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Mr. Plow 01-07-2016 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 12004897)
Did Sacc lose a bet to Prison Bitch and has now gone full troll? Because he's making PB look like a decent poster

He's in full on troll mode. Not just in this thread. Throughout CP. And he's not good at it.

Bearcat 01-07-2016 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12004903)
He's in full on troll mode. Not just in this thread. Throughout CP. And he's not good at it.

I see MU in the near future... well, not meaning he'll be forced to watch a MU BB game.. we aren't that mean to trolls around here.

Lzen 01-07-2016 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 12004964)
I see MU in the near future... well, not meaning he'll be forced to watch a MU BB game.. we aren't that mean to trolls around here.

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KC_Connection 01-07-2016 02:04 PM

Stats of Hield's performance and gifs of Mason's effective ball denial from the game:

http://www.si.com/college-basketball...north-carolina

Buehler445 01-07-2016 03:23 PM

Mason Sucks/Sacc

Prison Bitch 01-07-2016 03:28 PM

Mason needs to stop playing hero at the end of shot clocks and halves. He's a tiny runt that can't ever create his own shot or get to the rim, things you must be able to do in those situations. (Taylor, Chalmers, Sherron until his SR year, EJ, Langford etc all could). He can penetrate in regular sets when he sees an opening or a double team, but not when he's being watched

BWillie 01-07-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12005518)
Mason needs to stop playing hero at the end of shot clocks and halves. He's a tiny runt that can't ever create his own shot or get to the rim, things you must be able to do in those situations. (Taylor, Chalmers, Sherron until his SR year, EJ, Langford etc all could). He can penetrate in regular sets when he sees an opening or a double team, but not when he's being watched

For his size, he's a damn good finisher. Plus he draws fouls. I'll give you that he wasn't very efficient in the OU game, but alot of that is a product of neither team really substituting down the break leading to ineffective possessions because both team was fatigued.

KC_Connection 01-07-2016 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12005518)
Mason needs to stop playing hero at the end of shot clocks and halves. He's a tiny runt that can't ever create his own shot or get to the rim, things you must be able to do in those situations. (Taylor, Chalmers, Sherron until his SR year, EJ, Langford etc all could). He can penetrate in regular sets when he sees an opening or a double team, but not when he's being watched

Self is the one calling for him to have the ball in those end of clock scenarios instead of calling actual plays to get shots for others like Selden or Ellis. If you want to blame somebody, blame him. Not a player that clearly gets the most out of his size and ability and is only doing what is asked of him.

Prison Bitch 01-07-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12005814)
Self is the one calling for him to have the ball in those end of clock scenarios instead of calling actual plays to get shots for others like Selden or Ellis. If you want to blame somebody, blame him. Not a player that clearly gets the most out of his size and ability and is only doing what is asked of him.

I can agree with that.

KC_Connection 01-07-2016 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 12005638)
For his size, he's a damn good finisher. Plus he draws fouls. I'll give you that he wasn't very efficient in the OU game, but alot of that is a product of neither team really substituting down the break leading to ineffective possessions because both team was fatigued.

Of course, there's also the fact that Mason is both the best offensive creator on the team (top assist rate by far) and the best at drawing fouls (other than Ellis) who has come through time and again for this team over the past few years, so it is not like Self doesn't have reasons for going with him.

I'd like to see more effective plays run in such scenarios, though. The only time KU got a good shot in an end-game scenario the other day was on an out-of-bounds play (the open Selden three off the screen).

Prison Bitch 01-07-2016 06:44 PM

Exactly right. That was a great play. They need to run a clear out with Perry or an isolation, 2-man game with Selden at the end. Both can hit jumpers, draw fouls, and get to the rim.

KC_Connection 01-07-2016 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12005826)
I can agree with that.

And yes, the problem is that Self treats Mason like he's Sherron or 2012 Tyshawn, who could just bail you out routinely in a late clock scenario. He's good, but not on that level. If forced to drive against a team with a rim protector (like with OU's Lattin), he's just as likely to be blocked as to pick up a foul. Self needs to recognize that and adjust accordingly. He hasn't.

Prison Bitch 01-07-2016 06:51 PM

If I'm an opposing coach, I want a 5-10 guy having to beat my guard off the dribble and then flying towards the rim right at my big guy. Yes, Self needs to stop that play.

KC_Connection 01-07-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12005833)
Exactly right. That was a great play. They need to run a clear out with Perry or an isolation, 2-man game with Selden at the end. Both can hit jumpers, draw fouls, and get to the rim.

I would make far more use of Selden than they are. His efficiency would drop because of it, but he's shown by now that his game has taken a serious step up this season.

Clearing out for Perry is an option, but I'd be more partial to running PnR with him than asking him to create his own shot (which he's still not the most adept at, especially against guys bigger than him). In the PnR, though, you'll either get something going to the rim or a wide open jump shot for Perry (and he's a tremendous spot shooter from both mid range and apparently now 3PT range as well). It's what ISU does with Niang often, who has a similar skill set to Perry.

Prison Bitch 01-07-2016 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12005852)
I would make far more use of Selden than they are. His efficiency would drop because of it, but he's shown by now that his game has taken a serious step up this season.

Clearing out for Perry is an option, but I'd be more partial to running PnR with him than asking him to create his own shot (which he's still not the most adept at, especially against guys bigger than him). In the PnR, though, you'll either get something going to the rim or a wide open jump shot for Perry (and he's a tremendous spot shooter from both mid range and apparently now 3PT range as well). It's what ISU does with Niang often, who has a similar skill set to Perry.

Agreed completely. I don't know why Self doesn't see that. Niang handles the ball in those situations and he's so hard to cover.


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