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SAUTO 02-18-2019 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14113132)
I like Watkins. Hopefully he can be healthy this year.

We agree

Easy 6 02-18-2019 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14112852)
Just think guys, with a modest improvement how awesome we can be. If our D gets just two more stops per game thats 32 more opportunities to score. Mahomy might just break 55 TD's and 5400 yards both NFL records.

Amen, brother... even marginal improvement would be SO big

And frankly, I'm expecting better than "marginal"... another draft, another free agency period, and of course this high powered new coaching staff should propel that unit to middle of the pack at worst

jjchieffan 02-18-2019 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14112852)
Just think guys, with a modest improvement how awesome we can be. If our D gets just two more stops per game thats 32 more opportunities to score. Mahomy might just break 55 TD's and 5400 yards both NFL records.

Maybe it works that way. But I don't know. If our defense can hold teams to around 20 points per game, I'm not sure that Andy Reid is having Patrick slinging it down field that much late. If the score is, say 28-15 in the beginning of the 4th quarter, Mahomes is probably just handing it off and throwing short stuff. Hell, Henne may even get a few snaps in.

Why Not? 02-18-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14113408)
Maybe it works that way. But I don't know. If our defense can hold teams to around 20 points per game, I'm not sure that Andy Reid is having Patrick slinging it down field that much late. If the score is, say 28-15 in the beginning of the 4th quarter, Mahomes is probably just handing it off and throwing short stuff. Hell, Henne may even get a few snaps in.

Not at that score differential with basically a whole quarter to play. 2 scores in the NFL can happen in a matter of minutes(see Chiefs v Chargers). 38-15, that’s another story.

htismaqe 02-18-2019 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 14113413)
Not at that score differential with basically a whole quarter to play. 2 scores in the NFL can happen in a matter of minutes(see Chiefs v Chargers). 38-15, that’s another story.

The games that really inflated Mahomes' totals were games like the Rams and Pats. Those are the games that will be fewer and farther between, which is why Mahomes will likely throw for fewer yards and TDs if the defense improves.

RealSNR 02-18-2019 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14113435)
The games that really inflated Mahomes' totals were games like the Rams and Pats. Those are the games that will be fewer and farther between, which is why Mahomes will likely throw for fewer yards and TDs if the defense improves.

You mean our QB's season yardage total may not break 5000 every year?

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tredadda 02-18-2019 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14112852)
Just think guys, with a modest improvement how awesome we can be. If our D gets just two more stops per game thats 32 more opportunities to score. Mahomy might just break 55 TD's and 5400 yards both NFL records.

No chance. The better our defense the less likely we get into shootouts where he has to fling 6 TDS a game. If he throws for 50 next year it means we made little to no improvement on defense.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-18-2019 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 14113523)
No chance. The better our defense the less likely we get into shootouts where he has to fling 6 TDS a game. If he throws for 50 next year it means we made little to no improvement on defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM-G0bkl8MQ

Bowser 02-18-2019 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14113448)
You mean our QB's season yardage total may not break 5000 every year?

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I'm not absolutely positive, but would anyone be surprised to learn that we didn't break 5,000 yards passing in two years with Brian Daboll's system?

htismaqe 02-18-2019 10:52 PM

Daboll was only the OC for 1 year. They threw for 2700 yards that season.

Bowser 02-18-2019 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14113545)
Daboll was only the OC for 1 year. They threw for 2700 yards that season.

So I was 47% right on all of that, lol. 2700 yards. Huh. Seems like a bad dream.


I thought Daboll was here for the Tyler Thigpen experiment, too. Those shit years just melt into each other....

mcaj22 02-19-2019 08:44 AM

put some respect on my avatar. those bucket hats dont gain yards themselves.

chiefzilla1501 02-19-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14113435)
The games that really inflated Mahomes' totals were games like the Rams and Pats. Those are the games that will be fewer and farther between, which is why Mahomes will likely throw for fewer yards and TDs if the defense improves.

When you look at the second half of the season, you also saw defenses better gameplan for mahomes and also refs put less emphasis on pass interference. mahomes adjusted his game accordingly. Still mvp level performances but not quite the constant fireworks we saw early in the season. When you look at his second half, seems reasonable that he'll hover maybe just below 4500 yards 40 TDs barring some kind of sophomore slump (which I don't think is likely... We have a good idea of his floor by now). Which is still damn good.

KChiefs1 02-19-2019 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14113435)
The games that really inflated Mahomes' totals were games like the Rams and Pats. Those are the games that will be fewer and farther between, which is why Mahomes will likely throw for fewer yards and TDs if the defense improves.



I see a lot more games like the Raiders & 49ers games. Chiefs get a big lead & then try & run the clock.

The Rams, Patriots & Steelers games were outliers. Take those games away & that should be Mahomes typical numbers next season.

St. Patty's Fire 02-19-2019 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14113769)
When you look at the second half of the season, you also saw defenses better gameplan for mahomes and also refs put less emphasis on pass interference. mahomes adjusted his game accordingly. Still mvp level performances but not quite the constant fireworks we saw early in the season. When you look at his second half, seems reasonable that he'll hover maybe just below 4500 yards 40 TDs barring some kind of sophomore slump (which I don't think is likely... We have a good idea of his floor by now). Which is still damn good.

First half: 26 TD
Second half: 24 TD


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