which can be good but yet still not good..

What is an outside day, you ask??

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o...dereversal.asp

Pete, you are very on point in this thread.

Makes me wonder if your posts in other threads are jokes. :D

Hammock Parties 12-03-2021 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987931)
That’s not playing conservatively, that’s more risky than my trading.

It’s what most people think and it’s why 90% of traders lose. A “cheap” stock is many times cheap for a reason and it’s harder for individual stocks to reverse a trend than continue a current one. That’s why you buy stocks while they trend higher and set stop losses on moves up to decrease downside risk and lock in made gains.

It’s ok if you don’t want to learn though. I’ve provided plenty of education in here and some people just prefer guessing without a plan, which is how you become a bag holder.

As always you know everything. :rolleyes:

petegz28 12-03-2021 10:07 AM

I should say if we get another outside day and we are about too...this will make the 2nd in 3 days and the 3rd since the sell off started which actually started with an outside day

lewdog 12-03-2021 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15987940)
As always you know everything. :rolleyes:

Nope, just trying to educate you. Trading isn’t about knowing everything. It’s about having a system where you only need to be correct 50% of the time to make money. And it surly isn’t guessing or buying stocks in a down trend.

I’m sorry you won’t listen to any advice that’s trying to help you.

petegz28 12-03-2021 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987951)
Nope, just trying to educate you. Trading isn’t about knowing everything. It’s about having a system where you only need to be correct 50% of the time to make money. And it surly isn’t guessing or buying stocks in a down trend.

I’m sorry you won’t listen to any advice that’s trying to help you.

The "good traders" will tell you that you only need to be right 33% of the time. I call bullshit unless you are seriously funded to be able to scale in and out of several positions.

Day trading or swing trading stocks is tough because you have several factors to consider:

Screen the stocks
How is the overall market in relation to the stock
How is the overall sector in relation to the overall market
How is the overall sector in relation to the stock
Analyst "Recommendations" that move a stock quickly one way or the other

That's why I don't do it anymore. Finding the stocks is a pain and time consuming. If I do dabble in it I try to do it with a buy-write call spread or something.

I'd rather focus on the overall market, e.g. SPY, QQQ, etc.

petegz28 12-03-2021 10:29 AM

If you want to gamble today, right now is a good time to buy the SPY if you think we will head back up towards the close. Seeing a good buying spot.

My concern though is people selling into the close not wanting to be long over the Omicron weekend....

Hammock Parties 12-03-2021 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987951)
It’s about having a system where you only need to be correct 50% of the time to make money. And it surly isn’t guessing or buying stocks in a down trend.

In your opinion, Mr. Know It All LMAO

My system works just fine for me.

lewdog 12-03-2021 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15987983)
The "good traders" will tell you that you only need to be right 33% of the time. I call bullshit unless you are seriously funded to be able to scale in and out of several positions.

Day trading or swing trading stocks is tough because you have several factors to consider:

Screen the stocks
How is the overall market in relation to the stock
How is the overall sector in relation to the overall market
How is the overall sector in relation to the stock
Analyst "Recommendations" that move a stock quickly one way or the other

That's why I don't do it anymore. Finding the stocks is a pain and time consuming. If I do dabble in it I try to do it with a buy-write call spread or something.

I'd rather focus on the overall market, e.g. SPY, QQQ, etc.

I’ve made money in months where I’m 40% accurate, but not lower than that. Goal is to always have win/loss ratio be of 2:1 or greater. It’s all about managing risk.

I trade on Mark Minervini principles. I pay for a screener that I can manipulate to look for stocks that meet certain rules. I can scan through a list of 700 stocks in about 30 minutes looking for certain patterns.

Best book I’ve ever read.

Think & Trade Like a Champion: The Secrets, Rules & Blunt Truths of a Stock Market Wizard https://www.amazon.com/dp/0996307931...J5N4CX5K0MQ44A

lewdog 12-03-2021 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15987987)
If you want to gamble today, right now is a good time to buy the SPY if you think we will head back up towards the close. Seeing a good buying spot.

My concern though is people selling into the close not wanting to be long over the Omicron weekend....

No way I’m holding over the weekend given current conditions.

petegz28 12-03-2021 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987992)
I’ve made money in months where I’m 40% accurate, but not lower than that. Goal is to always have win/loss ratio be of 2:1 or greater. It’s all about managing risk.

