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tredadda 12-05-2022 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Just:13 (Post 16648271)
As I mentioned weeks ago, the Dolphins are frauds. They’re the 2020 Steelers. Stacking wins against bad teams.

They lost to a 3rd string QB yesterday. By multiple scores. They have the Chargers and Bills next.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they fall to the 7th spot in the AFC playoff picture.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">24% of Tua’s TD’s for the entire season came in 1 HALF of football in Sept. Outside of that one game, Tua has thrown a total of 3 TD’s and 3 INT’s against winning teams this season. Tua’s stats come from 11 TD’s and 0 INT against teams with a 19-41 combined record. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FinsUp?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FinsUp</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a></p>&mdash; Bills Stats &amp; More (@Tickets_Buffalo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tickets_Buffalo/status/1599843073982619649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
They already beat Buffalo once though.

JustDíqLix 12-05-2022 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16648276)
They already beat Buffalo once though.
They beat a Bills team that was missing 9 starters, by 2 points.

Context.

tredadda 12-05-2022 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Just:13 (Post 16648285)
They beat a Bills team that was missing 9 starters, by 2 points.

Context.
So Buffalo should be 9-3 with an *? A loss is a loss regardless.

JustDíqLix 12-05-2022 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16648291)
So Buffalo should be 9-3 with an *? A loss is a loss regardless.
The record is what it is.

But if you want to pretend that context doesn’t matter when discussing and analyzing football, might as well just shut the forum down. All we need is records and a schedule to show who beat who. Right?

tredadda 12-05-2022 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Just:13 (Post 16648300)
The record is what it is.

But if you want to pretend that context doesn’t matter when discussing and analyzing football, might as well just shut the forum down. All we need is records and a schedule to show who beat who. Right?
It doesn’t matter. Like chess no two games are the same.

RaidersOftheCellar 12-05-2022 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16645739)
1 seed they can probably beat the Bengals
If they can lose to the Jets, I'm guessing they could lose to the Bengals too.

DRM08 12-05-2022 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Just:13 (Post 16648271)
As I mentioned weeks ago, the Dolphins are frauds. They’re the 2020 Steelers. Stacking wins against bad teams.

They lost to a 3rd string QB yesterday. By multiple scores. They have the Chargers and Bills next.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they fall to the 7th spot in the AFC playoff picture.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">24% of Tua’s TD’s for the entire season came in 1 HALF of football in Sept. Outside of that one game, Tua has thrown a total of 3 TD’s and 3 INT’s against winning teams this season. Tua’s stats come from 11 TD’s and 0 INT against teams with a 19-41 combined record. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FinsUp?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FinsUp</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a></p>&mdash; Bills Stats &amp; More (@Tickets_Buffalo) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tickets_Buffalo/status/1599843073982619649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Obviously the Dolphins benefited from playing 5 bad teams in a row, no question about that.

Not sure Miami is quite as fraudulent as a Steelers team that had an aging, injured Big Ben mixed with a defensive head coach who has been stuck in the Dark Ages of football schemes, etc.

Miami has Tua in his prime, Tyreek in his prime, Waddle in his prime...pretty good young offensive coach running the show there as well. They are dangerous enough with their passing game to beat other teams in a shootout.

Hammock Parties 12-05-2022 02:25 PM
damn von is ****ed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjOV2vJX...g&name=900x900

JustDíqLix 12-05-2022 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16648303)
It doesn’t matter. Like chess no two games are the same.
huh? No one said they are…

JustDíqLix 12-05-2022 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16648320)
Obviously the Dolphins benefited from playing 5 bad teams in a row, no question about that.

Not sure Miami is quite as fraudulent as a Steelers team that had an aging, injured Big Ben mixed with a defensive head coach who has been stuck in the Dark Ages of football schemes, etc.

Miami has Tua in his prime, Tyreek in his prime, Waddle in his prime...pretty good young offensive coach running the show there as well. They are dangerous enough with their passing game to beat other teams in a shootout.
You’re a great poster but I had to laugh at “Tua in his prime”. The guy is Chad Pennington.

JustDíqLix 12-05-2022 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16648316)
If they can lose to the Jets, I'm guessing they could lose to the Bengals too.
This is true. Any team can lose to any team. But the Bills match up with the Bengals fairly well, so hopefully they can get the W.

DRM08 12-05-2022 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Just:13 (Post 16648456)
You’re a great poster but I had to laugh at “Tua in his prime”. The guy is Chad Pennington.
Dang that sounds harsh. LMAO

In any event, as long as they have those 2 elite speed WR's for him mixed with a good offensive minded coach, that Miami offense is probably going to be dangerous enough for some shootout games with everyone around the league.

MahomesMagic 12-05-2022 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Just:13 (Post 16648456)
You’re a great poster but I had to laugh at “Tua in his prime”. The guy is Chad Pennington.
Nope.

Tua is Matt Ryan.

Which is what my comp was for him coming out, a guy that will never really be a top 5 QB but could win a MVP with the right coach and great supporting cast.

JustDíqLix 12-05-2022 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16648485)
Nope.

Tua is Matt Ryan.

Which is what my comp was for him coming out, a guy that will never really be a top 5 QB but could win a MVP with the right coach and great supporting cast.
I can see why you would say Matt Ryan, but Ryan’s arm is (was?) stronger than Tua’s. And that’s saying something considering Ryan hasn’t ever had the strongest arm (it’s a good thing he played in a dome).

Watch Tua as he goes through December and January. The cold and windy games mess with him because he doesn’t have the strength to rip it. He relies on perfectly placed moon balls and mid corner drops and those are impossible in cold/wind without an elite arm.

Career Splits
September - November: 35 TD, 9 INT
December - January: 13 TD, 11 INT

RaidersOftheCellar 12-05-2022 03:18 PM
I didn't have much respect for Tua coming into this season, and I still don't think he's elite, but he's accurate and he has wide open receivers all over the field. He doesn't need to be the best QB in the league to put up a lot of points.


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