Originally Posted by bobbything

I didn't read every single page of this, however, I got the Cliff's Notes. And maybe someone already mentioned this...

What I find ironic is that this guy is quoting copyright laws, yet there's no possible way, no way on earth, he got licensing from MU to use their logo on that shirt.

Originally Posted by DMAC

I hope a KU fan beats up Kyle Hudson.

Originally Posted by Spott

I hope a MU fan kicks his ass.

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

Bob,

He's actually right.

Using the image without permission is a violation of copyright. And he doesn't have to have a registered copyright with the Library of Congress to have the copyright. It falls under copyright as soon as it is created (whether electronically or put in a tangible form (paper, cloth, sculpture, film, whatever).

He could have put it better, but Irishjayhawk was wrong.

Posting his personal information is worse than wrong. It's abusing your position as mod.

Sorry to spoil the fun.

Not that you're going to listen to me anyway.

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Wow. How in the hell did I miss all this fun?


[QOUTE]Dear Moderators at Chiefsplanet.com,

It has come to my attention that a poster with the handle "irishjayhawk" has posted an image of a photograph taken by myself of a t-shirt depicting the burning of Lawrence, KS with the word “Scoreboard” under the photo on your message board entitled, "Doom Lounge" (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=174410). I have reserved all rights in the photo as the photographer.

As the poster neither asked for nor received permission to use the photo on your message board, I believe the poster has infringed my rights under 17 U.S.C. Section 101 et seq. and could be liable for statutory damages as high as $150,000 as set forth in Section 504(c)(2) therein.

I demand that you immediately cease the use of this photo and that you desist from this or any other infringement of my rights in the future. If I have not received an affirmative response from you by Friday, November 16, 2007 indicating that you have fully complied with these requirements, I shall take further action against you.

Very truly yours,
Kyle Hudson
2813 NW Kingsridge Dr
Blue Springs, MO 64015
[email protected]

Originally Posted by kstater

Maybe Bob Dole can add this picture to the Original Post.
I give my consent to use my picture.

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

Bob,

He's actually right.

Using the image without permission is a violation of copyright. And he doesn't have to have a registered copyright with the Library of Congress to have the copyright. It falls under copyright as soon as it is created (whether electronically or put in a tangible form (paper, cloth, sculpture, film, whatever).

He could have put it better, but Irishjayhawk was wrong.

Posting his personal information is worse than wrong. It's abusing your position as mod.

Sorry to spoil the fun.

Not that you're going to listen to me anyway.

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

Nope, although if they take his picture, they are supposed to get a release allowing them to use the picture. Or at least, they did when I was doing reporting (pictures of the players is considered fair use due to the fact that "they're performing for a paying audience" - pictures of the fans used to require a release since the paper was using their images to make money for itself. Otherwise they could be sued. Don't know how much that's followed these days, I don't keep up with journalism law since I don't work as a journalist these days.)

Copyright law is if you create it, you own it for life + 70 years (IIRC). Still, I think the initial post might have fallen under the "fair use" clause since it was originally posted for the purposes of review. It's the same way that newspapers, magazines and web sites can post "short excerpts" of novels and pictures of the cover. It, in effect is free advertising.

However, for example, if an author believes a web site has posted more than is necessary for review purposes (like say the first three chapters of their book - or the big reveal at the end of a thriller), they can (and should) approach the site and ask them to redact or remove the work. If they refuse, that's usually where lawyers make their money.

Now, could Kyle have approached the moderators in a better manner than coming out swinging the lawyer stick. Absolutely. It was a pretty clueless move when it could have been handled more amicably.

But, if he does own the copyright, (and unless someone has evidence stating otherwise, why would he open himself up for this if he didn't?), he has the right to ask for the photographs to be removed. And posting his personal information on a BB like this is pretty bush league in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Valiant

Uh-oh someone is selling these copyright infringement shirts...

http://www.cafepress.com/mu_scoreboard/

Originally Posted by SPchief

How did you miss this thread?

Originally Posted by T.B.A.

The latest entry to the Tshirt war.....