Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11880453)

Nah - Mizzou should've never been that bad to begin with.

A credible coach has Mizzou in contention for Bowl games most years. Stull and Widenhoffer were simply so catastrophically awful that they led fans to believe that the default position of the program was 'shit'.

If you bring a truly horrific coach in here, the program will suck. But MU has a large enough footprint, fertile enough recruiting grounds and enough resources to be no worse than a solid college football program year in, year out (with the occasional stinker here and there).

I'm not worried about the long-term. I'm mostly concerned about getting through the present shitstorm and then I'll decide if I give a good god damn about anything this University does (apart from paying my wife...I'd like them to keep doing that).

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 11881288)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Memphis’ Justin Fuente, Houston’s Tom Herman &amp; Temple’s Matt Rhule top candidates for Mizzou, sources told <a href="https://twitter.com/espn">@ESPN</a></p>&mdash; Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/665301227304013824">November 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 11881578)

Would be big if they landed one of them, but I'm concerned that they won't pony up the money to land a high tier candidate.

They did go cheap recently and now we have Kermit destroying the BB team.

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 11878612)

The thing is though that words DO hurt, and it's arguably worse to collectively pretend that they don't.

And the thing about safe spaces that people ought to realize is that no one lives in a safe space. It's basically about having a therapeutic place -- a regular meeting, say -- where you can share your feelings with people who have similar experiences as you. Outside of a "safe space," people get mocked or belittled for sharing those feelings. People get confronted with "you're lying" or "that didn't happen" or "I don't believe you" or etc etc. by people who lack empathy or sympathy for those experiences. And to some degree that's fine. These students are in college after all, and they should expect their academic or political ideas to be questioned. But for certain disadvantaged groups (often we're talking about ethnic groups or LGBTQIA+ groups) they get A LOT more scrutiny than others, to the point of bullying and erasure. The idea of a safe space is to have a place where they can share without the constant challenging they get outside of the safe space. BY NO MEANS is an entire campus supposed to be a safe space; that's a misunderstanding of the concept.

"Microaggressions" shouldn't be a controversial term either. There's certain ways people get treated that aren't super confrontational but still serve to put down others, to treat them as lesser-than. Misgendering a person you know to be trans, for example. Or people walking across the street, clutching their purse, when a black person gets near. Or campus security letting white students walk into a building without checking ID but suddenly needing the young latina to produce a campus ID. These things aren't often blatantly hateful, but they wear on the people who experience them. I'd be surprised if anyone here doubts that these little prejudices happen in day to day life. Microaggressions is simply the word that's been decided upon to categorize these behaviors.

People are free to think that students these days are mentally weaker than in past generations because of their desire for these kinds of spaces and terms. I do think there's something to your guys' refrain that seeing oneself in constant victimhood can hold one back from the opportunities that ARE present. But I also think the same people suggesting that aren't being empathetic enough to the minority experience. It's simply emotionally harder to endure small daily prejudices than a lot of white Americans give it credit for. Ask your wives sometime about catcalling, and how much that wears down on them as women -- that's a thing that men can't fully understand too, because it simply doesn't happen to them. Similar thing.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11881731)

Holy Mother of God.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/13/li...-not-missouri/

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11881212)

Tom Herman of Houston is my no 1 target. New coach will have HC experience, and Herman is a little light there, but he's a future star, imo.

Justin Fuente is also a strong candidate.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11881731)

Holy Mother of God.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/13/li...-not-missouri/

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11881276)

Urban Meyer hand-picked Herman because he thought he was a brilliant offensive mind. Pretty high praise.



He's only got one year as a head coach, but he has recruiting ties in Texas, Florida and Ohio, and was a key recruiter for OSU in St. Louis as well.



It would be a home run hire. I think he's a star, and I think Mizzou would only be able to hang on to him until Urban Meyer retires... but I would like his chances to leave a better program than he found.



He's also good enough to hang on to the talent in the 15 and 14 classes and build quickly around that, if given a chance.