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OrtonsPiercedTaint 08-04-2013 11:45 AM

No Grigsby vs Scanlon wars. I hope Bray looks at Sanchez and finds a social mentor/tutor. Clark is not Lamar when it comes to spending.

Messier 08-04-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9857594)
no, he didnt.

If you couldn't see it, you don't have a clue what you're watching.

Sorry.


I have made a lot of posts about Smith doing well.

You must have ignored those.

Shit, I even said he is the best QB in camp... all things considered.

I swear, some of you should be forced to get vasectomies.

That actually makes some sense.

I even commented that his hand punch was either non exist ant at ties or was completely futile.

IMO, his biggest problems are his kick step and his weight transfer to protect the inside transition pass rush moves. He needs to play lower and use his hips/knees a lot more and hopefully that comes in time...like the next month worth of time.

Sorry, I was there yesterday. He held his own a number of times. I saw it. Don't know what to tell you.

BossChief 08-04-2013 11:53 AM

We're you sitting on the hill?

I was a third of the way up the hill and watched him get pushed around consistently. Maybe your POV wasn't very good...

It's not like I dislike the guy. I've said at least 10 times that I like the guy as a player and want him to succeed and have posted exactly what I see as I see it.

Shit, I have said multiple times that Stanzi has sucked ass out there and that Bray has been very good.

If I was posting with bias, that wouldn't be the case, would it.

Geez man, I say Alex throws a bunch of bad passes and you ask me some dumb shit like "what were they working on?" ...like Alex Smith throwing a shovel pass right to Houston was "something they were working on" or when he overthrew Wylie by 5 yards and Sean Smith intercepted it that was "something they were working on"

FFS it's not like I'm making these things up or that these things are gonna happen in games...it's that they have happened with regularity in practices.

Just like Fisher getting walked like a dog.

Hopefully, it's the hand being hurt and that it will heal in the next month or so.

Otherwise, the beginning of the year when we have a string of winnable games will be tough to watch.

Messier 08-04-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9857615)
We're you sitting on the hill?

I was in the tent, about fifty feet away.

Messier 08-04-2013 12:04 PM

I'm not saying he looked great. There were several time I went, yikes! That was bad.

BossChief 08-04-2013 12:07 PM

Every time someone went from a bullrush and transitioned to an inside move, he got beat.

Every time someone transitioned from an inside move to the outside, he had big time trouble adjusting and nearly every time he got beat.

He had big time trouble identifying the blitz.

He simply can't handle blocking Houston AT ALL.

Now, I understand "well, that's Justin Houston"... But this is the first pick in the draft for ****s sake.

Messier 08-04-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9857632)
Every time someone went from a bullrush and transitioned to an inside move, he got beat.

Every time someone transitioned from an inside move to the outside, he had big time trouble adjusting and nearly every time he got beat.

He had big time trouble identifying the blitz.

He simply can't handle blocking Houston AT ALL.

Now, I understand "well, that's Justin Houston"... But this is the first pick in the draft for ****s sake.

He's got to improve.

BossChief 08-04-2013 12:15 PM

No question and I hope this hand injury stuff is the majority of it.

Do you know what the deal with Stephenson? Someone told me he tweaked a hammy...is that what happened?

I was looking forward to seeing him out there competing.

Marcellus 08-04-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9857602)
Just like the common trr outlook...

Everybody, we shouldn't have expectations for any of our football players. Regardless of where they are picked or how they are acquired.

If that is what you took from TRR's post it is a perfect example of how delusional and irrational people here are anymore.

Not close to what he said or meant but you spun into a ridiculous bunch of bullshit trying to make a point that doesn't exist.

O.city 08-04-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9857655)
If that is what you took from TRR's post it is a perfect example of how delusional and irrational people here are anymore.

Not close to what he said or meant but you spun into a ridiculous bunch of bullshit trying to make a point that doesn't exist.

Get over yourself.


Fisher was the first overall pick in te draft. You don't take a player there that "needs time to learn".

The expectations for him should be extremely high and he needs to be really good right away. Otherwise, it was the wrong pick.

Marcellus 08-04-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9857670)
Get over yourself.


Fisher was the first overall pick in te draft. You don't take a player there that "needs time to learn".

The expectations for him should be extremely high and he needs to be really good right away. Otherwise, it was the wrong pick.


Get over myself? I'm not the one twisting shit around.

Fisher wasn't the "safe" pick and I yes would expect him to be effective right away.

Pissing and moaning week 1 of training camp is ****ing stupid.

And just because YOU believe it doesn't make it true.

Dorsey and Reid picked Fisher because of his upside, not his polish so think what YOU want, just keep in mind it doesn't matter what you think in the end and everyone doesn't need to share your opinion to be right.

Hammock Parties 08-04-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9857291)
Alex just threw a shovel pass right toHouston for the pick

Like, duh

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

This guy is going to be worse than Cassel in some ways. I have no doubts now.

Chiefs Pantalones 08-04-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9857650)
No question and I hope this hand injury stuff is the majority of it.

Do you know what the deal with Stephenson? Someone told me he tweaked a hammy...is that what happened?

I was looking forward to seeing him out there competing.

Finger surgery. He's back now but going at it slowly.

BossChief 08-04-2013 12:32 PM

Exactly, ocity.

Also, I've been extremely fair with my takes on Smith and everyone else on the team. I even said Smith looks like the best QB out there on more tan one occasion.

I have high expectations for this team and don't want tomhear the soft bullshit pussy responses of "oh give them a brak blah blah first week of camp blah blah blah he's just a rookie blah blah blah."

They decided that they would make moves with "win right now" in mind...we aren't rebuilding.

I expect players like Alex Smith and Eric Fisher to be worth the hefty price that was paid to add them.

We spent the first pick in the first and second rounds this year and a second rounder next year to get these "win right now" players.

**** the excuses.

Hammock Parties 08-04-2013 12:32 PM

Jesus CHRIST.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9857308)
Sean Smith just picked Alex in first play of 7on7 threw the ball from his own 5 yard line too.


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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9857309)
hartman almost picked Smith


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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9857316)
So far in 7 on 7, Alex has throw 8 passes and 3 or 4 of them could have been picked



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