ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Brett Veach hopes Chris Jones can play next week; increased talks last 2 days

There's a price and a situation for everything.

Plan A was not to trade away Hill.

Plan A was not to trade away Jones.

But things change and you don't stay wedded to Plan A at any cost. THAT mindset is what would be stupid.

Hammock Parties

09-11-2023 08:11 AM

I AM SO TIRED OF CHRIS JONES NOT PLAYING ON THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

I WANT HIM TO PLAY ON THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS SO THAT WE CAN WIN A SUPER BOWL AGAIN

PLEASE REPORT TODAY CHRIS JONES TO THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

WE NEED YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

arrwheader

09-11-2023 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17101213)

**** Chris Jones he's holding his teamates hostage over a few million after being offered a fair deal he just wants it NOW waaaaaaaa.

He can redeem himself but telling his scumbag agents to go fist fk themselves and sign the deal only then can he be redeemed.

FloridaMan88

09-11-2023 08:23 AM

Barring a change of heart, seems like he's really going to hold out until week 8.

And when he finally shows up, how long will it take for him to play anywhere close to his potential? A few weeks? Will he mentally be checked out when he shows up? Will he disrupt team chemistry?

Find a trade that helps the Chiefs this year (i.e. gets the Chiefs a starting WR), and the future (a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick) and move on.

mr. tegu

09-11-2023 08:24 AM

We are going to be thankful he didn’t sign the offer just like with OBJ. Only thing that would have been better would have been to resolve it before the draft.

O.city

09-11-2023 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17101234)

Barring a change of heart, seems like he's really going to hold out until week 8.

And when he finally shows up, how long will it take to play anywhere close to his potential? A few weeks? Will he mentally be checked out when he shows up? Will he disrupt team chemistry?

Find a trade that helps the Chiefs this year (i.e. gets the Chiefs a starting WR), and the future (a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick) and move on.

Yeah, I was against this all summer but now?

Do it and be done. I doubt there's a trade out there to be had to be honest, but dude wants to max out his money. That's fine. But it won't happen here so lets pull the bandaid and be done with this.

HC_Chief

09-11-2023 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17101234)

Barring a change of heart, seems like he's really going to hold out until week 8.

And when he finally shows up, how long will him take to play anywhere close to his potential? A few weeks? Will he mentally be checked out when he shows up? Will he disrupt team chemistry?

Find a trade that helps the Chiefs this year (i.e. gets the Chiefs a starting WR), and the future (a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick) and move on.

No one is going to trade for him this year. CJ and his shithead agents would bring the same ridiculous contract demands with them.

Better to wait until week eight, then hold his ass out for two games, per the Chiefs' right, while he "gets into playing shape". Then franchise tag his ass next season at a 120% of $10M '23 number and ship his dumb ass off to Carolina (or equivalent NFC bottom feeder).

CJ and the Kuntz brothers ****ed around and found out.

warpaint*

09-11-2023 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17101234)

Sure if such a trade exists. Most likely going to be next spring.

JPH83

09-11-2023 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17101202)

They won a SB with Tyreek and went to another one, then went to AFC champ games.

I don't think it's cut and dry to say either way on that, but the guy is absolutely an elite talent and may go down as an all time WR. I don't think I'd get in the habit of trading those guys away. Hindsight and all, yeah, I'd have dealt Jones and kept Hill...but that's in the past at this point.

My issue with trading away blue chip players is that yes, you can get a good haul of picks and money and such. But you also have to find new blue chip players. That's not easy to do.

It's alot easier to fill around them with good solid players though.

At some price point you just have to say "we can't do this with a QB getting this much and a functioning team around them". But yeah I don't disagree it's not ideal.Either way you really have to hit on your early draft picks.

TEX	09-11-2023 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 17101242)

EXACTLY! Veach should give them a deadline the next week or so. If it passes, he needs to pull the offer and go with the above scenario.

O.city

09-11-2023 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17101257)

Yeah, you can't pay everyone.

But it's a hell of alot easier to replace the good solid player like Willie Gay or Justin Reid than it is a Tyreek Hill or Chris Jones.

TwistedChief

09-11-2023 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 17101242)

Just a small correction:

His restructuring bonus was 7mm this year. So I believe it'd be more like 120% of 17mm-ish (there are also some small sack incentives and it's not entirely clear how that affects it).

That being said, any team that trades for him is going to be giving him a new deal, so his tag value is really only meaningful to the Chiefs in that we have ~12-13mm more flexibility during that FA period if a trade is hard to come by.

arrwheader

09-11-2023 08:48 AM

It's clear the Chiefs aren't going to blink so I wouldn't be surprised they are fielding calls. They won't be in a huge hurry but I bet Veach is doing his homework there. I thnk he has played his last down with the Chiefs. He has already waded into burn bridges territory.

Rain Man

09-11-2023 08:49 AM

That blue hat was a Seahawks hat. That's really not cool. He really needs to get better agents.

I'm a fan of Chris and think he's a great player. I've felt a little sorry for him since he finds himself in the position of being the third best player on the team. A lot of teams would pay him because he's their best player. But when you're the third best player and the other two guys take below market deals because they like showing up to work in the morning, it starts making you look bad.

farmerchief

09-11-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 17101218)

I imagine his teamates support him trying to get more salary. But, I think after a few weeks of missing actual games, some may be getting a little irritated with his actions, Who knows?

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