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MahomesMagic 09-13-2021 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15830666)
This just doesn’t fit with the guy we saw in college or even last year when the OL wasn’t complete dogshit.

I have to continue to have faith in EB and Reid and the talent that we got in CEH. This just seems fixable for now.
Correct. CEH's vision coming out was amazing.

You can say he is a touch slow, not super explosive. You can say he struggles in pass pro.

But his vision should be his calling card.

ThaVirus 09-13-2021 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15830381)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watching this live, I was blown away CEH didn&#39;t see the left side. I mean, he literally could have jogged for more than three yards by turning left.<br><br>Hell, he might have gotten three yards jogging to the right side. Instead, he chose the middle <a href="https://t.co/Z7i0CyXtGV">https://t.co/Z7i0CyXtGV</a></p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1437431186154995715?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Why is he even flat-footed there? What is he seeing that's causing him to hesitate?

He's got nothing but daylight to his left. Three defenders in front of him but three hats on them. That's a win all day. 90% of starting backs in this league take that for at least 5-6 yards.

He should be in stride, full steam ahead.

SupDock 09-13-2021 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15830381)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watching this live, I was blown away CEH didn&#39;t see the left side. I mean, he literally could have jogged for more than three yards by turning left.<br><br>Hell, he might have gotten three yards jogging to the right side. Instead, he chose the middle <a href="https://t.co/Z7i0CyXtGV">https://t.co/Z7i0CyXtGV</a></p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1437431186154995715?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
That blocking looks very good

I know that’s the point, but dang.

eDave 09-13-2021 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 15830680)
He's only human; hasn't looked the same to me after the Saints game injury. He was running with abandon until then. Not everyone has the ability to come back from injury like Patrick; he's special mentally and physically.
These are my thoughts. A mental block. That gymnist had a similar mental block. Even Mavorick had it.

His injury still makes me cringe. **** that.

KChiefs1 09-13-2021 01:51 PM
Jerick McKinnon come on down.


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Dunerdr 09-13-2021 01:51 PM
Last year on many occasions he made something out of nothing. I'm confident he can get his mojo back and improve with this line.

DJ's left nut 09-13-2021 01:51 PM
Was it PS week 2 where he got dinged?

I remember mentioning it at the time - the run game looked better after he got hurt. His vision really has been a problem.

He's become something of a guess hitter out there. He acts like he's deciding where a hole is going to open and if it doesn't, he just smashes into where he expected it to be without looking for a plan B. Combine that with a tendency to tip-toe into the line and he's almost completely ineffective.

It's not great. There needs to be improvement there or he needs to start losing snaps.

staylor26 09-13-2021 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 15830680)
He's only human; hasn't looked the same to me after the Saints game injury. He was running with abandon until then. Not everyone has the ability to come back from injury like Patrick; he's special mentally and physically.
He actually looked great in the SB when he got his opportunities.

This really didn’t start till this year.

It was revealed he had gallbladder surgery in the offseason, and he had that ankle injury in the preseason. Other than a new OL with some potential changes to the running scheme, I can’t think of what else it could be.

-King- 09-13-2021 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15830711)
Was it PS week 2 where he got dinged?

I remember mentioning it at the time - the run game looked better after he got hurt. His vision really has been a problem.

He's become something of a guess hitter out there. He acts like he's deciding where a hole is going to open and if it doesn't, he just smashes into where he expected it to be without looking for a plan B. Combine that with a tendency to tip-toe into the line and he's almost completely ineffective.

It's not great. There needs to be improvement there or he needs to start losing snaps.
Even Darwin found and hit the holes...before he did something inexplicable.

dirk digler 09-13-2021 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15830711)
Was it PS week 2 where he got dinged?

I remember mentioning it at the time - the run game looked better after he got hurt. His vision really has been a problem.

He's become something of a guess hitter out there. He acts like he's deciding where a hole is going to open and if it doesn't, he just smashes into where he expected it to be without looking for a plan B. Combine that with a tendency to tip-toe into the line and he's almost completely ineffective.

It's not great. There needs to be improvement there or he needs to start losing snaps.
I believe so. He has been hurt alot but that goes with the position. I was mentioning yesterday we needed to see more of Mckinnon and if his poor play continues bring up Gore.

-King- 09-13-2021 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15830716)
He actually looked great in the SB when he got his opportunities.

This really didn’t start till this year.

It was revealed he had gallbladder surgery in the offseason, and he had that ankle injury in the preseason. Other than a new OL with some potential changes to the running scheme, I can’t think of what else it could be.
It happened last year too. Mentioned it then. But you know...ole contrarian me.

O.city 09-13-2021 01:56 PM
Stop drinking so many stadium margs

staylor26 09-13-2021 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15830726)
It happened last year too. Mentioned it then. But you know...ole contrarian me.
CEH averaged over 4 YPC last year behind the 31st run blocking OL.

He was fine to good last year all things considered, and he really started to hit his stride towards the end, because like I said, 2 of his best games were against the Saints and the SB (his last 2).

He hasn’t been the same this year. There’s a clear difference and of course you’re the only idiot that can’t see it.

DJ's left nut 09-13-2021 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15830727)
Stop drinking so many stadium margs
The wife yacked down the side of the truck on the ride home.

I was so proud of her...

ToxSocks 09-13-2021 01:59 PM
No bullshit, i feel like Darrel Williams can do more with some of these holes.


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