I trade on Mark Minervini principles. I pay for a screener that I can manipulate to look for stocks that meet certain rules. I can scan through a list of 700 stocks in about 30 minutes looking for certain patterns.

Best book I’ve ever read.

Think & Trade Like a Champion: The Secrets, Rules & Blunt Truths of a Stock Market Wizard https://www.amazon.com/dp/0996307931...J5N4CX5K0MQ44A

I might have to check it out

petegz28 12-03-2021 10:52 AM

Since we are on the topic of books, if you have not ever looked into technical analysis and want to learn how to "read the charts" this is the Bible. I had the fist edition called Technical Analysis of the Futures Markets back in the early 90's but the concepts were for stocks as well. Murphy has since been noted as one of the best in the technical analysis arena.

I would read this well before you start reading any other books on trading that involve charts.

https://www.amazon.com/Technical-Ana...s%2C185&sr=8-3

lewdog 12-03-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15988028)
Since we are on the topic of books, if you have not ever looked into technical analysis and want to learn how to "read the charts" this is the Bible. I had the fist edition called Technical Analysis of the Futures Markets back in the early 90's but the concepts were for stocks as well. Murphy has since been noted as one of the best in the technical analysis arena.

I would read this well before you start reading any other books on trading that involve charts.

https://www.amazon.com/Technical-Ana...s%2C185&sr=8-3

I own that one too.

Great read and very dense. Definitely provides the introduction needed for technical analysis before you learn your own trading style.

mr. tegu 12-03-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15987992)
I’ve made money in months where I’m 40% accurate, but not lower than that. Goal is to always have win/loss ratio be of 2:1 or greater. It’s all about managing risk.

I trade on Mark Minervini principles. I pay for a screener that I can manipulate to look for stocks that meet certain rules. I can scan through a list of 700 stocks in about 30 minutes looking for certain patterns.

Best book I’ve ever read.

Think & Trade Like a Champion: The Secrets, Rules & Blunt Truths of a Stock Market Wizard https://www.amazon.com/dp/0996307931...J5N4CX5K0MQ44A


Which screener?

petegz28 12-03-2021 10:59 AM

Nasdaq is getting completely wrecked today....

lewdog 12-03-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15988049)
Which screener?

TC2000

petegz28 12-03-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15987987)
If you want to gamble today, right now is a good time to buy the SPY if you think we will head back up towards the close. Seeing a good buying spot.

My concern though is people selling into the close not wanting to be long over the Omicron weekend....

Trade looks like it might have busted....selling is ferocious today


Still looking promising....if you placed your stop loss correctly you're still in the trade....

Rain Man 12-03-2021 11:31 AM

It's interesting that there's such a big difference between the Dow, the S&P, and Nasdaq today. It seems that money is fleeing tech hard, and other stuff less so.

petegz28 12-03-2021 11:37 AM

Both the SPY and the QQQ are at the 50 day SMA. QQQ has bounced off of it very slightly. SPY is just below it trying to get back above.

lewdog 12-03-2021 12:10 PM

I’ll take another small play today. BTBT at 8.30, SL right below low of day at 8.14.

Looking for possible rebound into close with high up side, limited risk with SL.

lewdog 12-03-2021 01:47 PM

AMC dipping into the 25’s!

Hammock Parties 12-03-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15988387)
AMC dipping into the 25’s!

Buying opportunity.

petegz28 12-03-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15988067)
Trade looks like it might have busted....selling is ferocious today


Still looking promising....if you placed your stop loss correctly you're still in the trade....

Busted....figured that would not be good but if you were a gambler it had a chance....


selling is picking up

petegz28 12-03-2021 02:02 PM

If I didn't think a touch of short covering would come in during the last 20-30 min I would say we are headed for over 10+ points down on the SPY but I think enough will cover their shorts going into the weekend to keep it from happening

lewdog 12-03-2021 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15988404)
Buying opportunity.

ROFL

Keep gambling, unrestricted!

Hammock Parties 12-03-2021 02:16 PM

AMC testing 27. Looks to hit 30 by close. Big money coming in!

Hammock Parties 12-03-2021 03:02 PM

Solid close for AMC.

Should be back in that $3.50 profit range after hours.

LONG AND STRONG! TO THE MOON!

petegz28 12-03-2021 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15988512)
Solid close for AMC.

Should be back in that $3.50 profit range after hours.

LONG AND STRONG! TO THE MOON!

Almost everything had a solid close. Short covering came in during the last 30 min. Markets came up 1% or so off the lows.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-03-2021 05:03 PM

12/9 is the date !

