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mr. tegu 09-13-2021 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15830820)
Ok, but you do realize that could very well be just outliers?


When teams are absolutely begging us to run I’m not going to get excited about 5 ypc unless it’s mixed in with multiple long ones being broken.

O.city 09-13-2021 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15830916)
RB just isn't one of those positions that takes 3 years to develop. They pretty much show what they got right away and that's that. We're not talking about a 5-tech DE, a NT, LT or a QB.

Which is why he's drawing the attention from fans that he is.

Yeah, especially ones taken in the first round.

Dante84 09-13-2021 02:52 PM

Andy spoke on it during today's presser (just caught it now).

He basically says it's a chemistry thing with the Oline and that he has full faith in Heck, Greg, and EB to iron it out with the line and CEH.

Starts at the 7:10 mark below (I set the video to begin there).

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Pitt Gorilla 09-13-2021 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15830916)
RB just isn't one of those positions that takes 3 years to develop. They pretty much show what they got right away and that's that. We're not talking about a 5-tech DE, a NT, LT or a QB.

Which is why he's drawing the attention from fans that he is.

Tell me you didn’t watch Priest Holmes play football without telling me you didn’t watch Priest Holmes play football.

smithandrew051 09-13-2021 02:56 PM

There is absolutely an argument to be made to draft a RB in the mid to late rounds every year. Keep fresh legs and trade them when they are about to get expensive.

Tribal Warfare 09-13-2021 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15830938)
Tell me you didn’t watch Priest Holmes play football without telling me you didn’t watch Priest Holmes play football.

Holmes' also ran behind arguably the greatest O-Line assembled

ToxSocks 09-13-2021 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15830938)
Tell me you didn’t watch Priest Holmes play football without telling me you didn’t watch Priest Holmes play football.

Priest Holmes was a 1,000 yard rusher for Baltimore before being replaced by...(his name escapes me). He was averaging 5.0 YPC before even joining the Chiefs, so save me that snarky bullshit.

KChiefs1 09-13-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15830921)
Yeah, especially ones taken in the first round.


That’s the main issue people are having with him.

Were Priest Holmes, Jamaal Charles or Kareem Hunt first round picks? No!

CEH should theoretically be better than all three.


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dirk digler 09-13-2021 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15830916)
RB just isn't one of those positions that takes 3 years to develop. They pretty much show what they got right away and that's that. We're not talking about a 5-tech DE, a NT, LT or a QB.

Which is why he's drawing the attention from fans that he is.

I was thinking the same thing then I went and looked at Derrick Henry and he had 490 yds his rookie year and 744 in year 2 then in year 3 finally went over 1k.

I am not that patient though for a RB :D

ToxSocks 09-13-2021 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15830973)
I was thinking the same thing then I went and looked at Derrick Henry and he had 490 yds his rookie year and 744 in year 2 then in year 3 finally went over 1k.

I am not that patient though for a RB :D

IIRC, because he was sharing time as a part time player. They were RB by committee.

Like Priest Holmes who served backup to Jamal Lewis. Priest was a 1K rusher before they drafted Lewis, then had part time stats after.

Or Charles serving behind Johnson. As soon as Charles got his chance though...it was obvious. He didn't need 3 seasons of running to break out. He broke out right away.

ToxSocks 09-13-2021 03:09 PM

How about Larry Johnson breaking out pretty much the moment he took over for Priest?

Eh, w/e.

Im rooting for CEH. Lets hope they figure it out and make us all look stupid for ever doubting. I would love nothing more than that.

dirk digler 09-13-2021 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15830985)
IIRC, because he was sharing time as a part time player. They were RB by committee.

Like Priest Holmes who served backup to Jamal Lewis. Priest was a 1K rusher before they drafted Lewis, then had part time stats after.

Or Charles serving behind Johnson. As soon as Charles got his chance though...it was obvious. He didn't need 3 seasons of running to break out. He broke out right away.

Ah yep you are right, he split time with DeMarco Murray..forgot about that guy.

ToxSocks 09-13-2021 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15830973)
I was thinking the same thing then I went and looked at Derrick Henry and he had 490 yds his rookie year and 744 in year 2 then in year 3 finally went over 1k.

I am not that patient though for a RB :D

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15830985)
IIRC, because he was sharing time as a part time player. They were RB by committee.

Chris Johnson. CJ2K.

Just looked it up. That's why Henry was limited early.

Pitt Gorilla 09-13-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15830964)
Priest Holmes was a 1,000 yard rusher for Baltimore before being replaced by...(his name escapes me). He was averaging 5.0 YPC before even joining the Chiefs, so save me that snarky bullshit.

In his first four years, he had one 1000 yard season. Even then, as you noted, it wasn't enough to keep his job.

If we're going to be fair, Clyde had around 800 yards last season in 13 games, averaging approximately (ypc) what Priest did in his "breakout" 1000 yards season.

ToxSocks 09-13-2021 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15831005)
Ah yep you are right, he split time with DeMarco Murray..forgot about that guy.

'09 Was the year CJ went 2K. They had LenDale White too.


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