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BigRedChief 10-06-2020 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15221961)
Yep. I think Pat was trying too hard to make a statement on the Patriots defense instead of just taking it more cautious.

They need to involve CEH in the passing game more. He really looked good on the edges last night but they didn't use it a lot, running or passing.

I have to wonder if they weren't just trying to get out of there with a win and kind of shut things down.

Andy was a lot more conservative than usual. Maybe he didn't want to break out new plays until the Bills, put more on film? Which would be totally understandable.
Even with Romo calling the Hill and Mecole runs "trick plays", the WR coming across has been in the playbook and used frequently since Mahomes became starter. It's not new and its not a trick play/

DRM08 10-06-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15221961)
Yep. I think Pat was trying too hard to make a statement on the Patriots defense instead of just taking it more cautious.

They need to involve CEH in the passing game more. He really looked good on the edges last night but they didn't use it a lot, running or passing.

I have to wonder if they weren't just trying to get out of there with a win and kind of shut things down.

Playcalling felt pretty vanilla compared to Baltimore game. Still would like to see Mahomes grow more on the game manager aspect. This felt like a step backwards on that front. The checkdown throws are there and he needs to take them like he did in Houston game. Still only 25 years old with a lot of room for improvement.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-06-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15221961)
Yep. I think Pat was trying too hard to make a statement on the Patriots defense instead of just taking it more cautious.

They need to involve CEH in the passing game more. He really looked good on the edges last night but they didn't use it a lot, running or passing.

I have to wonder if they weren't just trying to get out of there with a win and kind of shut things down.

There’s a method to Andy’s madness, I do like to think. They had to know that 20 points would win the game entering last night.

I mean, it’s been obvious that we are running the ball better off the edges with Clyde and the jet sweeps, yet they seem to be rarely used. We kept running inside zone plays behind Wylie to the right last night and seemingly never behind Osemele to the left, which was odd to me too. Perhaps Andy is just wanting to get them a bunch of game reps to work on the blocking aspect, letting Clyde read those blocks too.

KChiefs1 10-06-2020 06:48 AM

My plan to stop the Chiefs:

Rush 2 & drop 9 into coverage. Chiefs have no answers. OL can’t block well enough to get a running game working.

Offense runs the ball on 1st & 2nd down. Throw a check down pass to a RB on any 3rd down. Use the whole play clock to eat up time. Keep the chains moving & the clock running.

Also it would help if the refs cooperated by not blowing a play dead when we sack the QB. & hold onto Mahomes interceptions he throws.

Win

htismaqe 10-06-2020 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15221975)
There’s a method to Andy’s madness, I do like to think. They had to know that 20 points would win the game entering last night.

I mean, it’s been obvious that we are running the ball better off the edges with Clyde and the jet sweeps, yet they seem to be rarely used. We kept running inside zone plays behind Wylie to the right last night and seemingly never behind Osemele to the left, which was odd to me too. Perhaps Andy is just wanting to get them a bunch of game reps to work on the blocking aspect, letting Clyde read those blocks too.

I'm sure he's also putting tendencies on tape for some of our upcoming opponents to see.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-06-2020 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15221974)
Playcalling felt pretty vanilla compared to Baltimore game. Still would like to see Mahomes grow more on the game manager front. This felt like a step backwards on that front. The checkdown throws are there and he needs to take them like he did in Houston game. Still only 25 years old with a lot of room for improvement.

One issue seemed to be that Watkins is a primary underneath option for him and Mahomes never gave him another chance after the fumble. I thought that was a mistake, Gilmore just made a spectacular play there.

Against Houston and Baltimore, Watkins for 7+ yards seemed automatic.

Frazod 10-06-2020 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15221947)
Maybe because it was the Patriots? It looked a bit like he was forcing it.

I agree with this. I think that first AFCCG still sticks in his craw a bit.

Also, remember the critical personal foul we got in that game for brushing Brady's helmet? Maybe Fox can run a story about that. 4321

htismaqe 10-06-2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15221974)
Playcalling felt pretty vanilla compared to Baltimore game. Still would like to see Mahomes grow more on the game manager aspect. This felt like a step backwards on that front. The checkdown throws are there and he needs to take them like he did in Houston game. Still only 25 years old with a lot of room for improvement.

Yep, like I said before, Pat seemed to be forcing it a bit. Looking for stuff that wasn't really there.

BigRedChief 10-06-2020 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15221978)
I'm sure he's also putting tendencies on tape for some of our upcoming opponents to see.

I think 2nd down draw play to CEH with Kelce on the sidelines has been run enough to achieve full "tendencies" level.

MahomesMagic 10-06-2020 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15221977)
My plan to stop the Chiefs:

Rush 2 & drop 9 into coverage. Chiefs have no answers. OL can’t block well enough to get a running game working.

Offense runs the ball on 1st & 2nd down. Throw a check down pass to a RB on any 3rd down. Use the whole play clock to eat up time. Keep the chains moving & the clock running.

Also it would help if the refs cooperated by not blowing a play dead when we sack the QB. & hold onto Mahomes interceptions he throws.

Win


It's nice that we can get by with random castoffs at guard, center, guard but it does show from time to time.

I thought we moved the ball well to start but we kept kicking FG's and then the Watkins fumble just kept us from getting to another gear.

Happy that the defense got to win one for us and that's fine. It's early in the year, we don't need to peak yet. Just keep winning.

Spott 10-06-2020 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Papi (Post 15221717)
Seen lots of Pats fans crying about the call on the defender taking Mahomes down out of bounds. Hilarious. Like the golden boy TB12 didn't draw all kinds of BS penalties. Pats fans are the worst.

Not to mention the NFL created a rule just to protect their golden boy after he was taken out on a clean hit by Bernard Pollard. I used to think donkey tears were delicious, but patsy tears are twice as good.

ping2000 10-06-2020 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 15221953)
link?

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/patri...atics-patriots

O.city 10-06-2020 07:24 AM

Pretty impressive really that Belicheck kept it that close all things considered. Players are such creatures of habit, this had to throw the whole thing out of whack for them.

I'm glad Chiefs came out with the win. I think the Pats end up being the team to come to KC for the AFC champ game.

crayzkirk 10-06-2020 07:51 AM

It looked like the Chiefs weren't really there mentally. They aren't robots and this isn't a video game. I have to believe the thought of Covid-19 was on their minds and a distraction.

As others have said, please get rid of the second down delayed handoff. It doesn't seem to work and even I can see it coming from halfway across the city.

Offensive line didn't protect well and the defensive line had trouble getting pressure. If they had put the first two possessions into the end zone to make it 14-3, I think the rest of the game would have played out very differently.

Mahomes did look like he was pressing; got lucky two passes weren't picked off.

A Defiant Goose 10-06-2020 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Papi (Post 15221717)
Seen lots of Pats fans crying about the call on the defender taking Mahomes down out of bounds. Hilarious. Like the golden boy TB12 didn't draw all kinds of BS penalties. Pats fans are the worst.

So you agree it was a BS penalty? lol


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