Rain Man 12-03-2021 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15988739)
12/9 is the date !

What year?

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-03-2021 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15988749)
What year?

2021

DaFace 12-03-2021 05:40 PM

Is this like a Donnie Darko thing?

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Hog's Gone Fishin 12-03-2021 06:22 PM

My team has a theory.

It has to do with

1) Nikola Tesla
2) The theory of threes 12/9/21
3) The descending wedge
4) a triple bottom being established

lewdog 12-03-2021 06:55 PM

TSLA triple bottom?

lewdog 12-03-2021 08:02 PM

Just wanted to share this. This is the weekly chart on DOCU going back 4 years to 2018. Just wow.

https://i.imgur.com/rZs5rQX.png

-King- 12-03-2021 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15989004)
Just wanted to share this. This is the weekly chart on DOCU going back 4 years to 2018. Just wow.

https://i.imgur.com/rZs5rQX.png

Thats one helluva week. I'm lazy...what happened to make them drop like that?

lewdog 12-03-2021 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15989043)
Thats one helluva week. I'm lazy...what happened to make them drop like that?

Easy answer, slightly poor earnings report.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/docu-...183938500.html

scho63 12-04-2021 09:35 AM

If you bought $1000 worth of PUTS on DOCU the day before earnings, you could have made $600,000

Buehler445 12-04-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15989334)
If you bought $1000 worth of PUTS on DOCU the day before earnings, you could have made $600,000

And probably not the worst strategy in a down trending market. Puts ahead of earnings report.

The 600K would likely get washed out to a degree on the companies that didn’t go down but that’s a pretty good strategy.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-04-2021 04:59 PM

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lewdog 12-06-2021 07:06 AM

Could be another interesting day!

lewdog 12-07-2021 12:07 PM

Pete, if you aren’t swing trading individual stocks, what index tickers do you trade?

petegz28 12-07-2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15997226)
Pete, if you aren’t swing trading individual stocks, what index tickers do you trade?

SPY, QQQ....I don't even really "trade" anymore. More like try to time when I put cash to work. Rarely take profits right now as I am longer term in all of this.

petegz28 12-07-2021 01:05 PM

Today is a huge jump up..big gap....looks good on the ticker but the volatility is still high.

It could be a rare reaction that is the result of an overreaction to Omicron.

But bull markets don't happen when volatility is high. That being said, we got good bounces off the 50 days. Just need the volatility to come in now.

lewdog 12-07-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15997290)
Today is a huge jump up..big gap....looks good on the ticker but the volatility is still high.

It could be a rare reaction that is the result of an overreaction to Omicron.

But bull markets don't happen when volatility is high. That being said, we got good bounces off the 50 days. Just need the volatility to come in now.

And it was less volume today right? So less follow through buying compared to yesterday which isn’t always a good sign and could mean volatility is still very much a factor.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-07-2021 03:26 PM

Couple of my penny stocks had a really good day

CYBL up 43%
FERN up 33%

Disappointed in ILUS today. -1.16% It should have followed the other two.

Rain Man 12-07-2021 04:13 PM

Good day. Good, good day. I'm still about 3 percent off of my November 16 peak, but this makes up some notable ground.

It was a good day to own Trup and Nvax stock. I only have a tiny amount, but it's a much larger tiny amount after today.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-07-2021 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15997468)
Good day. Good, good day. I'm still about 3 percent off of my November 16 peak, but this makes up some notable ground.

It was a good day to own Trup and Nvax stock. I only have a tiny amount, but it's a much larger tiny amount after today.

Oh my , those two stocks kicked ass! :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

Hammock Parties 12-08-2021 10:23 AM

almost time to take profits on AMC, LEWDOG YOU BITCH

lewdog 12-08-2021 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15998148)
almost time to take profits on AMC, LEWDOG YOU BITCH

Was this the to the moon move?

Hammock Parties 12-08-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15998307)
Was this the to the moon move?

I'm not MTG, don't put that evil on me ricky bobby!

Just want to be a filthy short and pump the dump!

petegz28 12-08-2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15997413)
And it was less volume today right? So less follow through buying compared to yesterday which isn’t always a good sign and could mean volatility is still very much a factor.

