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dlphg9 09-11-2023 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17101608)
Where dis # coming from

It's not $7.6 mil each game. That's gotta be the total amount lost for missing 8 games.

wachashi 09-11-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17101613)
It's not $7.6 mil each game. That's gotta be the total amount lost for missing 8 games.

Yeah, my bad. It's $7.6 total for 7 weeks of missed games. Plus the $4 million on post-tax fines.

dlphg9 09-11-2023 12:01 PM

Well I've changed my stance and can say I hope we trade him for a 1st rounder or a WR.

Since Mahomes has taken over as starter whenever the D allows 30 or less points we are 67-9 (includes playoffs and Lions game . That's a 88% winning percentage! We'd have to have one of the like top 5 worst defenses of all time to regularly allow that many points. We will be fine without him and could use any draft picks we get for him to move up for a WR.

dlphg9 09-11-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17101628)
Yeah, my bad. It's $7.6 total for 7 weeks of missed games. Plus the $4 million on post-tax fines.

Yeah, not a problem.

ptlyon 09-11-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17101629)
Well I've changed my stance and can say I hope we trade him for a 1st rounder or a WR.

Since Mahomes has taken over as starter whenever the D allows 30 or less points we are 67-9 (includes playoffs and Lions game . That's a 88% winning percentage! We'd have to have one of the like top 5 worst defenses of all time to regularly allow that many points. We will be fine without him and could use any draft picks we get for him to move up for a WR.

That's nice and all, but our wide receivers appear to be broken with cj's absence. It's obvious we need to sign him immediately to avoid certain discourse of the season.

T-post Tom 09-11-2023 12:13 PM

I would rather have my girlfriend cheat on me than see Chris Jones betray the team and sit out like this. I’m a fan and an idiot. :banghead:

ThaVirus 09-11-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17101531)
Sounds promising

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs HC Andy Reid says there is contract communications between GM Brett Veach and DT Chris Jones. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fox4kc?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#fox4kc</a></p>&mdash; Rob Collins (@RobCollinsTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobCollinsTV/status/1701281384487121212?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I can already see myself being simultaneously annoyed and optimistic.

Having already lost week 1 due in large part to his holdout, if he still bends us over and rapes us, I’m going to be really ****ing pissed.

ptlyon 09-11-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17101667)
I would rather have my girlfriend cheat on me than see Chris Jones betray the team and sit out like this. I’m a fan and an idiot. :banghead:

What's her name?

KCJake 09-11-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17101544)
If I was Bart Reach, I'd say, Chris you sign this ****ing contract by the end of the day Tuesday, or we are just going to stop. You want to hold our 8 games. Fine. Its just going to cost you, and save me money. If you want permission to seek a trade have at it, just know I'll be on the phone too.

Complete agree. Hope it goes down exactly like this

arrwheader 09-11-2023 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17101590)
He's tallied close to $4 million in fines (post-tax), plus the potential $7.6 million up until his potential week 8 "mandatory" return. It seems very unlikely that he could come back in week 8 without a deal and be worth a damn.

What is the strategy at this point for Chris Jones and his agents? Are they trying to get him traded?

They have none, not in the best interest of their client. I honestly think it's criminal what they are doing like legit criminal. They are stealing money from him.

Jones never had leverage here he can only lose this way. He was already under contract. He will lose 12 million plus and will have gained nothing from it.

Chiefs aren't going to blink. Best case for him is he misses out on 12 million plus dollars not to mention any incentives. He plays 6 games this year and gets tagged and traded and signing a deal similaror likely less than the chiefs offered. Losing millions in the process.

Again criminally dumb decision. Sad deal really because he us destroying his image too.

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DRM08 09-11-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17101677)
I can already see myself being simultaneously annoyed and optimistic.

Having already lost week 1 due in large part to his holdout, if he still bends us over and rapes us, I’m going to be really ****ing pissed.

I think Kelce’s injury was a bigger factor in the loss.

FringeNC 09-11-2023 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17101531)
Sounds promising

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs HC Andy Reid says there is contract communications between GM Brett Veach and DT Chris Jones. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fox4kc?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#fox4kc</a></p>&mdash; Rob Collins (@RobCollinsTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobCollinsTV/status/1701281384487121212?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If Chris Jones signs an extension with us, I'll be shocked if it's much different from the offer he could have signed months ago.

TLO 09-11-2023 12:38 PM

As much as I've disliked the Chris Jones theatrics, the thought of him getting in game shape and joining what already looks like a nasty defense sounds sexy.

Rainbarrel 09-11-2023 12:38 PM

Perhaps a Sports book is backing this & his agents end up in prison
- I guess this is wrong

Strongside 09-11-2023 12:38 PM

I like Chris Jones. I think his representation has lead him astray with bad advice.

That said, after watching last week's performance by our defense against one of the league's better offensive units, this team has much bigger problems than Jones. Namely guys who can get open at WR. Some of this is scheme and guys not having much time on the field together to develop proper spacing, etc. Some of it is just derived from the fact that Veach and co. seem to be okay with a bargain bin WR corps and they're limited by their talent.

I would love to see CJ shipped for a player + picks package that would send a quality WR back to KC.


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