I have started piecing in this morning noting the lack of volatility and that it looks like it may have peaked. May have missed the bottom and may still get a bottom but I am in the ball park. And since I never sold anything I am no worse for wear.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-08-2021 01:58 PM

I'm really happy I went in heavy on AAPL. After I dump AmC I'm moving that money there.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-09-2021 02:00 PM

Pulled from stocktwits:

#Citadel has been shorting companies like AMC/GME and others. Hedge funds like Citadel suffered massive losses in the hundreds of millions . The company is said to even have taken action against it asking the broker to suspend trading. During a testimony Citadel CEO Griffin admitted the short positions were now closed. A search of Bloomberg however revealed that Citadel not only have failed to cover the short positions from January, but those have actually grown exponentially.

Citadel can use Chinese commercial paper and bonds as collateral. Once Evergrande is declared bankrupt and has a D status, the hedge funds can no longer use the Chinese paper and bonds as collateral. As a result, they are unable to meet multi-billion dollar margin requirements and must sell shares to cover margins or close short positions. In doing so, hedge funds must buy AMC/GME at any price. Even if the market collapses, AMC and GME shares will soar. Apes ... you are going to be filthy rich.

Hammock Parties 12-09-2021 02:02 PM

LET'S GOOOOO

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-09-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15999745)
LET'S GOOOOO

I think I'll buy 10 mores share later in after hours just to scratch my itch.

DaFace 12-09-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15999740)
Pulled from stocktwits:

#Citadel has been shorting companies like AMC/GME and others. Hedge funds like Citadel suffered massive losses in the hundreds of millions . The company is said to even have taken action against it asking the broker to suspend trading. During a testimony Citadel CEO Griffin admitted the short positions were now closed. A search of Bloomberg however revealed that Citadel not only have failed to cover the short positions from January, but those have actually grown exponentially.

Citadel can use Chinese commercial paper and bonds as collateral. Once Evergrande is declared bankrupt and has a D status, the hedge funds can no longer use the Chinese paper and bonds as collateral. As a result, they are unable to meet multi-billion dollar margin requirements and must sell shares to cover margins or close short positions. In doing so, hedge funds must buy AMC/GME at any price. Even if the market collapses, AMC and GME shares will soar. Apes ... you are going to be filthy rich.

I wonder if the people saying this have a financial incentive to keep the hype high. :hmmm:

lewdog 12-09-2021 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15999740)
Pulled from stocktwits:

#Citadel has been shorting companies like AMC/GME and others. Hedge funds like Citadel suffered massive losses in the hundreds of millions . The company is said to even have taken action against it asking the broker to suspend trading. During a testimony Citadel CEO Griffin admitted the short positions were now closed. A search of Bloomberg however revealed that Citadel not only have failed to cover the short positions from January, but those have actually grown exponentially.

Citadel can use Chinese commercial paper and bonds as collateral. Once Evergrande is declared bankrupt and has a D status, the hedge funds can no longer use the Chinese paper and bonds as collateral. As a result, they are unable to meet multi-billion dollar margin requirements and must sell shares to cover margins or close short positions. In doing so, hedge funds must buy AMC/GME at any price. Even if the market collapses, AMC and GME shares will soar. Apes ... you are going to be filthy rich.

Yawn.

Similar things being said since summer.

Buehler445 12-09-2021 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15999740)
Pulled from stocktwits:

#Citadel has been shorting companies like AMC/GME and others. Hedge funds like Citadel suffered massive losses in the hundreds of millions . The company is said to even have taken action against it asking the broker to suspend trading. During a testimony Citadel CEO Griffin admitted the short positions were now closed. A search of Bloomberg however revealed that Citadel not only have failed to cover the short positions from January, but those have actually grown exponentially.

Citadel can use Chinese commercial paper and bonds as collateral. Once Evergrande is declared bankrupt and has a D status, the hedge funds can no longer use the Chinese paper and bonds as collateral. As a result, they are unable to meet multi-billion dollar margin requirements and must sell shares to cover margins or close short positions. In doing so, hedge funds must buy AMC/GME at any price. Even if the market collapses, AMC and GME shares will soar. Apes ... you are going to be filthy rich.

Right, so maybe I'm misreading this, but if the short positions are closed, aren't the margin requirements now gone?

At least with my hedging account, margin requirements have to be covered before the close of day. CBOT seats have been lost because of failure to cover.

I have a hard time believing NYSE will allow multi-month failure to maintain margin requirements.

banyon 12-09-2021 03:59 PM

This market has topped. I'm going to be selling the rips for a while.

stumppy 12-09-2021 04:21 PM

OUCH!

Out of the 84 stocks I've been following, 77 ended the day in the red.


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